Goodbye Bernie Sanders

[HenryBHough]

Sanders is perfectly positioned to DICTATE the Democrat Party's platform!

All he has to tell 'em is "Capitulate or I run a write-in campaign".

Then sit back and watch 'em roll over and play dead.

 

[bendog]

Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

Personally, I'm retired and could live w/o S.S.. (it just provides me beer money, anyways). But I think of my fellow American brethren who have worked as hard as I have, even tho' not smarter; and depend on it as their main income source.

The only way I'd agree to getting rid of S.S., would be to simultaneously getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and EBT (food stamps). If done, than let the unraveling of the U.S.S.A begin! (The third S truly stand for socialism.....).

Soc Sec is not actually saving for retirement, and it was never intended to be that. It is a lifeline for some, but overall it has the effect, like Medicare, of being a built in stimulus in recession. The only question is can they be made solvent, and the answer is yes, if the current gop would get the fock out of the way.

 

[B. Kidd]

Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

Personally, I'm retired and could live w/o S.S.. (it just provides me beer money, anyways). But I think of my fellow American brethren who have worked as hard as I have, even tho' not smarter; and depend on it as their main income source.

The only way I'd agree to getting rid of S.S., would be to simultaneously getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and EBT (food stamps). If done, than let the unraveling of the U.S.S.A begin! (The third S truly stand for socialism.....).

Soc Sec is not actually saving for retirement, and it was never intended to be that. It is a lifeline for some, but overall it has the effect, like Medicare, of being a built in stimulus in recession. The only question is can they be made solvent, and the answer is yes, if the current gop would get the fock out of the way.

In a short-term sense, you're half-right. We printed mo' money to bail the banks out, so why not with S.S.? But solvency related to both, is in some galaxy, far, far away...........(as the debt approaches 20 trill.).

 

[bendog]

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Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

Personally, I'm retired and could live w/o S.S.. (it just provides me beer money, anyways). But I think of my fellow American brethren who have worked as hard as I have, even tho' not smarter; and depend on it as their main income source.

The only way I'd agree to getting rid of S.S., would be to simultaneously getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and EBT (food stamps). If done, than let the unraveling of the U.S.S.A begin! (The third S truly stand for socialism.....).

Soc Sec is not actually saving for retirement, and it was never intended to be that. It is a lifeline for some, but overall it has the effect, like Medicare, of being a built in stimulus in recession. The only question is can they be made solvent, and the answer is yes, if the current gop would get the fock out of the way.

In a short-term sense, you're half-right. We printed mo' money to bail the banks out, so why not with S.S.? But solvency related to both, is in some galaxy, far, far away...........(as the debt approaches 20 trill.).

The money we bailed the banks out with actually got paid back. Not with real dollars, but the bailout wasn't with real dollars. The Treasury put more money in circulation, and when the banks gave back stock it was more or less a wash. G5000 will happily (-: discuss the money supply issue of QE and the fed. It is a potential danger. Perhaps more so because of the persistent high dollar. Trump is sorta right that if the dollar is worth less, we pay off debt sold when the debt was higher. But more importantly, if the dollar falls, foreign goods are more expensive, so people won't buy as much, so inflation may not be that much of a problem for the US. It wouldn't help Germany's deflation, but fouck em, we've been paying for their defense any buying cars for 65 years. And our consumers could buy US goods with weaker dollars.

Deficits for soc sec require us to issue more debt. Getting rid of the cap on payroll taxes would make soc sec solvent in one day. I'm not for privatizing medicare, bit I'm not going to say having all you can use healthcare for people retired with 100K incomes makes much sense.

 

[B. Kidd]

d

Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

Personally, I'm retired and could live w/o S.S.. (it just provides me beer money, anyways). But I think of my fellow American brethren who have worked as hard as I have, even tho' not smarter; and depend on it as their main income source.

The only way I'd agree to getting rid of S.S., would be to simultaneously getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and EBT (food stamps). If done, than let the unraveling of the U.S.S.A begin! (The third S truly stand for socialism.....).

Soc Sec is not actually saving for retirement, and it was never intended to be that. It is a lifeline for some, but overall it has the effect, like Medicare, of being a built in stimulus in recession. The only question is can they be made solvent, and the answer is yes, if the current gop would get the fock out of the way.

In a short-term sense, you're half-right. We printed mo' money to bail the banks out, so why not with S.S.? But solvency related to both, is in some galaxy, far, far away...........(as the debt approaches 20 trill.).

The money we bailed the banks out with actually got paid back. Not with real dollars, but the bailout wasn't with real dollars. The Treasury put more money in circulation, and when the banks gave back stock it was more or less a wash. G5000 will happily (-: discuss the money supply issue of QE and the fed. It is a potential danger. Perhaps more so because of the persistent high dollar. Trump is sorta right that if the dollar is worth less, we pay off debt sold when the debt was higher. But more importantly, if the dollar falls, foreign goods are more expensive, so people won't buy as much, so inflation may not be that much of a problem for the US. It wouldn't help Germany's deflation, but fouck em, we've been paying for their defense any buying cars for 65 years. And our consumers could buy US goods with weaker dollars.

Deficits for soc sec require us to issue more debt. Getting rid of the cap on payroll taxes would make soc sec solvent in one day. I'm not for privatizing medicare, bit I'm not going to say having all you can use healthcare for people retired with 100K incomes makes much sense.

Your mistake was believing G5000s' bullshit.
Those monies paid back were mostly due to the loans, originally! (and a continuing Ponzi scheme).

Here, get up to snuff about the 'myth of paybacks'...........


Secrets and Lies of the Bailout

 

[bendog]

d

Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

Personally, I'm retired and could live w/o S.S.. (it just provides me beer money, anyways). But I think of my fellow American brethren who have worked as hard as I have, even tho' not smarter; and depend on it as their main income source.

The only way I'd agree to getting rid of S.S., would be to simultaneously getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and EBT (food stamps). If done, than let the unraveling of the U.S.S.A begin! (The third S truly stand for socialism.....).

Soc Sec is not actually saving for retirement, and it was never intended to be that. It is a lifeline for some, but overall it has the effect, like Medicare, of being a built in stimulus in recession. The only question is can they be made solvent, and the answer is yes, if the current gop would get the fock out of the way.

In a short-term sense, you're half-right. We printed mo' money to bail the banks out, so why not with S.S.? But solvency related to both, is in some galaxy, far, far away...........(as the debt approaches 20 trill.).

The money we bailed the banks out with actually got paid back. Not with real dollars, but the bailout wasn't with real dollars. The Treasury put more money in circulation, and when the banks gave back stock it was more or less a wash. G5000 will happily (-: discuss the money supply issue of QE and the fed. It is a potential danger. Perhaps more so because of the persistent high dollar. Trump is sorta right that if the dollar is worth less, we pay off debt sold when the debt was higher. But more importantly, if the dollar falls, foreign goods are more expensive, so people won't buy as much, so inflation may not be that much of a problem for the US. It wouldn't help Germany's deflation, but fouck em, we've been paying for their defense any buying cars for 65 years. And our consumers could buy US goods with weaker dollars.

Deficits for soc sec require us to issue more debt. Getting rid of the cap on payroll taxes would make soc sec solvent in one day. I'm not for privatizing medicare, bit I'm not going to say having all you can use healthcare for people retired with 100K incomes makes much sense.

Your mistake was believing G5000s' bullshit.
Those monies paid back were mostly due to the loans, originally! (and a continuing Ponzi scheme).

Here, get up to snuff about the 'myth of paybacks'...........


Secrets and Lies of the Bailout

No it's not bs, and I don't totally agree with G5000. But the mainstream economists' concern over QE was: increasing the money supply faster than growth is beyond any doubt a cause for inflation. Which is why the Bernank did it. We had deflation, so he increased the dollars in play ... so a new truck still cost what a new truck should cost even though sales fell. The trick is in getting the dollars back into the central bank. Fortunately, no inflation is on the horizon, so there's time. And, as I tried to say, US mftring depends on getting the dollar down.

 

[Markle]

Anyone that votes for Hillary the crook should be very ashamed...

And the same for crook Trump too, I'd hope.

Vote 3rd party, make a difference.

Specifically how has Donald Trump broken the law?

How does that make a difference?

 

[Markle]

He's not quitting. Most Democrats wish to forget that Bernie Sanders is NOT a member of their party. He is a Socialist and doesn't give a rats behind about the Democrat Party except to turn it into the Socialist Party.

What will be the result of the meeting requested by Bernie Sanders and Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama?

 

[Rambunctious]

Bernie thinking of going 3rd party.......

 

[Markle]

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Depends on the variant of "socialism".
If the 1% continue to ignore the frustrations of the less fortunate, then more gov/worker control may be voted for. Bernie represents that frustration.

I understand he favors the Nordic model of social democracy, which refers to the economic and social policies common to Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland and Sweden. This includes a combination of free market capitalism with a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level.

If the rich don't wise up, we may see political changes they may not like, regardless of the rich man lobby, or marketing a la Trump.
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America would never, ever accept the taxes paid by the Scandanavian countries. Sure, the mindless children following Bernie Sanders look at him as little tykes see Santa Clause. It never even enters their mind that SOMEONE has to pay for all those goodies.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Bye bernie and his legion of clueless occutards....

 

[Vigilante]

Does it mean we DON'T get to do this...OR will the Hildebeast continue in the Berning Madman's tradition?

 

[Markle]

Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

It was when it was started. There were sixteen or so workers supporting each Social Security recipient and the life expectancy in 1950 was 68 years. Today, fewer than three support each recipient and the life expectancy is 78 years. In 1950 we paid 2% of the first $3,000 we earned or $600.00 per year. Now we pay over 15.3%, including medicare, on all income up to $118,500 or over $18,000. per year.

We need to begin to raise the retirement age if we are to increase the tax amount until we reach 78 or whatever the life expectancy rate is at that time.

 

[Markle]

Sanders is perfectly positioned to DICTATE the Democrat Party's platform!

All he has to tell 'em is "Capitulate or I run a write-in campaign".

Then sit back and watch 'em roll over and play dead.

Nothing would result from a write-in campaign other than a lot of wasted votes.

Bernie Sanders controls five of the fifteen seats on the Platform Committee. He will push, and push hard for a $15.00 minimum wage, free college, and free healthcare. He doesn't care the cost, he doesn't care the damage it will do. It is all about Bernie Sanders. He knows this is his last chance to push for pure Socialism.

 

[BIG YANK BAL 1976]

The longer this race dragged on the more i hated Sanders, who reminds me of a Ron Paul kook, only angrier, and more dingy, and face it Sanders is just a fraud...

Glad too see all of his fanboys wasted all their money, donating to him for the end result was a royal ass kicking from Clinton

Sorry Sanders, groupies, trolls, time to get outta moms basement and get a job, the free shit won't be coming

Everybody loves socialism, until they have to get a job, and become a maker and not a taker, you want it move to Europe, ain't ever gonna happen here! that's the reason Sanders lost the popular vote in this election by 3.7 million, and IT will increase to more next week when she butchers him in Washington DC!!

 

[frigidweirdo]

Anyone that votes for Hillary the crook should be very ashamed...

And the same for crook Trump too, I'd hope.

Vote 3rd party, make a difference.

Sure, waste your vote. Vote 3rd party!

The same old sentence that the two main parties use to stop people voting for anyone else

Democracy is dead, don't waste your vote.

 

[Indeependent]

Go ahead and just mention getting rid of social security...political suicide. As it should be. One of the best things we ever did in this country.

It was when it was started. There were sixteen or so workers supporting each Social Security recipient and the life expectancy in 1950 was 68 years. Today, fewer than three support each recipient and the life expectancy is 78 years. In 1950 we paid 2% of the first $3,000 we earned or $600.00 per year. Now we pay over 15.3%, including medicare, on all income up to $118,500 or over $18,000. per year.

We need to begin to raise the retirement age if we are to increase the tax amount until we reach 78 or whatever the life expectancy rate is at that time.

And if all those jobs weren't lost due to off-shoring, business visas and illegals, there would be way more than less than 3 working Americans persons per retiree.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Anyone that votes for Hillary the crook should be very ashamed...

And the same for crook Trump too, I'd hope.

Vote 3rd party, make a difference.

Specifically how has Donald Trump broken the law?

How does that make a difference?

Well, as far as know neither Hillary nor Trump have been convicted of any crimes, yet.

In the US, innocent until proven guilty is a mainstay of the law, isn't it?

 

[Moxie2]

Anyone that votes for Hillary the crook should be very ashamed...

And the same for crook Trump too, I'd hope.

Vote 3rd party, make a difference.

Sure, waste your vote. Vote 3rd party!

The same old sentence that the two main parties use to stop people voting for anyone else

Democracy is dead, don't waste your vote.

When was the last time a candidate was president from a party other than Republican or Democrat?

 

[Rambunctious]

When was the last time a candidate was president from a party other than Republican or Democrat?

1829 - 1837 Andrew Jackson first Democrat president and honest Abe was the first republican president 1861 - 1865