Goodbye CDC, Goodbye Country

[gipper]

You literally posted the quote where Kennedy said “there are no vaccines that are safe and effective”. How did you overlook that?

You also didn’t seem to notice he was making crazy claims about the polio vaccine causing widespread cancer. That’s also a huge lie.

RFK Jr can’t seem to speak for more than a few minutes without saying something stupid.

He’s right. Most have never been thoroughly tested. Many have considerable side effects. So, they aren’t completely safe.

Do you know the definition of safe?

Why didn’t you learn this at big pharma school?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He’s anti-untested vaccines.

Stupid lie.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He’s right. Most have never been thoroughly tested

Another lie

 

[MisterBeale]

You literally posted the quote where Kennedy said “there are no vaccines that are safe and effective”. How did you overlook that?

If you read it in the context of the interviews, it means, NO VACCINE IS ENTIRELY SAFE NOR ENTIRELY EFFECTIVE.

What is most important here, is the cost/benefit analysis, which the stooges of BIG PHARMA don't give to shits about.

 

[MisterBeale]

He’s right. Most have never been thoroughly tested. Many have considerable side effects. So, they aren’t completely safe.

Do you know the definition of safe?

Why didn’t you learn this at big pharma school?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you read it in the context of the interviews, it means, NO VACCINE IS ENTIRELY SAFE NOR ENTIRELY EFFECTIVE.

What is most important here, is the cost/benefit analysis, which the stooges of BIG PHARMA don't give to shits about.

That is of course exactly NOT what vaccination programs should be about. Only benefits.

 

[Marener]

If you read it in the context of the interviews, it means, NO VACCINE IS ENTIRELY SAFE NOR ENTIRELY EFFECTIVE.

What is most important here, is the cost/benefit analysis, which the stooges of BIG PHARMA don't give to shits about.

Sorry, but you don’t get to just change his words and then pretend he didn’t lie. That’s really dishonest.

Costs and benefits analysis is a part of all medical decision. The difference is they don’t invent costs. RFK Jr thinks the polio vaccine was effective but he also thinks it caused all kinds of cancer, which is just something he made up.

Of course RFK Jr doesn’t give two shits about being accurate. He just gets to say whatever he wants.

 

[MisterBeale]

That is of course exactly NOT what vaccination programs should be about. Only benefits.

. . . and now you know why RFKjr. is in the position he is in, b/c he cares more about the children of Americans than the authoritarian government or the profits of the big corporations.

 

[MisterBeale]

Sorry, but you don’t get to just change his words and then pretend he didn’t lie. That’s really dishonest.

Costs and benefits analysis is a part of all medical decision. The difference is they don’t invent costs. RFK Jr thinks the polio vaccine was effective but he also thinks it caused all kinds of cancer, which is just something he made up.

Of course RFK Jr doesn’t give two shits about being accurate. He just gets to say whatever he wants.

I'm not changing anything, it is YOU who are changing the meaning and intent.

I'm reading the statements in their context, you are not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

. . . and now you know why RFKjr. is in the position he is in, b/c he cares more about the children of Americans than the authoritarian government or the profits of the big corporations.

No, he is in that position because we are a country of morons and liars. Look how freely you lie to cover for him.

 

[MisterBeale]

No, he is in that position because we are a country of morons and liars. Look how freely you lie to cover for him.

Always with the fallacies.

 

[Marener]

I'm not changing anything, it is YOU who are changing the meaning and intent.

I'm reading the statements in their context, you are not.

The link included the exact words. I didn’t change anything. You’re inventing meaning and intent because it’s convenient. He never said what you claimed. You invented it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Always with the fallacies.

You clearly don't know what that word means.

 

[Marener]

Most have never been thoroughly tested

There’s no amount of testing that would ever satisfy you.

 

[MisterBeale]

The link included the exact words. I didn’t change anything. You’re inventing meaning and intent because it’s convenient. He never said what you claimed. You invented it.

. . and he clearly meant they are not entirely safe or entirely effective.

You are just too stoopid to understand context.

 

[Marener]

. . and he clearly meant they are not entirely safe or entirely effective.

You are just too stoopid to understand context.

He didn’t say it, so you’re just speculating.

In the context you provided, he described the polio vaccine as effective and highly dangerous. In fact he’s cooperating with a lawsuit to take it off the market. Your own context doesn’t support your allegation.

And you’re resorting to personal insults because I don’t accept your fabrication.

Can you provide any statement from him where he says a vaccine is safe and effective?

 

[MisterBeale]

There’s no amount of testing that would ever satisfy you.

We've had plenty of drugs that have been thoroughly tested. Those drugs do not require a government guarantee of immunity from harm prosecution like vaccines have.

https://www.dispartilaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/us-vaccine-injury-act.pdf

"The US Congress passed the National Vaccine Injury Act (NVIA) of 1986, which granted immunity to the pharmaceutical companies for injuries caused by the vaccines they manufactured.

As explained by the U.S. Supreme Court in Bruesewitz v. Wyeth 1, the reason for that protection is that Congress deemed vaccines to be unavoidably unsafe, 2 thus no manufacturer would make a vaccine if they had to suffer the liability for injuries they would unavoidably cause. 3 . . "

Big Pharma’s Financial Incentive to Make Their Vaccines Injurious | Principia Scientific, Intl.

Congress passed the National Vaccine Injury Act (NVIA) of 1986, which granted immunity to the pharmaceutical companies for injuries caused by the vaccines they manufactured.

principia-scientific.com

 

[MisterBeale]

He didn’t say it, so you’re just speculating.

In the context you provided, he described the polio vaccine as effective and highly dangerous. In fact he’s cooperating with a lawsuit to take it off the market. Your own context doesn’t support your allegation.

And you’re resorting to personal insults because I don’t accept your fabrication.

Can you provide any statement from him where he says a vaccine is safe and effective?

I'm not going to provide a statement where he claims they are "safe and effective," because intelligent folks know it is far more nuanced than that.

 

[gipper]

There’s no amount of testing that would ever satisfy you.

No no no. You think if 1out of 10 dies, so be it. We need to make big money.

 

[Marener]

No no no. You think if 1out of 10 dies, so be it. We need to make big money.

Physicians wouldn’t prescribe a drug where 1 out of 10 dies. They don’t get paid for prescribing anything. They get paid for taking care of patients.