Good man with a gun saves Arizona Trooper

[percysunshine]

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Note the graphic in the article. Vermont has more guns (per capita) than New Hampshire. Like twice as many.

I would have never guessed that. Maybe Bernie Sanders has them planning a revolt or something.

 

[pwjohn]

IMO the citizen should have had a carry gun on him when he approached the savage attacking the cop. But it is great news that he did the right thing, although he will probably face the consequences of the subversive groups like the SPLC, etc. who hate it when citizens protect themselves and other law abiding citizens.

Your beliefs are leading you astray.

 

[Timmy]

Passing driver kills man attacking Arizona trooper on road

Wow. Good thing Arizona has common sense gun freedom....this had been New York or California or Illinois we would have another dead cop.

How do you figure ? Guns are legal everywhere .

 

[jon_berzerk]

Is it true the Obama Justice Dept is bringing charges against the good Samaritan?

maybe ya never know with pigs in a blanket (D) party

 

[Preacher]

Passing driver kills man attacking Arizona trooper on road

Wow. Good thing Arizona has common sense gun freedom....this had been New York or California or Illinois we would have another dead cop.

How do you figure ? Guns are legal everywhere .

They may be LEGAL but those states I stated try their hardest to make it as hard as possible to ever carry one legally or they make it so expensive to try and do so. Which is part of the INFRINGING on it....that will all end soon. Fed law supersedes state law and a bill was already introduced to establish reciprocation for guns for the entire country....Means laws for carrying won't vary per state.

 

[2aguy]

Passing driver kills man attacking Arizona trooper on road

Wow. Good thing Arizona has common sense gun freedom....this had been New York or California or Illinois we would have another dead cop.

How do you figure ? Guns are legal everywhere .

New York and California.....they make it almost impossible in New York for normal people to carry guns...dittos most parts of California....there is a case going to the Supreme Court on this very soon....

Illinois......we have only had concealed carry for about 2 years now....so there aren't that many people with permits yet...

 

[2aguy]

Passing driver kills man attacking Arizona trooper on road

Wow. Good thing Arizona has common sense gun freedom....this had been New York or California or Illinois we would have another dead cop.

How do you figure ? Guns are legal everywhere .

Here you go.....

'Shall Issue' Peruta California Concealed Carry Case Heading to Supreme Court? - The Truth About Guns

The case made history in 2014 when a 3-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit held that the San Diego County Sheriff’s restrictive “good cause” policy for the issuance of a concealed carry license violates the Second Amendment.

But shortly after that decision, the Ninth Circuit took the rare step of deciding to rehear the case by an 11-judge “en banc” panel who overturned the 3-judge panel opinion last June. The Petition explains it all. Give it a read!

But now the tides have changed. As a result of the NRA’s efforts in the November election, there has never been a greater opportunity to protect the right to keep and bear arms in California and throughout the United States.

And with President-elect Donald Trump set to nominate at least one if not several pro-gun judges to the Supreme Court, NRA and CRPA are working hard to make “shall-issue” a reality in California. In addition, several new NRA/CRPA lawsuits will soon be launched against Proposition 63 and the seven new “Gunmageddon” anti-gun bills signed into law this past year.

 

[American_Jihad]

An Arizona State Trooper responded to a traffic accident and was shot by a suspect then, while down, was beaten by the suspect. The trooper called for help. A passing motorist stopped, retrieved his gun and, after severals warnings to stop beating the Trooper, shot the suspect dead.

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Motorist who aided wounded trooper recalls fear, confusion
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[frigidweirdo]

An Arizona State Trooper responded to a traffic accident and was shot by a suspect then, while down, was beaten by the suspect. The trooper called for help. A passing motorist stopped, retrieved his gun and, after severals warnings to stop beating the Trooper, shot the suspect dead.


Motorist with gun kills man beating Arizona state trooper - CNN.com
An Arizona trooper who had been shot and was being beaten by a man with a pistol was saved Thursday by a motorist who killed his attacker, authorities said.

The man who came upon the scene warned the suspect to stop striking the officer, but the man continued, said Capt. Damon Cecil, a spokesman for the Arizona Department of Public Safety, said.
The good Samaritan got a gun from his car and shot the suspect, who died at the scene.
The trooper, a 27-year veteran, was shot in the chest and shoulder. He is in serious and stable condition, Cecil said.

Col. Frank Milstead @frank_milstead
Thanks for the thoughts and prayers this morning for our Trooper that was shot. Looks like he will be okay after some recovery @Arizona_DPS
8:26 AM - 12 Jan 2017

Col. Frank Milstead, director of the public safety department, said he would like to thank the man who stepped in. "I don't know that my trooper would be alive today without his assistance," he said, according to CNN affiliate KNXV.

Unusual circumstances
Public safety spokesman Bart Graves said the incident began with the trooper responding to report of shots fired from the median of an unlit, rural section of Interstate 10 near Tonopah. The officer came across a vehicle that had rolled over and got out to investigate. While the trooper was setting flares, the suspect shot him.
It was not clear where the suspect was when the officer pulled up.
Milstead said at some point the suspect started beating the trooper, who was unable to use his right arm to defend himself. That's when the motorist pulled up and opened fire on the suspect.
"It's fairly rare" that citizens who come to the aid of law enforcement officers use deadly force, Cecil said.
Another motorist who stopped used the trooper's portable radio to call in the shooting.
The conversation between that driver and the dispatcher was very businesslike, Cecil said.
"Hello. Officer down, officer down outside Tonopah. Come in, please," the man says, according to audio archived on Broadcastify, which streams radio communications between emergency responders. "He's in real bad shape. Please send air support, helicopter, please."
He tells the dispatcher there are two other people who are down in an "unknown condition."
Cecil praised the motorists who stopped to help, saying, "They were calm, determined."
A woman who was ejected from the vehicle died at a hospital, authorities said.
Authorities didn't release the names of the people involved in the incident, which occurred after 4 a.m. near mile marker 89, west of Tonopah. That city is about 50 miles west of Phoenix.

Have you seen the death rates for police officers in other first world countries?

List of British police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

In the UK 6 police officers have died in the line of duty. Three were shot, two were in the same incident, and two were run over and one died while chasing a suspect and collapsed.

List of American police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

2016 The Officer Down Memorial Page reports 140 deaths in the line of duty.

In the same period of time 795 US police officers were killed in the line of duty. The UK has a population 5 times smaller than the US. So, the UK equivalent is 30, the US has 795. Spot the difference guns in society make to the safety for police officers?

 

[2aguy]

An Arizona State Trooper responded to a traffic accident and was shot by a suspect then, while down, was beaten by the suspect. The trooper called for help. A passing motorist stopped, retrieved his gun and, after severals warnings to stop beating the Trooper, shot the suspect dead.


Motorist with gun kills man beating Arizona state trooper - CNN.com
An Arizona trooper who had been shot and was being beaten by a man with a pistol was saved Thursday by a motorist who killed his attacker, authorities said.

The man who came upon the scene warned the suspect to stop striking the officer, but the man continued, said Capt. Damon Cecil, a spokesman for the Arizona Department of Public Safety, said.
The good Samaritan got a gun from his car and shot the suspect, who died at the scene.
The trooper, a 27-year veteran, was shot in the chest and shoulder. He is in serious and stable condition, Cecil said.

Col. Frank Milstead @frank_milstead
Thanks for the thoughts and prayers this morning for our Trooper that was shot. Looks like he will be okay after some recovery @Arizona_DPS
8:26 AM - 12 Jan 2017

Col. Frank Milstead, director of the public safety department, said he would like to thank the man who stepped in. "I don't know that my trooper would be alive today without his assistance," he said, according to CNN affiliate KNXV.

Unusual circumstances
Public safety spokesman Bart Graves said the incident began with the trooper responding to report of shots fired from the median of an unlit, rural section of Interstate 10 near Tonopah. The officer came across a vehicle that had rolled over and got out to investigate. While the trooper was setting flares, the suspect shot him.
It was not clear where the suspect was when the officer pulled up.
Milstead said at some point the suspect started beating the trooper, who was unable to use his right arm to defend himself. That's when the motorist pulled up and opened fire on the suspect.
"It's fairly rare" that citizens who come to the aid of law enforcement officers use deadly force, Cecil said.
Another motorist who stopped used the trooper's portable radio to call in the shooting.
The conversation between that driver and the dispatcher was very businesslike, Cecil said.
"Hello. Officer down, officer down outside Tonopah. Come in, please," the man says, according to audio archived on Broadcastify, which streams radio communications between emergency responders. "He's in real bad shape. Please send air support, helicopter, please."
He tells the dispatcher there are two other people who are down in an "unknown condition."
Cecil praised the motorists who stopped to help, saying, "They were calm, determined."
A woman who was ejected from the vehicle died at a hospital, authorities said.
Authorities didn't release the names of the people involved in the incident, which occurred after 4 a.m. near mile marker 89, west of Tonopah. That city is about 50 miles west of Phoenix.

Have you seen the death rates for police officers in other first world countries?

List of British police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

In the UK 6 police officers have died in the line of duty. Three were shot, two were in the same incident, and two were run over and one died while chasing a suspect and collapsed.

List of American police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

2016 The Officer Down Memorial Page reports 140 deaths in the line of duty.

In the same period of time 795 US police officers were killed in the line of duty. The UK has a population 5 times smaller than the US. So, the UK equivalent is 30, the US has 795. Spot the difference guns in society make to the safety for police officers?

And of course...you are wrong...again. Look up the death rate for police officers before they banned guns in Britain...it will be lower than the United States moron. After they banned guns....no difference.....banning guns didn't change their gun crime rate, their gun murder rate or their police officer death rate...since murder is not something British criminals used to do...they are violent, sadistic, but they do not commit murder the way our thugs do.....

But.......as Britain has imported foriegn immigrants into their country, who do not share British culture or values...their gun crime rate has been increasing......and the number of guns on the streets is also increasing...despite the ban and confiscation.....


You have no idea what you are talking about with this issue, yet you continue to speak out of your ass...

 

[2aguy]

An Arizona State Trooper responded to a traffic accident and was shot by a suspect then, while down, was beaten by the suspect. The trooper called for help. A passing motorist stopped, retrieved his gun and, after severals warnings to stop beating the Trooper, shot the suspect dead.


Motorist with gun kills man beating Arizona state trooper - CNN.com
An Arizona trooper who had been shot and was being beaten by a man with a pistol was saved Thursday by a motorist who killed his attacker, authorities said.

The man who came upon the scene warned the suspect to stop striking the officer, but the man continued, said Capt. Damon Cecil, a spokesman for the Arizona Department of Public Safety, said.
The good Samaritan got a gun from his car and shot the suspect, who died at the scene.
The trooper, a 27-year veteran, was shot in the chest and shoulder. He is in serious and stable condition, Cecil said.

Col. Frank Milstead @frank_milstead
Thanks for the thoughts and prayers this morning for our Trooper that was shot. Looks like he will be okay after some recovery @Arizona_DPS
8:26 AM - 12 Jan 2017

Col. Frank Milstead, director of the public safety department, said he would like to thank the man who stepped in. "I don't know that my trooper would be alive today without his assistance," he said, according to CNN affiliate KNXV.

Unusual circumstances
Public safety spokesman Bart Graves said the incident began with the trooper responding to report of shots fired from the median of an unlit, rural section of Interstate 10 near Tonopah. The officer came across a vehicle that had rolled over and got out to investigate. While the trooper was setting flares, the suspect shot him.
It was not clear where the suspect was when the officer pulled up.
Milstead said at some point the suspect started beating the trooper, who was unable to use his right arm to defend himself. That's when the motorist pulled up and opened fire on the suspect.
"It's fairly rare" that citizens who come to the aid of law enforcement officers use deadly force, Cecil said.
Another motorist who stopped used the trooper's portable radio to call in the shooting.
The conversation between that driver and the dispatcher was very businesslike, Cecil said.
"Hello. Officer down, officer down outside Tonopah. Come in, please," the man says, according to audio archived on Broadcastify, which streams radio communications between emergency responders. "He's in real bad shape. Please send air support, helicopter, please."
He tells the dispatcher there are two other people who are down in an "unknown condition."
Cecil praised the motorists who stopped to help, saying, "They were calm, determined."
A woman who was ejected from the vehicle died at a hospital, authorities said.
Authorities didn't release the names of the people involved in the incident, which occurred after 4 a.m. near mile marker 89, west of Tonopah. That city is about 50 miles west of Phoenix.

Have you seen the death rates for police officers in other first world countries?

List of British police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

In the UK 6 police officers have died in the line of duty. Three were shot, two were in the same incident, and two were run over and one died while chasing a suspect and collapsed.

List of American police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

2016 The Officer Down Memorial Page reports 140 deaths in the line of duty.

In the same period of time 795 US police officers were killed in the line of duty. The UK has a population 5 times smaller than the US. So, the UK equivalent is 30, the US has 795. Spot the difference guns in society make to the safety for police officers?

Moron.....look at your own link....before Britain banned guns...their cops weren't being murdered by criminals at our rate......so law abiding British citizens having guns did not lead to more police deaths...moron.......
List of British police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia

 

[2aguy]

An Arizona State Trooper responded to a traffic accident and was shot by a suspect then, while down, was beaten by the suspect. The trooper called for help. A passing motorist stopped, retrieved his gun and, after severals warnings to stop beating the Trooper, shot the suspect dead.

...

Motorist who aided wounded trooper recalls fear, confusion
16 / 19

Associated Press
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By PAUL DAVENPORT, Associated Press 8 hrs ago

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Motorist who aided wounded trooper recalls fear, confusion

In what way do you mean this post?

 

[Divine Wind]

....Spot the difference guns in society make to the safety for police officers?

Freedom isn't free.

 

[frigidweirdo]

....Spot the difference guns in society make to the safety for police officers?

Freedom isn't free.

Er.... who was talking freedom? We were talking about safety of police officers. Go figure.

 

[Divine Wind]

Er.... who was talking freedom? We were talking about safety of police officers. Go figure.

No, you were pushing an argument that banning guns reduces deaths. The standard LW anti-gun meme. You know, the same LW anti-gun meme that inflates US gun deaths with suicides, which effectively doubles your numbers.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Er.... who was talking freedom? We were talking about safety of police officers. Go figure.

No, you were pushing an argument that banning guns reduces deaths. The standard LW anti-gun meme. You know, the same LW anti-gun meme that inflates US gun deaths with suicides, which effectively doubles your numbers.

So, tell me, are these statistics true?

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

US murder rate - 3.9
UK - 0.9
Germany - 0.9
France - 1.2
Denmark - 1.0
Australia - 1.0
Hong Kong - 0.9
Japan - 0.3
Luxembourg - 0.7
Holland - 0.7
South Korea - 0.7

So, anything not true here?

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia

US firearm homicide rate - 3.43
UK - 0.06
Germany - 0.07
France - 0.21
Denmark - 0.22
Australia - 0.16
Hong Kong - 0.0
Japan - 0.0
Luxembourg - 0.0
Holland - 0.29
South Korea - 0.02

So, anything not true here?

Also, I'm not suggesting that not that simply banning guns automatically does something. I did show that 6 police officers were killed in the line of duty in the last 6 years, compared to the US's 795 police officers killed in the line of duty (with the UK's rate of 30 being the equivalent of the US's per capita).

The point I made was that police officers in the US do a far more dangerous job. It makes them more edgy when they come up against criminals, it makes them more likely to die, and the reason for it is guns in society and other factors, though guns in society is one of the main factors.

You can do the whole "it's a LW meme" as a way of trying to say that something isn't true while you're not willing to back up your claim, but it doesn't work with me, because I'm willing to go out there and get the evidence for what I'm saying, and I'm not willing to say things that are simply black and white. I know it's not just guns, there are major problems in US society that aren't getting fixed and there doesn't seem to be a desire to get them fixed. People prefer populism to reality.

 

[Divine Wind]

So, tell me, are these statistics true?...

They are probably accurate. Do you think it's because of guns or culture? Do guns jump up off the table and suddenly kill people or do you think it's something different about society that causes these numbers to differ? If you removed all the black-on-black male gang-banger murders, doesn't the US statistic drop to Euro norms?

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, tell me, are these statistics true?...

They are probably accurate. Do you think it's because of guns or culture? Do guns jump up off the table and suddenly kill people or do you think it's something different about society that causes these numbers to differ? If you removed all the black-on-black male gang-banger murders, doesn't the US statistic drop to Euro norms?

Well guns affect the culture. I think it's because of both.

No, guns don't jump off a table. However a person with a gun (especially men) feel a lot more empowered with guns. Those who are more of the criminal mind are more likely to use them.

It doesn't matter whether you remove black-on-black gang murders, there are such things in Europe too. But no, I doubt it. But you can go try and figure that out if you wish.

However poverty is a big thing. If you were to deal with poverty, you'd see crime drop.

 

[2aguy]

Er.... who was talking freedom? We were talking about safety of police officers. Go figure.

No, you were pushing an argument that banning guns reduces deaths. The standard LW anti-gun meme. You know, the same LW anti-gun meme that inflates US gun deaths with suicides, which effectively doubles your numbers.

So, tell me, are these statistics true?

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

US murder rate - 3.9
UK - 0.9
Germany - 0.9
France - 1.2
Denmark - 1.0
Australia - 1.0
Hong Kong - 0.9
Japan - 0.3
Luxembourg - 0.7
Holland - 0.7
South Korea - 0.7

So, anything not true here?

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia

US firearm homicide rate - 3.43
UK - 0.06
Germany - 0.07
France - 0.21
Denmark - 0.22
Australia - 0.16
Hong Kong - 0.0
Japan - 0.0
Luxembourg - 0.0
Holland - 0.29
South Korea - 0.02

So, anything not true here?

Also, I'm not suggesting that not that simply banning guns automatically does something. I did show that 6 police officers were killed in the line of duty in the last 6 years, compared to the US's 795 police officers killed in the line of duty (with the UK's rate of 30 being the equivalent of the US's per capita).

The point I made was that police officers in the US do a far more dangerous job. It makes them more edgy when they come up against criminals, it makes them more likely to die, and the reason for it is guns in society and other factors, though guns in society is one of the main factors.

You can do the whole "it's a LW meme" as a way of trying to say that something isn't true while you're not willing to back up your claim, but it doesn't work with me, because I'm willing to go out there and get the evidence for what I'm saying, and I'm not willing to say things that are simply black and white. I know it's not just guns, there are major problems in US society that aren't getting fixed and there doesn't seem to be a desire to get them fixed. People prefer populism to reality.

Those number leave out the actual reason they have low gun crime rates....their culture. Their criminals do not commit crime or murder at the same levels as American criminals...their gun control has nothing to do with that rate.....in fact, Britain is seeing a spike in gun crime.....but their gun murder rate is still low....why...because their criminals, though sadistic and barbaric, do not commit murder as often or as easily as American criminals...but that is changing....they are starting to catch up to us as their welfare state and immigration policies destroy the values and culture that kept their crime rates low........

Australia and France are seeing the same thing.......

All gun control has done for Britain is make it 2X as violent as the United States, and the most violent country in Europe...they just don't commit murder....

Please...engage your brain, and think before you post.

 

[2aguy]

So, tell me, are these statistics true?...

They are probably accurate. Do you think it's because of guns or culture? Do guns jump up off the table and suddenly kill people or do you think it's something different about society that causes these numbers to differ? If you removed all the black-on-black male gang-banger murders, doesn't the US statistic drop to Euro norms?

Yes....that is true.....90% of those who commit murder in the United States are criminals with long histories of violence and felonies......and the majority of the killers are minorities in democrat voting districts.

We had 200 million guns in this country in the 1990s.....and 4.7 million people actually carried guns for self defense......in 2016 we now have 357-400 million guns and over 15 million people carry guns for self defense.......and our gun murder rate went down 47% and our violent crime rate went down 77%......

Which shows that Frigid has no idea what they are talking about....since his belief system...and the anti gun movement believe that more guns = more crime.....and the fact that as more law abiding Americans buy , own and carry guns and our gun murder rate and our over all crime rate was cut in half and well over half, shows that he is completely wrong....

The entire basis for the anti gun movement in this country is wrong.......and that is backed up by actual facts, truth and reality........