Gov. Newsom signs Care Court bill into law to help unhoused community

[1srelluc]

Governor Gavin Newsom signed his Care Court proposal into law on Wednesday.

He's signed it at an event in Santa Clara County with other local leaders, families and service providers.

The goal is to help people off the streets and into the care they need.

It was approved by the Senate and Assembly in August.
The state says it gives those on the ground the ability to put those struggling into the system providing a court-ordered care plan.

Governor Newsom calls it new hope for thousands suffering from severe forms of mental health such as schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders.

It's meant to prevent more restrictive conservatorships or incarceration, and instead, stabilize and support this specific community.

Gov. Newsom signs Care Court bill into law to help unhoused community

The court-ordered care plans will last up to 24 months and will be managed by a care team.

It will provide everything from medications to housing plans.

But opponents say it infringes on people's rights.

Funny what happens when the "homeless" start camping in very wealthy people's front yards isn't it?

 

[White 6]

Governor Gavin Newsom signed his Care Court proposal into law on Wednesday.

He's signed it at an event in Santa Clara County with other local leaders, families and service providers.

The goal is to help people off the streets and into the care they need.

It was approved by the Senate and Assembly in August.
The state says it gives those on the ground the ability to put those struggling into the system providing a court-ordered care plan.

Governor Newsom calls it new hope for thousands suffering from severe forms of mental health such as schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders.

It's meant to prevent more restrictive conservatorships or incarceration, and instead, stabilize and support this specific community.

Gov. Newsom signs Care Court bill into law to help unhoused community

The court-ordered care plans will last up to 24 months and will be managed by a care team.

It will provide everything from medications to housing plans.

But opponents say it infringes on people's rights.

Funny what happens when the "homeless" start camping in very wealthy people's front yards isn't it?

Two comments.
Seems good that they are making some attempt at doing something whether it has long term positive effect or not.
and
I am glad it is over there, not over here.

 

[basquebromance]

Newsom's plan seeks to give hope to families of mentally ill, homeless Californians. Human Rights Watch oppose it

California governor OKs mental health courts for homeless

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a first-of-its kind law to expand the ways in which people with severe mental health disorders can tap into court-ordered treatment

abcnews.go.com

Open Letter to Governor Newsom in Opposition to CARE Court

The undersigned individuals and national organizations are collectively dedicated to promoting equity and justice for people with mental health disabilities, people experiencing homelessness, Black, Indigenous, Latinx, and other People of Color (BILPOC), and others who will be disparately...

www.hrw.org

 

[Meister]

California's state debt stands at about $777 billion, the highest in the country, dwarfing runner-up New York ($387 billion). According to State Budget Solutions, Sacramento has racked up close to $130 billion in outstanding debt, and it faces nearly $650 billion in unfunded liabilities for public employee pensions and other retirement benefits.

LA Times Says California Is "Debt-Free." Really? | Daniel Bier

Breaking news from bizarro world.

fee.org

Yeah, yeah, Ca. can afford anything.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Newsom's plan seeks to give hope to families of mentally ill, homeless Californians. Human Rights Watch oppose it

California governor OKs mental health courts for homeless

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a first-of-its kind law to expand the ways in which people with severe mental health disorders can tap into court-ordered treatment

abcnews.go.com

Open Letter to Governor Newsom in Opposition to CARE Court

The undersigned individuals and national organizations are collectively dedicated to promoting equity and justice for people with mental health disabilities, people experiencing homelessness, Black, Indigenous, Latinx, and other People of Color (BILPOC), and others who will be disparately...

www.hrw.org

My takeaway is supporting the bill by the Governor. Having worked with the Court System, Juvenile Social Services and school districts, the Health Dept. and especially the private sector the dollars spent haven't proved to be effective. The Governor is correct in signing this bill.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Hope is all he can offer.

 

[The Original Tree]

Newsom's plan seeks to give hope to families of mentally ill, homeless Californians. Human Rights Watch oppose it

California governor OKs mental health courts for homeless

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a first-of-its kind law to expand the ways in which people with severe mental health disorders can tap into court-ordered treatment

abcnews.go.com

Open Letter to Governor Newsom in Opposition to CARE Court

The undersigned individuals and national organizations are collectively dedicated to promoting equity and justice for people with mental health disabilities, people experiencing homelessness, Black, Indigenous, Latinx, and other People of Color (BILPOC), and others who will be disparately...

www.hrw.org

More money to dish out to his cronies while bilking the taypayer out of millions and using the homeless he created as a marketing tool for more theft in office and to line his and his friends pockets.

Why doesn't he simply house the sidewalk shitters in The Governor's Mansion?

 

[Rye Catcher]

California's state debt stands at about $777 billion, the highest in the country, dwarfing runner-up New York ($387 billion). According to State Budget Solutions, Sacramento has racked up close to $130 billion in outstanding debt, and it faces nearly $650 billion in unfunded liabilities for public employee pensions and other retirement benefits.

LA Times Says California Is "Debt-Free." Really? | Daniel Bier

Breaking news from bizarro world.

fee.org

Yeah, yeah, Ca. can afford anything.

The Money that will be spent in California will benefit a small but needy population; the people in Jackson, Mississippi cannot get clean water. The Money that passed to Mississippi for the needy were not spent for them, it built a new Volleyball Gym for Brett Favre's Daughter.

Look it up, Meister

 

[Meister]

The Money that will be spent in California will benefit a small but needy population; the people in Jackson, Mississippi cannot get clean water. The Money that passed to Mississippi for the needy were not spent for them, it built a new Volleyball Gym for Brett Favre's Daughter.

Look it up, Meister

Dude, you guys can't afford everything your spending money on.
Never does your state government cut back, they just keep getting further and
further in debt because they don't have the revenue, and are already top of
the class with taxes. That's socialism for you, Rye.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[Papageorgio]

Newsom's plan seeks to give hope to families of mentally ill, homeless Californians. Human Rights Watch oppose it

California governor OKs mental health courts for homeless

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a first-of-its kind law to expand the ways in which people with severe mental health disorders can tap into court-ordered treatment

abcnews.go.com

Open Letter to Governor Newsom in Opposition to CARE Court

The undersigned individuals and national organizations are collectively dedicated to promoting equity and justice for people with mental health disabilities, people experiencing homelessness, Black, Indigenous, Latinx, and other People of Color (BILPOC), and others who will be disparately...

www.hrw.org

To court order a person that has committed no crime to a court ordered care plan, seems intrusive. I understand the idea behind the plan and wanting to help the mentally ill, however intruding on peoples rights is a dangerous path.

The idea to help is good, taking away rights is not.

 

[Papageorgio]

My takeaway is supporting the bill by the Governor. Having worked with the Court System, Juvenile Social Services and school districts, the Health Dept. and especially the private sector the dollars spent haven't proved to be effective. The Governor is correct in signing this bill.

With all due respect, my concern is the court forcing involuntary medical treatment, that is a violation of a person's civil rights. The motivation maybe to help however, taking away a persons civil rights is not going to help.

 

[Rye Catcher]

With all due respect, my concern is the court forcing involuntary medical treatment, that is a violation of a person's civil rights. The motivation maybe to help however, taking away a persons civil rights is not going to help.

It is not forced by the court, if the court finds the defendant guilty he would be placed on probation and that would be a contract, ordering counseling. That happens all the time. If the defendant does not want probation, he would be sentenced to jail or prison. The same would be done if the probationer violates the contract, probation would be revoked and jail or prison would be the considered.

 

[Papageorgio]

It is not forced by the court, if the court finds the defendant guilty he would be placed on probation and that would be a contract, ordering counseling. That happens all the time. If the defendant does not want probation, he would be sentenced to jail or prison. The same would be done if the probationer violates the contract, probation would be revoked and jail or prison would be the considered.

Guilty of what? A mental disease? I think the ACLU, Human Rights Watch, Disability Rights California, and other mental health agencies are correct in it is violating the civil rights of the mentally ill. A person should not be threatened incarceration, probation, or court ordered for simply having a health issue. A person with physical ailments has the right to treat their illness or not or how to treat it. You are punishing a person because of a mental disability. I believe it is ethically wrong. My liberal side believes the law goes to far and I hope the courts will strike this down.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Guilty of what? A mental disease? I think the ACLU, Human Rights Watch, Disability Rights California, and other mental health agencies are correct in it is violating the civil rights of the mentally ill. A person should not be threatened incarceration, probation, or court ordered for simply having a health issue. A person with physical ailments has the right to treat their illness or not or how to treat it. You are punishing a person because of a mental disability. I believe it is ethically wrong. My liberal side believes the law goes to far and I hope the courts will strike this down.

When a mental disease is not treated, when the mentally ill burn the bridges of their family and society, it's time to intervene.

When the illness crosses the line to be a danger to themselves or others, the current 5150 W&I is insufficient.

When the Health Dept. and Social Service fail it's time for some to intervene, and that intervention will come into the Court System and the trier of facts may appoint a Conservative to manage the person.

Conservator and Conservatorship

Courts generally appoint a family member of a minor or an incapacitated individual to make decisions on their behalf. Gain more insights.

www.legalmatch.com

What is a Conservator?​

Under the law of most states, a conservator is a person a court appoints to care for a minor child or an individual who is mentally incapacitated by illness or accident. The authority that a conservator has over their conservatee is known as conservatorship.

Conservators are granted many different rights and responsibilities under the law. They can be extremely useful in situations where a person is not legally able to take care of themselves or make certain decisions for themselves. A conservatorship exists for the protection of the conservatee.

A conservator may be a conservator of the “estate,” that is, the person’s property, financial, and business affairs. Or a conservator may be a conservator of the “person,” where the conservator takes over supervision of the daily activities of the conservatee, such as health care and living arrangements. A conservator can be a conservator of both the estate and the person. If a conservatorship is for the person only, they will be called a “legal guardian” in most states.

A conservator only has legal authority over the aspects of a conservatee’s life that the court provides. For example, the conservator of an estate manages the conservatee’s property and financial affairs. They also make decisions regarding the conservatee’s assets.

The conservator may also have a full conservatorship. The conservator essentially has the same rights and responsibilities that a parent does over a child and makes the same decisions for the conservatee that a parent makes for a child.

​

A conservator may be a conservator of the “estate,” that is, the person’s property, financial, and business affairs. Or a conservator may be a conservator of the “person,” where the conservator takes over supervision of the daily activities of the conservatee, such as health care and living arrangements. A conservator can be a conservator of both the estate and the person. If a conservatorship is for the person only, they will be called a “legal guardian” in most states.

A conservator only has legal authority over the aspects of a conservatee’s life that the court provides. For example, the conservator of an estate manages the conservatee’s property and financial affairs. They also make decisions regarding the conservatee’s assets.

The conservator may also have a full conservatorship. The conservator essentially has the same rights and responsibilities that a parent does over a child and makes the same decisions for the conservatee that a parent makes for a child.

​

 

[TNHarley]

Good gawd, what a tyrannical bill. Has anyone read any of it? OMG
Almost all human atrocities have been done in the name of the good of the people. Think about that, you fascist fucks!

 

[greenerpastures]

I haven't read the whole thing yet but I don't like the part about forcing people ..

and then there is this: How is one defining "mental illness"??

I mean, when lefties control govt... they can and do call conservatives mentally ill so they can... well, just fill in the blanks..

Mental illness can mean just about anything.. highly subjective term

 

[greenerpastures]

Good gawd, what a tyrannical bill. Has anyone read any of it? OMG
Almost all human atrocities have been done in the name of the good of the people. Think about that, you fascist fucks!

just now read your post.. looks like, even though I haven't read the whole thing (OP) yet.. I was right on to write my last post.. Now I will try to read the whole thing but.. I should have known Newsom was up to no good...

 

[Papageorgio]

When a mental disease is not treated, when the mentally ill burn the bridges of their family and society, it's time to intervene.

When the illness crosses the line to be a danger to themselves or others, the current 5150 W&I is insufficient.

When the Health Dept. and Social Service fail it's time for some to intervene, and that intervention will come into the Court System and the trier of facts may appoint a Conservative to manage the person.

Conservator and Conservatorship

Courts generally appoint a family member of a minor or an incapacitated individual to make decisions on their behalf. Gain more insights.

www.legalmatch.com

What is a Conservator?​

Under the law of most states, a conservator is a person a court appoints to care for a minor child or an individual who is mentally incapacitated by illness or accident. The authority that a conservator has over their conservatee is known as conservatorship.

Conservators are granted many different rights and responsibilities under the law. They can be extremely useful in situations where a person is not legally able to take care of themselves or make certain decisions for themselves. A conservatorship exists for the protection of the conservatee.

A conservator may be a conservator of the “estate,” that is, the person’s property, financial, and business affairs. Or a conservator may be a conservator of the “person,” where the conservator takes over supervision of the daily activities of the conservatee, such as health care and living arrangements. A conservator can be a conservator of both the estate and the person. If a conservatorship is for the person only, they will be called a “legal guardian” in most states.

A conservator only has legal authority over the aspects of a conservatee’s life that the court provides. For example, the conservator of an estate manages the conservatee’s property and financial affairs. They also make decisions regarding the conservatee’s assets.

The conservator may also have a full conservatorship. The conservator essentially has the same rights and responsibilities that a parent does over a child and makes the same decisions for the conservatee that a parent makes for a child.

​

A conservator may be a conservator of the “estate,” that is, the person’s property, financial, and business affairs. Or a conservator may be a conservator of the “person,” where the conservator takes over supervision of the daily activities of the conservatee, such as health care and living arrangements. A conservator can be a conservator of both the estate and the person. If a conservatorship is for the person only, they will be called a “legal guardian” in most states.

A conservator only has legal authority over the aspects of a conservatee’s life that the court provides. For example, the conservator of an estate manages the conservatee’s property and financial affairs. They also make decisions regarding the conservatee’s assets.

The conservator may also have a full conservatorship. The conservator essentially has the same rights and responsibilities that a parent does over a child and makes the same decisions for the conservatee that a parent makes for a child.

​

So who is in charge of determining your mental health? Burn bridges? Many sane people burn bridges, I understand the need to help the mentally ill people, however they are still individuals with rights. If they have committed no crime, then we are violating a person‘s civil rights. I’m not seeing how the can pass Constitution and civil rights. Mentally ill people deserve the same rights as everyone else. We can’t single them out unless they commit a crime and mentally ill people are less likely to commit violent crimes than the general population.

 

[Natural Citizen]

California's state debt stands at about $777 billion, the highest in the country, dwarfing runner-up New York ($387 billion). According to State Budget Solutions, Sacramento has racked up close to $130 billion in outstanding debt, and it faces nearly $650 billion in unfunded liabilities for public employee pensions and other retirement benefits.

LA Times Says California Is "Debt-Free." Really? | Daniel Bier

Breaking news from bizarro world.

fee.org

Yeah, yeah, Ca. can afford anything.

When you subsidize poverty, you just get more of it.