GOP Condidates schooled on how to talk about women

[Shrimpbox]

Oreo thanks for your post and especially identifying yourself and I so much agree with most of your points. Repubs need more women office holders and we did lose an untold number of voters because of those idiot senate candidates.

But in addressing the op I don't agree that their are loads of men who want their Viagra to be paid for but not women's birth control. Having sex is a choice so if you want to engage in it then you pay for the accoutrements that go with it, and that is consistent. Government should not pay for anything related to sex, other than info for education about the ramifications of engaging in sex, but that is for another thread.

What I don't get is why no one asks the question about why candidates need to have a women's issue communications seminar. Do we really want candidates at this level that need training. Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders? Are there not many men whose wives and daughters have educated them in the homes or who have learned by experience about the female psyche? It begs the question about what kind of candidates are being courted for public office, cause if you can't relate or understand half the electorate you will continue to not get elected.

 

[Dragonlady]

"do not say anything that the left can spin into an insult against women"

Like "binders of women"...

There was no mal intent, but the left opted to make it into something it wasn't.

You don't even understand why women were insulted by that story do you?

Mittens was saying that after 30 plus years in politics and business, he hasn't met one woman who was qualified to hold a top government position when he was elected Governor of Massachusetts. He had to ask his aides for the names of women he could consider for jobs on boards and committees. And they brought him binders with the resumees of qualified women. And he was astonished by how many qualified and capable women there were because he had no idea they existed.

You're right in that he intended no insult in telling this story and that is precisely why it's so insulting. That a man who aspired to the highest office in the land had no idea that there were this many smart, talented and capable women is grossly insulting.

And because you don't get why we're insulted, you're no smarter than Romney.

 

[JimH52]

Oreo thanks for your post and especially identifying yourself and I so much agree with most of your points. Repubs need more women office holders and we did lose an untold number of voters because of those idiot senate candidates.

But in addressing the op I don't agree that their are loads of men who want their Viagra to be paid for but not women's birth control. Having sex is a choice so if you want to engage in it then you pay for the accoutrements that go with it, and that is consistent. Government should not pay for anything related to sex, other than info for education about the ramifications of engaging in sex, but that is for another thread.

What I don't get is why no one asks the question about why candidates need to have a women's issue communications seminar. Do we really want candidates at this level that need training. Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders? Are there not many men whose wives and daughters have educated them in the homes or who have learned by experience about the female psyche? It begs the question about what kind of candidates are being courted for public office, cause if you can't relate or understand half the electorate you will continue to not get elected.

Excellent summary of the point of the Thread. There is something deeply and painfully wrong when a political party feels it must educate and tutor its candidates on principles that should be ingrained in their lifestyle and home life. It is very troubling.....

 

[Redfish]

"do not say anything that the left can spin into an insult against women"

Like "binders of women"...

There was no mal intent, but the left opted to make it into something it wasn't.

You don't even understand why women were insulted by that story do you?

Mittens was saying that after 30 plus years in politics and business, he hasn't met one woman who was qualified to hold a top government position when he was elected Governor of Massachusetts. He had to ask his aides for the names of women he could consider for jobs on boards and committees. And they brought him binders with the resumees of qualified women. And he was astonished by how many qualified and capable women there were because he had no idea they existed.

You're right in that he intended no insult in telling this story and that is precisely why it's so insulting. That a man who aspired to the highest office in the land had no idea that there were this many smart, talented and capable women is grossly insulting.

And because you don't get why we're insulted, you're no smarter than Romney.

Talk about taking something out of context! Your spin is totally wrong, your imagined insult is foolish.

What he was saying was that he has a long list of qualified women who he would plan to put in his administration.

Its really a shame that you were fooled by the lying dems and the lying media, because Romney would have been 1000 times better than the incompetent marxist that you and the media elected.

 

[Redfish]

Oreo thanks for your post and especially identifying yourself and I so much agree with most of your points. Repubs need more women office holders and we did lose an untold number of voters because of those idiot senate candidates.

But in addressing the op I don't agree that their are loads of men who want their Viagra to be paid for but not women's birth control. Having sex is a choice so if you want to engage in it then you pay for the accoutrements that go with it, and that is consistent. Government should not pay for anything related to sex, other than info for education about the ramifications of engaging in sex, but that is for another thread.

What I don't get is why no one asks the question about why candidates need to have a women's issue communications seminar. Do we really want candidates at this level that need training. Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders? Are there not many men whose wives and daughters have educated them in the homes or who have learned by experience about the female psyche? It begs the question about what kind of candidates are being courted for public office, cause if you can't relate or understand half the electorate you will continue to not get elected.

Excellent summary of the point of the Thread. There is something deeply and painfully wrong when a political party feels it must educate and tutor its candidates on principles that should be ingrained in their lifestyle and home life. It is very troubling.....

such a comment demonstrates the power of the media and their biased lies.

Half of the members of the republican party are women, are you saying that they are all stupid and uninformed?

as I said earlier, this is a ridiculous thread that was only created to prepetuate a lie.

 

[ClosedCaption]

So its ok to treat women like crap and nothing but a cheap hookup as long as your politics are progressive?

Monica was forced to suck a cock to completion?

Monica wasn't forced to do anything. It still makes Clinton a cheating womanizing sleaze, but he gets a pass because he is progressive, just like the Kennedys.

Hes a man with power thats what they do. Are you surprised by this? What does that have to do with the GOP's need for a Woman Communication Seminar anyway?

 

[ClosedCaption]

stupid thread-----half of the GOP is women.

Half of women don't vote Republican, or at least didn't in 2012.

Obama won females by 10%. In a general election, that's an ass-kicking.

Politically more important was that he won the swing states of OH, MI, PA, and WI by double digits with women. He almost got a double digit margin in Arizona as well. With Secretary Clinton being the odds on favorite for the nominee, the die may already be cast for 2016.

I saw an interesting piece, I think in the Atlantic, about John Kasich and his organization. He is the governor of Ohio and would almost certainly put OH in the GOP column (although it should be remembered that Mitt lost both of his home states by wide margins so nothing is for sure about winning one's home state). Here's the thing; he has been one of the most aggressive governors in suspending ROE at a state level.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7cJIiFAp4]How The New Ohio Budget Affects Your Vagina - YouTube[/ame]

It may be a referendum on the feeling of the nation.

OMG that video is full of WIN

 

[martybegan]

Monica was forced to suck a cock to completion?

Monica wasn't forced to do anything. It still makes Clinton a cheating womanizing sleaze, but he gets a pass because he is progressive, just like the Kennedys.

Hes a man with power thats what they do. Are you surprised by this? What does that have to do with the GOP's need for a Woman Communication Seminar anyway?

It has to do with your hypocrisy of ripping into republicans when it comes to communicating with women when as long as a progressives politics are OK and he acts OK in public he can be the biggest sleazeball on the planet.

 

[Redfish]

Monica wasn't forced to do anything. It still makes Clinton a cheating womanizing sleaze, but he gets a pass because he is progressive, just like the Kennedys.

Hes a man with power thats what they do. Are you surprised by this? What does that have to do with the GOP's need for a Woman Communication Seminar anyway?

It has to do with your hypocrisy of ripping into republicans when it comes to communicating with women when as long as a progressives politics are OK and he acts OK in public he can be the biggest sleazeball on the planet.

If any corporate CEO had done what Clinton did, he would have been fired the next day. Or, for that matter, a McDonalds manager, a convenience store manager, or a retail store manager. OR a republican president.

Clinton got a pass from the media, his "wife", and liberals everywhere. its called hypocrisy.

 

[JimH52]

Oreo thanks for your post and especially identifying yourself and I so much agree with most of your points. Repubs need more women office holders and we did lose an untold number of voters because of those idiot senate candidates.

But in addressing the op I don't agree that their are loads of men who want their Viagra to be paid for but not women's birth control. Having sex is a choice so if you want to engage in it then you pay for the accoutrements that go with it, and that is consistent. Government should not pay for anything related to sex, other than info for education about the ramifications of engaging in sex, but that is for another thread.

What I don't get is why no one asks the question about why candidates need to have a women's issue communications seminar. Do we really want candidates at this level that need training. Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders? Are there not many men whose wives and daughters have educated them in the homes or who have learned by experience about the female psyche? It begs the question about what kind of candidates are being courted for public office, cause if you can't relate or understand half the electorate you will continue to not get elected.

Excellent summary of the point of the Thread. There is something deeply and painfully wrong when a political party feels it must educate and tutor its candidates on principles that should be ingrained in their lifestyle and home life. It is very troubling.....

such a comment demonstrates the power of the media and their biased lies.

Half of the members of the republican party are women, are you saying that they are all stupid and uninformed?

as I said earlier, this is a ridiculous thread that was only created to prepetuate a lie.

What lie? Really? It is just a news story.....I can't help if it illustrates the GOP's 19th century mentality. Not My Problem!

 

[Dragonlady]

You don't even understand why women were insulted by that story do you?

Mittens was saying that after 30 plus years in politics and business, he hasn't met one woman who was qualified to hold a top government position when he was elected Governor of Massachusetts. He had to ask his aides for the names of women he could consider for jobs on boards and committees. And they brought him binders with the resumees of qualified women. And he was astonished by how many qualified and capable women there were because he had no idea they existed.

You're right in that he intended no insult in telling this story and that is precisely why it's so insulting. That a man who aspired to the highest office in the land had no idea that there were this many smart, talented and capable women is grossly insulting.

And because you don't get why we're insulted, you're no smarter than Romney.

Talk about taking something out of context! Your spin is totally wrong, your imagined insult is foolish.

What he was saying was that he has a long list of qualified women who he would plan to put in his administration.

Its really a shame that you were fooled by the lying dems and the lying media, because Romney would have been 1000 times better than the incompetent marxist that you and the media elected.

Why do you assume that I needed to have Mitten's comment filtered through the media to feel insulted? I watched the debate and was appalled by what he said. My comment was "He didn't know a single qualified woman???? Doesn't he have women on his staff?".

What was important to his secretary was to leave work early enough to get home and make dinner for her family. This is not a man who thinks of women as his equal.

Mitten's comments were condescending and utterly out of touch. Your notion that I need the media to tell me when I've been insulted says that not only are women stupid, they're easily lead.

Quit while you're behind.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Monica wasn't forced to do anything. It still makes Clinton a cheating womanizing sleaze, but he gets a pass because he is progressive, just like the Kennedys.

Hes a man with power thats what they do. Are you surprised by this? What does that have to do with the GOP's need for a Woman Communication Seminar anyway?

It has to do with your hypocrisy of ripping into republicans when it comes to communicating with women when as long as a progressives politics are OK and he acts OK in public he can be the biggest sleazeball on the planet.

I'm not ripping into them I feel sorry for their need to hold a seminar on how to talk to women. Clinton getting his knob slobbed has nothing to do with it.

Why do you keep referring to fucking a chick as being a sleazeball sister?

 

[candycorn]

Half of women don't vote Republican, or at least didn't in 2012.

Obama won females by 10%. In a general election, that's an ass-kicking.

Politically more important was that he won the swing states of OH, MI, PA, and WI by double digits with women. He almost got a double digit margin in Arizona as well. With Secretary Clinton being the odds on favorite for the nominee, the die may already be cast for 2016.

I saw an interesting piece, I think in the Atlantic, about John Kasich and his organization. He is the governor of Ohio and would almost certainly put OH in the GOP column (although it should be remembered that Mitt lost both of his home states by wide margins so nothing is for sure about winning one's home state). Here's the thing; he has been one of the most aggressive governors in suspending ROE at a state level.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7cJIiFAp4]How The New Ohio Budget Affects Your Vagina - YouTube[/ame]

It may be a referendum on the feeling of the nation.

OMG that video is full of WIN

Glad you liked it; they could have casted a closer look-alike to the Governor though.

 

[candycorn]

Strange how whenever you compare Obama's record to that of his predecessor, the republicans here go ape-shit-crazy insisting that since Bush is no longer in office, his actions should be expunged from the debate. Yet they seem pretty eager to bring up the sexists actions of a President who was out of office in 2001 and draw some sort of connecting thread to the upcoming election which isn't even involving Presidential politics.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Strange how whenever you compare Obama's record to that of his predecessor, the republicans here go ape-shit-crazy insisting that since Bush is no longer in office, his actions should be expunged from the debate. Yet they seem pretty eager to bring up the sexists actions of a President who was out of office in 2001 and draw some sort of connecting thread to the upcoming election which isn't even involving Presidential politics.

Republicans suffer from Integrity Amnesia

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders?

Not in the GOP, no.

 

[martybegan]

Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders?

Not in the GOP, no.

 

[bodecea]

stupid thread-----half of the GOP is women.

Phyllis Schafly is a woman.....we think.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Ok ladies let's get some of the facts straight. I am reminded of the story of the man who was encouraged to be honest in his relationship and thenasked by his lady whether she looked fat in that dress. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.

41 per cent of families have a women as the main or top breadwinner

In the world of venture capitalism in which Romney lived there are only three women on the Midas list out of a hundred. So he wasn't exactly surrounded by the fair sex in his business dealing.
Romney cabinet?s women representation better than today?s leading Democratic governors « Hot Air

If you all would read this story you would find that romneys record of including women in his administration is exemplary, much better than obamas, which brings me to another point that puts such a lie to this war on women( a much better case can be made for a war on men) foolishness. The only thing that made folder gate stick was the democrats creation of it, followed by romneys failure to aggressively push back on it. Here you have a repub actively pursuing more women and instead of being praised for it he is castigated as being a dolt. In an ironic way conservatives need more and less testosterone. Any repub candidate is going to have to learn to hit back hard like you would do with any bully.
While many of romneys non votes by women can be attributed to others in the party, a whole bunch of non votes can be traced back to his decision to not be confrontational. Manners and courtesy are considered weaknesses to be exploited by dems, and the women's issue debate highlights this problem.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Can we not find men who are comfortable and smart enough on women's issues to turn them loose without leashes or minders?

Not in the GOP, no.

Calm down sister. Clinton likes the women. I'm sure your boyfriend can relate