Ravi
Diamond Member
I can't wait til the Republicans have to explain to seniors that stop getting their social security checks that the government had to be shut down because the Democrats refused to discontinue medicare.
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i hope the government shuts down. if they aren't working they can't fuck anything else up.
I think the writing was on the wall when the Democrats actually referred to it as 'Kennedy's seat'. It was not 'Kennedy's seat', it is the seat of the people of Mass. Their own arrogance cost them that seat. And, fortunately, the people had a decent alternative in Scott Brown. I like Scott. Don't always agree with him but he votes as a representative of his constituents and that is a lesson for all our representatives. They should not vote party, they should vote in accordance with those who sent them to DC.
Keep in mind that the Republicans also dragged the Al Franken election out for months refusing to allow him to be seated. Super majority only lasted six months
Oh, give me a break. You're fine when the Dems pull a stunt and bitch like a two year old when the GOP do. Such partisan bullshit is pathetic.
We need to cut the spending. It's not our fault if you refuse to recognize this necessity. The Spending has to be cut if we are going to have long term viability as a nation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/opinion/06wed1.html?_r=1
If their goal was to reduce spending, they would have accepted the Democrats offer to cut $33 billion out of the budget for the next six months the same amount as Republican leaders had originally requested before Tea Party members forced them to double it earlier this year. As the president noted, that offer constitutes the largest cut to domestic discretionary spending in history.
The Tea Baggers are holding the GOP hostage. The GOP knows they will lose if there is a shut down, and yet the Baggers insist on just that. FRIGIN AMAZING!
Ok so this should be entertaining.....Why don't you tell us your thoughts on how the budget should be balanced or what steps you would take to curb the massive spending taking place.
We need to cut the spending. It's not our fault if you refuse to recognize this necessity. The Spending has to be cut if we are going to have long term viability as a nation.
I've yet to meet a single person that disagrees with the idea of cutting spending. The problem is no one agrees on how.
The Democrats refuse to touch Medicare and Medicaid. That's ridiculous as those programs have spending estimates that are growing out of control astronomically. On top of that, Medicare/Medicaid is about 20% of the budget. Cuts to that have to be part of the conversation.
However, on the other side of the coin the GOP absolutely refuses to talk about the Defense, which itself is around 18 to 20% of the budget at any given time. You can't have a serious conversation about balancing a budget and NOT be willing to put 20% of it on the table.
No one, absolutely no one, in politics is even willing to talk about Social Security, which itself is right at 20% or so of the budget. That's a shame, as that program could actually be saved and made solvent if people were willing to make a few sacrifices.
EVERYONE seems to think that discretionary spending is the thing to cut, but you're talking about amounts of money there that are literally chump change. It's like me presenting you a bill for $1,000.00 and you digging around in your couch for change.
Until Defense, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are on the table, we're wasting our time. It's just that easy.
The only part of this post that I disagree with is your statement that you've "yet to meet a single person that disagrees with the idea of cutting spending". Maybe you have not yet met a politician and lord knows I can't think of one that I have met fact to face except for a mayor of a local town here in my area.
The only part of this post that I disagree with is your statement that you've "yet to meet a single person that disagrees with the idea of cutting spending". Maybe you have not yet met a politician and lord knows I can't think of one that I have met fact to face except for a mayor of a local town here in my area.
I typically don't hang out with the politicians. I'm a happier person that way.
What I meant was, I interact with a lot of folks with differing political views between academia, family, and church. Some are hardcore liberal, and some are hardcore Conservative. None of the folks I've met are against cutting spending. I've yet to meet any two people that would cut in the same places. That's the real tragedy. We all agree there's a problem, but we can't iron out the details because we've forgotten how to actually compromise with each other.
The only part of this post that I disagree with is your statement that you've "yet to meet a single person that disagrees with the idea of cutting spending". Maybe you have not yet met a politician and lord knows I can't think of one that I have met fact to face except for a mayor of a local town here in my area.
I typically don't hang out with the politicians. I'm a happier person that way.
What I meant was, I interact with a lot of folks with differing political views between academia, family, and church. Some are hardcore liberal, and some are hardcore Conservative. None of the folks I've met are against cutting spending. I've yet to meet any two people that would cut in the same places. That's the real tragedy. We all agree there's a problem, but we can't iron out the details because we've forgotten how to actually compromise with each other.
CBO Can't Conceive of Anyway' Economy Can Continue Past 2037: Someone better figure something out pretty damn soon because its all coming apart.
My thoughts are to start with 30% removed from all budgets that means all budgets and then 3% each year there after. This isn't a game now isn't the time for finger pointing this nation is headed towards a Train wreak it may not recover from.
800%
The White House just announced that Social Security Checks will go out on time.
So the Leftwing Hyperbole is proven wrong yet again.
Why would we cut social security, medicare and medicade which provide a needed and necessary service to our nations people yet continue to fund defense, which seems more about turning a profit than providing real defense to our nation? Real Christians would such abhor a policy, denying the aged and/or infirm life supporting services and continuing to produce weapons designed to kill.
It might be understandable if the money spent on new, larger and more leathal means of killing were spent instead to protect our borders, our chemical plants, our water supply, our ports, our people.
Why haven't the members of Congress voted first to cut their salary and benefits? Isn't that a form of leadership? Why haven't supporters of war offered to pay for war (it's far easier to put a ribbon on ones bumber I suppose).
This entire debate is crap; it is a sad commentary on a nation which has lost its soul; avarice is a deady sin and seems to be the guiding force of the New Right.
CBO Can't Conceive of Anyway' Economy Can Continue Past 2037: Someone better figure something out pretty damn soon because its all coming apart.
My thoughts are to start with 30% removed from all budgets that means all budgets and then 3% each year there after. This isn't a game now isn't the time for finger pointing this nation is headed towards a Train wreak it may not recover from.
800%
CBO Can't Conceive of Anyway' Economy Can Continue Past 2037: Someone better figure something out pretty damn soon because its all coming apart.
My thoughts are to start with 30% removed from all budgets that means all budgets and then 3% each year there after. This isn't a game now isn't the time for finger pointing this nation is headed towards a Train wreak it may not recover from.
800%
My argument has always been you need to take the pie chart I gave, keep the part that involves interest on the debt, and reset all of it, ALL OF IT, to zero. Turn the debate on its head. Prioritize spending where it's important, and if you run out of money reconfiguring the budget, then that's it.
Past that, I think you need to have a line item payroll tax that represents a person's share of the federal debt. People would get motivated really quick to find a solution if they understood they personally are in debt up to their eyeballs thanks to the Feds.