GOP Defense Of Trump Already Crumbling: The Deputies Did It(?)!

[Billiejeens]

Not for nothing -

The State Department is in a world of hurt -
The world is not going to like what comes out of this.
It is malfeasance that one thinks only happens it movies.

But - we will have The Democratics to thank for it.

 

[bendog]

The worst defense of the now famous, "quid pro quo" phone-call is the focus on the "Whistle Blower." That mainly created the basis of further investigation of whatever was happening regarding Ukraine. The attack on the Whistle-Blower is that the information was actually third party. The further investigation now exposes just how much federal attention was happening: Just to create the smear of a political with misinformation--federally generated.

Third party information was available throughout the federal government, apparently.

So now the attack strategy is to discredit the people creating the apparently elaborate plot.

House GOP looks to protect Trump by raising doubts about motives of his deputies

If the entire federal government, Executive Branch, was in on it: Then it was that deeply motivated with the Executive Branch--creating the phone call request for the phone call: Apparently crafted and known in advance.

And the GOP had no choice but to take the bait, putting Trump on the hook: Easily to be reeled in.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
("L’état, c’est moi(?)!")

Huh? We have the transcript

You have the one Trumpy wants you to have.

And you have all the leaks Schiff wants you to have. Why not let the witnesses be cross examined and see if their stories hold up instead of taking their opening statements as gospel truth?

I'm saying all of your mental gymnastics about what witnesses say should be, and would be, irrelevant if Trumpy just said "oops, Rudi had a bad idea."

And once this circus gets to the Senate, that will be it.

But Trumpy appears to want to draw as much blood as he can from his own caucus, and the only folks lining up for his blood drive are second raters.

 

[bendog]

Not for nothing -

The State Department is in a world of hurt -
The world is not going to like what comes out of this.
It is malfeasance that one thinks only happens it movies.

But - we will have The Democratics to thank for it.

Oh yeah, the disintegration of the DoS is ALLLL about the dems. LOL

 

[BlindBoo]

So the House had no business investigating the foreign policy of the previous administration, lets say in Libya for example?

I agree with you - the House SHOULD investigate why the Nobel Peace Prize Winner pimped out the US military to Al Qaeda - who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01 - to help them murder a sovereign nation's leader, who was helping the Coalition fight terrorists in Northern Africa, and to help Al Qaeda take over Libya for their own!

Oh, I believe some of the nutters tried in vain to find something, anything (even stupid stuff like that) on President Obama.

You know Trumpybear flip-flopped again. How long before you start advocating against public hearings?

 

[Care4all]

Let the voters decide in 2020 please. No one believes anyone because the media and politicians have lost the trust of the people.

The people will get to decide in 2020....

Unless you think 20 Republican Senators will vote with democrats to remove him???

 

[Billy_Bob]

Let the voters decide in 2020 please. No one believes anyone because the media and politicians have lost the trust of the people.

The people will get to decide in 2020....

Unless you think 20 Republican Senators will vote with democrats to remove him???

Nope!

And you will lose all power in the federal government.. The house is gone.................

 

[BlindBoo]

Let the voters decide in 2020 please. No one believes anyone because the media and politicians have lost the trust of the people.

The people will get to decide in 2020....

Unless you think 20 Republican Senators will vote with democrats to remove him???

I think it will be up to the polls in the individual states after the public hearings.

 

[Kilroy2]

The whistle blower made a complaint or shined a spotlight on something. There still has to be collaborating proof

if there is no proof then the complaint will be dismissed

Thus the testimony of people who heard the discussion, the actual tape of the discussion. and even the transcript can support the complaint

focusing on the person who reported the issue while ignoring other evidence is a typical ploy of misdirection

Simple confession do make it easier but few people rarely confess thus the mountain of evidence comes into play

Trump does not deny what was said, his defense is that there was nothing wrong with what he said and he had every right to say it.

Still the tape is classified and if trump wanted this to go away then he would just release it as he can do that

He doesn't want to because he fears something

He wants to keep things in the dark and just trust him when he says something

If there is nothing then release the tape. How is a discussion between him and the Ukraine president classified

I am sure that the Ukraine president has his own tapes of the conversation

I guess classified information is only useful to the people who classify it while ignoring who else might have a copy of it







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[Billy_Bob]

Still the tape is classified and if trump wanted this to go away he would just release it as he can do that

He doesn't want to because he fears something

These are not taped, they are transcribed by two different people... Unless your doing something you should tell us about?

 

[mudwhistle]

The worst defense of the now famous, "quid pro quo" phone-call is the focus on the "Whistle Blower." That mainly created the basis of further investigation of whatever was happening regarding Ukraine. The attack on the Whistle-Blower is that the information was actually third party. The further investigation now exposes just how much federal attention was happening: Just to create the smear of a political with misinformation--federally generated.

Third party information was available throughout the federal government, apparently.

So now the attack strategy is to discredit the people creating the apparently elaborate plot.

House GOP looks to protect Trump by raising doubts about motives of his deputies

If the entire federal government, Executive Branch, was in on it: Then it was that deeply motivated with the Executive Branch--creating the phone call request for the phone call: Apparently crafted and known in advance.

And the GOP had no choice but to take the bait, putting Trump on the hook: Easily to be reeled in.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
("L’état, c’est moi(?)!")

Huh? We have the transcript

They dont need no stinking facts and transcripts... The FEELINGS of the left wits have been hurt and Trump must pay..

A Light Col working in The NSA sets foreign policy in the United States of a God Damned America...... not the President!!!

 

[easyt65]

Oh, I believe some of the nutters tried in vain to find something, anything (even stupid stuff like that) on President Obama.

President Obama was held in Contempt of Court at least two times for violating Federal Judge's Court Orders:

1) Illegal Implementation of Immigration Plan

Obama Admin Admits to Violating Judge’s Order to Halt Implementation of Immigration Plan

"In other words, despite having told Judge Hanen both in court and in written pleadings that no part of the president’s plan was being implemented until late February at the earliest, government officials were doing exactly the opposite."


2) Deep Water Drilling Ban:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?


The USSC found Obama in violation of the Constitution Multiple Times

1. JUST IN! Supreme Court Makes TERRIFYING Announcement - OBAMA FURIOUS

“The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that President Barack Obama violated the Constitution by maintaining former acting National Labor Relations Board General Counsel Lafe Solomon after the Senate refused to vote on his nomination.”

The Supreme Court ruled Solomon’s status as both acting and nominated general counsel for the majority of his three-year tenure violated the Federal Vacancies Reformed Act of 1998, which restrains the president’s appointment power. The FVRA prohibits an individual from serving as both the acting officer and permanent nominee of a position which requires Senate confirmation.

Chief Justice John Roberts ruled in the 6-2 decision that the appointment was an “end-run around” the Constitution."

2. Illegal Recess Appointments
Top 10 Ways Obama Violated The Constitution During His Presidency

"In 2014, Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the NLRB appointments were illegal, while last year the D.C. Circuit found the CFPB’s structure to be unconstitutional."


.....and that is just scratching the surface, lil' lying snowflake.


"...tried in vain to find something, anything on President Obama"

Why do you LIE, attempt to re-write history, and protect this proven criminal who violated both Constitution and Rule of Law, especially when your LIES are so EASILY debunked?!

Your lack of honesty and total lack of credibility is shockingly mind-numbing.

 

[Billiejeens]

Oh, I believe some of the nutters tried in vain to find something, anything (even stupid stuff like that) on President Obama.

President Obama was held in Contempt of Court at least two times for violating Federal Judge's Court Orders:

1) Illegal Implementation of Immigration Plan

Obama Admin Admits to Violating Judge’s Order to Halt Implementation of Immigration Plan

"In other words, despite having told Judge Hanen both in court and in written pleadings that no part of the president’s plan was being implemented until late February at the earliest, government officials were doing exactly the opposite."


2) Deep Water Drilling Ban:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?


The USSC found Obama in violation of the Constitution Multiple Times

1. JUST IN! Supreme Court Makes TERRIFYING Announcement - OBAMA FURIOUS

“The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that President Barack Obama violated the Constitution by maintaining former acting National Labor Relations Board General Counsel Lafe Solomon after the Senate refused to vote on his nomination.”

The Supreme Court ruled Solomon’s status as both acting and nominated general counsel for the majority of his three-year tenure violated the Federal Vacancies Reformed Act of 1998, which restrains the president’s appointment power. The FVRA prohibits an individual from serving as both the acting officer and permanent nominee of a position which requires Senate confirmation.

Chief Justice John Roberts ruled in the 6-2 decision that the appointment was an “end-run around” the Constitution."

2. Illegal Recess Appointments
Top 10 Ways Obama Violated The Constitution During His Presidency

"In 2014, Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the NLRB appointments were illegal, while last year the D.C. Circuit found the CFPB’s structure to be unconstitutional."


.....and that is just scratching the surface, lil' lying snowflake.


"...tried in vain to find something, anything on President Obama"

Why do you LIE, attempt to re-write history, and protect this proven criminal who violated both Constitution and Rule of Law, especially when your LIES are so EASILY debunked?!

Your lack of honesty and total lack of credibility is shockingly mind-numbing.

That can't be right
Resident Hussein was totally scandal free, with 100 percent approval from a grateful nation.

 

[mascale]

Referencing the specific Law Enforcement Assisstance abd Cooperation Treat, per poster easyt65, and others: Actually further crumbles the GOP Defense of "Banzai Surprise USA Attacker Trump:" in the matter of the phone call between the two national leaders, USA and Ukraine. (1) Treaty compliance requires the US Attorney General, and the Ukraine counterpart, to initiate the proceedings, and (2), in writing--or otherwise in writing within 10 days of any other methods.

"Banzai USA Attacker Trump" broke the law.

In the document, political requests are further not an enforceable basis of a request.

Talking voices underneath the mattress in the Lincoln Bedroom are not a basis of a request.

The similar treaty with Mexico starts, "The parties shall cooperate with each other by taking all appropriate measures they have legal authority to take. . . ." In the Ukraine version, the President has no authority, per Treaty approved.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
("L’état, c’est Attorney General(?)," not even!")

 

[BlindBoo]

Oh, I believe some of the nutters tried in vain to find something, anything (even stupid stuff like that) on President Obama.

President Obama was held in Contempt of Court at least two times for violating Federal Judge's Court Orders:

1) Illegal Implementation of Immigration Plan

Obama Admin Admits to Violating Judge’s Order to Halt Implementation of Immigration Plan

"In other words, despite having told Judge Hanen both in court and in written pleadings that no part of the president’s plan was being implemented until late February at the earliest, government officials were doing exactly the opposite."


2) Deep Water Drilling Ban:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?


The USSC found Obama in violation of the Constitution Multiple Times

1. JUST IN! Supreme Court Makes TERRIFYING Announcement - OBAMA FURIOUS

“The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that President Barack Obama violated the Constitution by maintaining former acting National Labor Relations Board General Counsel Lafe Solomon after the Senate refused to vote on his nomination.”

The Supreme Court ruled Solomon’s status as both acting and nominated general counsel for the majority of his three-year tenure violated the Federal Vacancies Reformed Act of 1998, which restrains the president’s appointment power. The FVRA prohibits an individual from serving as both the acting officer and permanent nominee of a position which requires Senate confirmation.

Chief Justice John Roberts ruled in the 6-2 decision that the appointment was an “end-run around” the Constitution."

2. Illegal Recess Appointments
Top 10 Ways Obama Violated The Constitution During His Presidency

"In 2014, Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the NLRB appointments were illegal, while last year the D.C. Circuit found the CFPB’s structure to be unconstitutional."


.....and that is just scratching the surface, lil' lying snowflake.


"...tried in vain to find something, anything on President Obama"

Why do you LIE, attempt to re-write history, and protect this proven criminal who violated both Constitution and Rule of Law, especially when your LIES are so EASILY debunked?!

Your lack of honesty and total lack of credibility is shockingly mind-numbing.

After all the Congressional investigations into his foreign policies, did they ever find any evidence of the stupid stuff you posted like "he pimped out the US military to Al Qaeda "?

 

[jc456]

The only allegation of a Coup D'Etat originates from Trump, re; The House Impeachment inquiry. That inquiry, however, originates in the Constitution as a protection of the government, and the people: From the behavior in the "Quid Pro Quo," phone call.

Trend Watch: Trump: 'It Is a Coup' - 10/2/2019 | Merriam-Webster

Witnesses corroborating the blatant Abuse of Power--called for in the House Rules as Constitutionally mandated in the matter of the inquiry--is apart from a sudden arrest and incarceration from within the Executive Branch itself.

And there is no apparent reference, anywhere on the internet, to an email chain from one or more fired Trump Administration appointed ambassadors--in their roles. Those are minutes of the Republican Executive branch,
apparently being enshrined as the New Trump Republican Party.

The matter of it operating via "Coup D'Etat" not even successfully deflect from the Elaborate Planned Abuse of Power.

If truth were told--apart from the Whistle-Blower: Anyone might conclude that the entire US Post Office was in on it(?)!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
("L’tribe, c’est moi(?)!"

actually it was in the lawyer of the whistleblower's tweet in Jan 2017. you missed that yesterday huh?

more ignorance. you guys are the champions of ignorant.

 

[easyt65]

After all the Congressional investigations into his foreign policies, did they ever find any evidence of the stupid stuff you posted like "he pimped out the US military to Al Qaeda "?

So you want to totally rush past the fact that you just got your lying lil' snowflake ass handed to you by my posting links proving Barry violated both the Constitution and Rule of Law...

...to throw out ANOTHER UNSUBSTANTIATED snowflake claim you have / present no link for?!

Bwuhahahahahaha!

The LAST time you did that....well, I kicked your ass!

 

[mascale]

The Trump Tweet of the coup is directly in the link of the post cited by Banzai, Surprise USA Attack, Supporter, jc456. The matter of "Surprise" even goes to the Cooperation Treaty no longer usable as a GOP Defense of Trump. Article 3.1.d requires adherence to formal procedure, and so not the surprise attack.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
("L’état, c’est putting-things-in-writing(?)!" See phone call transcript showing how challenging a problem that really is in the Trump Administration!)

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Let the voters decide in 2020 please. No one believes anyone because the media and politicians have lost the trust of the people.

The people will get to decide in 2020....

Unless you think 20 Republican Senators will vote with democrats to remove him???

They won’t remove him

 

[BlindBoo]

After all the Congressional investigations into his foreign policies, did they ever find any evidence of the stupid stuff you posted like "he pimped out the US military to Al Qaeda "?

So you want to totally rush past the fact that you just got your lying lil' snowflake ass handed to you by my posting links proving Barry violated both the Constitution and Rule of Law...

...to throw out ANOTHER UNSUBSTANTIATED snowflake claim you have / present no link for?!

Bwuhahahahahaha!

The LAST time you did that....well, I kicked your ass!

Since you butted into the conversation it's the least you could do is understand what you are responding to. The instances you brought up in your second response had nothing to do with the unitary foreign power the Trumpybear backers claim he has, or Congresses right to investigate a presidents foreign policy decisions. Furthermore you failed to answer whether or not in it's many investigations, if the House ever found any evidence of the bull shit you claimed? I take it by your deflection the answer is no.

 

[easyt65]

you failed to answer whether or not in it's many investigations, if the House ever found any evidence of the bull shit you claimed? I take it by your deflection the answer is no.

WHILE I POSTED MULTIPLE LINKS PROVIDING SUBSTANTIATING EVIDENCE, ONCE AGAIN YOU POSTED FALSE NARRATIVES CLAIMS / UNSUBSTANTIATED OPINION. YOU PROVIDED NO LINK - NOTHING TO DEBATE / DISCUSS EXCEPT YOUR DEBUNKED OPINIONS.