CDZ Good riots and bad riots.

[DandyDonovan]

I'll put something else out there...

Instead of the whole subjective "good or bad" judgement, how about "what was your outcome and did you achieve it"?

In France, it's safe to say that the mob violence provided the desired result...Not a highly recommended path, and the ends don't justify the means, but the tax was pushed back.

In Murica, the only outcome the Antifa goons have is to disrupt peoples lives and "punch Nazis"...I've neither heard of a specific positive outcome of the hooliganism, nor am I led to believe it would be achievable were it stated...They're just on the streets to act out their irrational anger issues.

Antifa is the political equivalent of "team fans" who go out and burn down the town after "their team" wins a title. They don't have any specific demands or wants, other than the rioting itself. They are just trouble makers looking to cause trouble.

 

[Andylusion]

Is there such a concept ?

I have grown used to hearing about the violence and destruction apparently caused by the American version of Antifa. It is generally seen as a bad thing.

But I have been watching reactions to the fuel riots in France and have noted that people seem a lot more understanding. This puzzles me. They have been a lot more destructive than anything seen in the states and there is a body count.

How can these riots be excused when antifa is being condemned.

My own take on the rioting business. People dont like upset and when they do happen the politicians should take note. Its also worth saying that riots can be used by rascals to misbehave. Rioting is the national sport in France , mainly because the French are always pissed over something.

Why arent people condemning the current french rioters ?

It's because of the reasons and motivations behind it.

Antifa has no reason to be upset. They are effectively pushing to squash free speech. They are not being oppressed, or paying 50% in taxes, or anything. There is no valid reason for them to be running a city wide terrorism campaign.

Meanwhile, in France you can sympathize completely with the protesters. I was reading where a man working as a carpet installer, was earning only $16K/year. That places what would be a professional trade skill here in the US that earns $44K, in the realm of a fast food join income. In fact a manager at a Wendy's, likely earns more than a carpet installer there.

So when you look at the near poverty of what would be a middle class job here in the US, you can understand why they are upset. I've seen carpet installers work. It's not easy, flip-the-burger-over type work. So why are they paid nothing?

Taxes, to pay for free education, free health care, pensions and so on.

I just filled up my car for less than $2 a gallon. In France, the price of petrol was over $8/gallon, and the government wanted to raise taxes on fuel even more, to pay for all their government socialized programs.

This is why it is more acceptable to be part of the yellow jacket protest, rather than Antifa. And the protesters themselves know there is a difference.

See the difference?

Antifa is trying to conceal who they are, hide what they are doing, operate in the dark.

Yellow Jackets are out in the open, proudly showing their faces. Why? Because they are just working people fighting against socialist oppression.

Antifa is more a bunch of spoiled brats, who never worked an 8 hour day, engaging in thuggery.