Good BBC article on US presidential elections

[IcebergSlim]

IceIce,

I can appreciate your reticence. ..but why are you ashamed of being a stooge of Reich Wing Infotainment Media?

You are like JoeB, maybe you are JoeB. Your sole purpose here is to insult people that don't hold your mindless ideology.

I am not at all ashamed to reveal my daily reads...... What does that suggest to you?

Your daily reads? LOL. See above.

Wouldn't you need to know what they are before passing judgement on them?

That's why I asked for yours.....

I speak for myself. What are you babbling about? Are you from HuffPo or something?

Focus, IceIce.....

Assuming you don't live in a world of your own making, you are probably relying on various media sources for your information.....

I'm reasonably sure I can guess what those are, but now my curiosity has shifted to the reasons for your embarrassment....

 

[Tilly]

I think the BBC just raised the questions which has been said on this forum and number times:

Is the US in a permenant state of campaigning?
Has campaign finances dominated candidates decisions?
How is it every other country has the campaigning season at around 6 - 12 weeks and US is moving closer to 2 years?
Is the Electoral College a fair way to select a candidate when 40 states votes effectively mean nothing?
Is there better way to do this?

Trump's impact is not because of his money, it's because of his message.


He is speaking what a lot of people have wanted to hear for a long time and have NOT gotten from their political class.

It is a good thing.

THe UK? Google UK Rape Rings and ask why yourself how well an anti-immigration populist would do in a presidential election there.

We just had an election and that guy won a grand total of one seat. People in the UK are laughing at Trump rather than taking him seriously. To be honest Donald Duck has more credibility than Donald Trump.

A lot of people in the UK are not laughing at Trump and there was a petition NOT to ban him form the UK, alongside the one to ban him, which was all the BBC was interested in reporting, unsurprisingly. ALso, a Yougov poll showed that a quarter of Brits agreed that Trumps suggestion to halt immigration of Muslims is right for the US. Please don't imply you speak for all Brits, you don't.
Incidentally, because of the unfair voting system:

......He is quick to point out that, despite having just one MP, in terms of the share of the vote Ukip was the third largest party behind Labour and the Conservatives. Overall, Ukip secured 12.6% of the vote, an increase of 9.5 percentage points from the 2010 election, the largest of any major party and more than three times the size of the SNP’s improvement.

Ukip came second in 118 of the 650 parliamentary seats. A map of Britain illustrating second-place voting patterns reveals purple splashed across middle England, suggesting that if the current system were replaced with the alternative vote (AV), where voters rank the candidates in order of preference, Ukip would fare considerably better.....

Five million votes, two seats: smaller parties demand a change in the rules

 

[IcebergSlim]

Palin Endorses Trump, But Not His Economic Policies
Summary of Sarah Palin's Economic Views

As Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin demonstrated her position on energy and oil prices, a balanced budget, cutting taxes, and spurring economic growth. However, this position didn't give her experience on many important national topics, such as free trade, military spending and any stimulus to the financial crisis.

Palin Supported a Balanced Budget and Tax Relief
Palin's commitment to fiscal responsibility would be good for the economy. Before becoming Governor, Palin was Mayor of Wasilla, where she cut property taxes 60% while spurring economic growth. She sold a $2.1 million corporate jet bought by her predecessor, and cut $231 million from Alaska's $550 million capital budget. She would try to cut the federal debt.
(Source: WSJ, "Jet That Helped Defeat an Alaska Governor Is Sold," August 25, 2007; Alaska Journal of Commerce, "Lawmakers cringe over governor's deep budget cuts," July 8, 2007)

That's fine.

One of the major themes of the Left is that Trump is Evul. (racist, greedy, whatever)

Palin is a very nice and likable person.

Her endorsement will weaken that line of attack.

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

So you now shifted it to likeability instead? That's up to individuals, not you. She gets a lot of applause, probably more than you.

I thought it an appropriate response to

Palin is a very nice and likable person.


IceIce,

You ain't too bright...

You're a retard so how could know gauge? I responded to your assertion "She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight..." with the link mentioning her economic success so you immediately shifted to likeability.

You're full of shit and too dumb to see how obvious it is.

If you scroll back, you will see that I referred to that poll in a response to another poster who made reference to her likeability....

Her "economic success"?

I showed you what happened to Wasilla's debt while she was mayor....

She served roughly 30 months as Governor......I'm hard pressed to see how the sale of a state owned jet well below the original asking price qualifies as a success...

 

[Tilly]

We just had an election and that guy won a grand total of one seat. People in the UK are laughing at Trump rather than taking him seriously. To be honest Donald Duck has more credibility than Donald Trump.

Which raises all kinds of question about what is wrong with your election process.


Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Widespread organised child sexual abuse took place in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England, between 1997 and 2013. Local investigations into the abuse began in 1999, although some reports were never finalised or made public by the authorities.[1] In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve.[2] A subsequent investigation by The Times reported that the child sex exploitation was much more widespread, and the Home Affairs Select Committee criticised the South Yorkshire Police force and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council for their handling of the abuse.


...It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men.[7] Abuses described by the report included abduction, rape, torture and sex trafficking of children.[6]
Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism

There is no way that is accurately reflecting the Will of the People when you have scandals like that occurring.

I dont think that anybody pretends that there is a perfect system in place in Britain. Your last sentence is beyond me. Perhaps you could explain your point in simpler terms.

It was a reference back to your statement that the anti-immigration populist only got one seat.

Considering the utter disaster your immigration policy is, for that to happen, that has to be a problem in your system.

I refuse to believe that that policy can actually be the Will of the People.

Quite:

...Much as I loathe the United Kingdom Independence Party (Ukip), the fact that it won 3.9 million votes in the election but has only emerged with one MP is a national scandal and an affront to democracy. Its voters are entitled to commensurate representation in parliament....

I loathe Ukip but one MP for 3.9 million votes is a national disgrace

Yes it isnt perfect but it is difficult to shed tears for Farage and his crew.

I'm not interested in what you'd shed tears over.
The system is grossly unfair.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I think the BBC just raised the questions which has been said on this forum and number times:

Is the US in a permenant state of campaigning?
Has campaign finances dominated candidates decisions?
How is it every other country has the campaigning season at around 6 - 12 weeks and US is moving closer to 2 years?
Is the Electoral College a fair way to select a candidate when 40 states votes effectively mean nothing?
Is there better way to do this?

Trump's impact is not because of his money, it's because of his message.


He is speaking what a lot of people have wanted to hear for a long time and have NOT gotten from their political class.

It is a good thing.

THe UK? Google UK Rape Rings and ask why yourself how well an anti-immigration populist would do in a presidential election there.

We just had an election and that guy won a grand total of one seat. People in the UK are laughing at Trump rather than taking him seriously. To be honest Donald Duck has more credibility than Donald Trump.

A lot of people in the UK are not laughing at Trump and there was a petition NOT to ban him form the UK, alongside the one to ban him, which was all the BBC was interested in reporting, unsurprisingly. ALso, a Yougov poll showed that a quarter of Brits agreed that Trumps suggestion to halt immigration of Muslims is right for the US. Please don't imply you speak for all Brits, you don't.
Incidentally, because of the unfair voting system:

......He is quick to point out that, despite having just one MP, in terms of the share of the vote Ukip was the third largest party behind Labour and the Conservatives. Overall, Ukip secured 12.6% of the vote, an increase of 9.5 percentage points from the 2010 election, the largest of any major party and more than three times the size of the SNP’s improvement.

Ukip came second in 118 of the 650 parliamentary seats. A map of Britain illustrating second-place voting patterns reveals purple splashed across middle England, suggesting that if the current system were replaced with the alternative vote (AV), where voters rank the candidates in order of preference, Ukip would fare considerably better.....

Five million votes, two seats: smaller parties demand a change in the rules

And how many signatures did the we love donald petition get ? Trump is a laughing stock in the UK.

 

[Tilly]

I think the BBC just raised the questions which has been said on this forum and number times:

Is the US in a permenant state of campaigning?
Has campaign finances dominated candidates decisions?
How is it every other country has the campaigning season at around 6 - 12 weeks and US is moving closer to 2 years?
Is the Electoral College a fair way to select a candidate when 40 states votes effectively mean nothing?
Is there better way to do this?

Trump's impact is not because of his money, it's because of his message.


He is speaking what a lot of people have wanted to hear for a long time and have NOT gotten from their political class.

It is a good thing.

THe UK? Google UK Rape Rings and ask why yourself how well an anti-immigration populist would do in a presidential election there.

We just had an election and that guy won a grand total of one seat. People in the UK are laughing at Trump rather than taking him seriously. To be honest Donald Duck has more credibility than Donald Trump.

A lot of people in the UK are not laughing at Trump and there was a petition NOT to ban him form the UK, alongside the one to ban him, which was all the BBC was interested in reporting, unsurprisingly. ALso, a Yougov poll showed that a quarter of Brits agreed that Trumps suggestion to halt immigration of Muslims is right for the US. Please don't imply you speak for all Brits, you don't.
Incidentally, because of the unfair voting system:

......He is quick to point out that, despite having just one MP, in terms of the share of the vote Ukip was the third largest party behind Labour and the Conservatives. Overall, Ukip secured 12.6% of the vote, an increase of 9.5 percentage points from the 2010 election, the largest of any major party and more than three times the size of the SNP’s improvement.

Ukip came second in 118 of the 650 parliamentary seats. A map of Britain illustrating second-place voting patterns reveals purple splashed across middle England, suggesting that if the current system were replaced with the alternative vote (AV), where voters rank the candidates in order of preference, Ukip would fare considerably better.....

Five million votes, two seats: smaller parties demand a change in the rules

And how many signatures did the we love donald petition get ? Trump is a laughing stock in the UK.

The Yougov poll and the petition suggest otherwise. Stop peddling your own libturd views as those of ALL Brits.

 

[Iceweasel]

That's fine.

One of the major themes of the Left is that Trump is Evul. (racist, greedy, whatever)

Palin is a very nice and likable person.

Her endorsement will weaken that line of attack.

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

So you now shifted it to likeability instead? That's up to individuals, not you. She gets a lot of applause, probably more than you.

I thought it an appropriate response to

Palin is a very nice and likable person.


IceIce,

You ain't too bright...

You're a retard so how could know gauge? I responded to your assertion "She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight..." with the link mentioning her economic success so you immediately shifted to likeability.

You're full of shit and too dumb to see how obvious it is.

If you scroll back, you will see that I referred to that poll in a response to another poster who made reference to her likeability....

Her "economic success"?

I showed you what happened to Wasilla's debt while she was mayor....

She served roughly 30 months as Governor......I'm hard pressed to see how the sale of a state owned jet well below the original asking price qualifies as a success...

You responded to my post about her economic success, it had nothing to do with "likeability" and you don't get to decide for others. She didn't want to use tax dollars to house, maintain and fly in a big ass jet, she could have given it away and it would be a plus.

I'll stick with Amadeo's opinion over yours. You like to pick and choose.

"Palin Did Not Address True Cause of High Gas Prices
As Governor, Palin sought to spur economic growth and increase energy supplies by supporting drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).
She signed a contract for a $26 billion natural gas pipeline with TransCanada Corp. To help Alaskans with high gas prices, she gave a one-time $1,200 tax rebate and repealed the state’s 8-cents-a-gallon gasoline tax for a year. The funds for these consumer rebates came from a windfall profits tax she imposed on oil companies last year."

 

[Iceweasel]

That's fine.

One of the major themes of the Left is that Trump is Evul. (racist, greedy, whatever)

Palin is a very nice and likable person.

Her endorsement will weaken that line of attack.

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

So you now shifted it to likeability instead? That's up to individuals, not you. She gets a lot of applause, probably more than you.

I thought it an appropriate response to

Palin is a very nice and likable person.


IceIce,

You ain't too bright...

You're a retard so how could know gauge? I responded to your assertion "She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight..." with the link mentioning her economic success so you immediately shifted to likeability.

You're full of shit and too dumb to see how obvious it is.

If you scroll back, you will see that I referred to that poll in a response to another poster who made reference to her likeability....

Her "economic success"?

I showed you what happened to Wasilla's debt while she was mayor....

She served roughly 30 months as Governor......I'm hard pressed to see how the sale of a state owned jet well below the original asking price qualifies as a success...

You responded to my post about her economic success, it had nothing to do with "likeability" and you don't get to decide for others. She didn't want to use tax dollars to house, maintain and fly in a big ass jet, she could have given it away and it would be a plus. You must be from HuffPo. I'll

You are like JoeB, maybe you are JoeB. Your sole purpose here is to insult people that don't hold your mindless ideology.

I am not at all ashamed to reveal my daily reads...... What does that suggest to you?

Your daily reads? LOL. See above.

Wouldn't you need to know what they are before passing judgement on them?

That's why I asked for yours.....

I speak for myself. What are you babbling about? Are you from HuffPo or something?

Focus, IceIce.....

Assuming you don't live in a world of your own making, you are probably relying on various media sources for your information.....

I'm reasonably sure I can guess what those are, but now my curiosity has shifted to the reasons for your embarrassment....

You think like a child. Talk like a child. And think we are all on a playground. You're full of yourself but can't see that it's shit.

 

[IcebergSlim]

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

So you now shifted it to likeability instead? That's up to individuals, not you. She gets a lot of applause, probably more than you.

I thought it an appropriate response to

Palin is a very nice and likable person.


IceIce,

You ain't too bright...

You're a retard so how could know gauge? I responded to your assertion "She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight..." with the link mentioning her economic success so you immediately shifted to likeability.

You're full of shit and too dumb to see how obvious it is.

If you scroll back, you will see that I referred to that poll in a response to another poster who made reference to her likeability....

Her "economic success"?

I showed you what happened to Wasilla's debt while she was mayor....

She served roughly 30 months as Governor......I'm hard pressed to see how the sale of a state owned jet well below the original asking price qualifies as a success...

You responded to my post about her economic success, it had nothing to do with "likeability" and you don't get to decide for others. She didn't want to use tax dollars to house, maintain and fly in a big ass jet, she could have given it away and it would be a plus.

I'll stick with Amadeo's opinion over yours. You like to pick and choose.

"Palin Did Not Address True Cause of High Gas Prices
As Governor, Palin sought to spur economic growth and increase energy supplies by supporting drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).
She signed a contract for a $26 billion natural gas pipeline with TransCanada Corp. To help Alaskans with high gas prices, she gave a one-time $1,200 tax rebate and repealed the state’s 8-cents-a-gallon gasoline tax for a year. The funds for these consumer rebates came from a windfall profits tax she imposed on oil companies last year."

Good BBC article on US presidential elections

This continues to indicate that the response in question was addressed to Correll....

So you consider her greatest achievement to have been squeezing oil companies for higher royalties?

And a jet which sells for 2.1 million can't possibly be " big ass"

 

[IcebergSlim]

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

So you now shifted it to likeability instead? That's up to individuals, not you. She gets a lot of applause, probably more than you.

I thought it an appropriate response to

Palin is a very nice and likable person.


IceIce,

You ain't too bright...

You're a retard so how could know gauge? I responded to your assertion "She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight..." with the link mentioning her economic success so you immediately shifted to likeability.

You're full of shit and too dumb to see how obvious it is.

If you scroll back, you will see that I referred to that poll in a response to another poster who made reference to her likeability....

Her "economic success"?

I showed you what happened to Wasilla's debt while she was mayor....

She served roughly 30 months as Governor......I'm hard pressed to see how the sale of a state owned jet well below the original asking price qualifies as a success...

You responded to my post about her economic success, it had nothing to do with "likeability" and you don't get to decide for others. She didn't want to use tax dollars to house, maintain and fly in a big ass jet, she could have given it away and it would be a plus. You must be from HuffPo. I'll

I am not at all ashamed to reveal my daily reads...... What does that suggest to you?

Your daily reads? LOL. See above.

Wouldn't you need to know what they are before passing judgement on them?

That's why I asked for yours.....

I speak for myself. What are you babbling about? Are you from HuffPo or something?

Focus, IceIce.....

Assuming you don't live in a world of your own making, you are probably relying on various media sources for your information.....

I'm reasonably sure I can guess what those are, but now my curiosity has shifted to the reasons for your embarrassment....

You think like a child. Talk like a child. And think we are all on a playground. You're full of yourself but can't see that it's shit.

You're the one in the throes of yet another hissy..

 

[Stephanie]

well biased like I expected. Dump on the Republicans. BBC isn't unbiased so take it with a grain of salt.

Biased would probably be the wrong term. It's written for the British audience, it's explaining things from a different perspective with no real need to take political sides in the matter.

You're kidding your self if you think the BBC is unbiased in this.


THey completely miss the point why Trump gets so much media play.

The media spends that much time on TRump because they are trying to destroy him.

I don't think it is the highly educated person who doesn't get it.

Some might be trying to destroy him, most just love what Trump does, even if they don't like what Trump does.

oh brother, you don't think it's the highly educated. what are the "highly educmatctaed" Democrats choices? a damn corrupted career politician or a old geezer career politician who claims to be an Avowed Socialist. How much education is that going to take to pick one?
what snobs

 

[Correll]

No.

Her career in Alaska politics certainly does not seem the work of a moron.

Sarah Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For how many terms did she practice her love?

Several.

Her career in Alaska politics certainly does not seem the work of a moron.

She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight...

YOu disagreed with her policies and her ideology.

I understand that as a liberal that you assume that means she is a moron.

But I do not share your belief system and will not allow it to define my reality .

Her career was impressive and not the career of a moron, despite the fact that she made different choices than you would.

I think increasing Wasilla's debt, in 6 years, by a factor of 22 is well beyond "interpretation".... But it is totes Supply Side...

YOu disagreed with her policies and her ideology.

I understand that as a liberal that you assume that means she is a moron.

But I do not share your belief system and will not allow it to define my reality .

Her career was impressive and not the career of a moron, despite the fact that she made different choices than you would.

 

[Correll]

She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight...

Palin Endorses Trump, But Not His Economic Policies
Summary of Sarah Palin's Economic Views

As Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin demonstrated her position on energy and oil prices, a balanced budget, cutting taxes, and spurring economic growth. However, this position didn't give her experience on many important national topics, such as free trade, military spending and any stimulus to the financial crisis.

Palin Supported a Balanced Budget and Tax Relief
Palin's commitment to fiscal responsibility would be good for the economy. Before becoming Governor, Palin was Mayor of Wasilla, where she cut property taxes 60% while spurring economic growth. She sold a $2.1 million corporate jet bought by her predecessor, and cut $231 million from Alaska's $550 million capital budget. She would try to cut the federal debt.
(Source: WSJ, "Jet That Helped Defeat an Alaska Governor Is Sold," August 25, 2007; Alaska Journal of Commerce, "Lawmakers cringe over governor's deep budget cuts," July 8, 2007)

That's fine.

One of the major themes of the Left is that Trump is Evul. (racist, greedy, whatever)

Palin is a very nice and likable person.

Her endorsement will weaken that line of attack.

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

From what little reality TV I have seen, I have noted no connection between being nice and being a Reality TV star.


THat would be a swing and a miss for you.

 

[Correll]

It was a reference back to your statement that the anti-immigration populist only got one seat.

Considering the utter disaster your immigration policy is, for that to happen, that has to be a problem in your system.

I refuse to believe that that policy can actually be the Will of the People.

You are assuming that our immigration policy is an utter disaster. Nobody is pretending that everything is perfect but things are generally fine in the uk where there is an instinctive aversion to extreme politics of any kind.

You wouldnt condemn the whole Italian American community for the actions of the Mafia would you ?

I am not assuming anything.

I have read up on the recurring problem your nation is having with industrial scale Rape Rings and I conclude based on that, and the pathetic way that your government handles these problems that your immigration policy is a utter disaster.

There is no way that any population would choose this course for themselves.

This is obviously the result of an out of touch, out of ideas Political Class combined with a broken political process that has muted the Will of the People for redress.

Even in the areas that these crimes occurred there was not enough support for extremist politics.

Your conclusions are based on assumptions that are not based on fact.

The people involved in these crimes have been charged,tried and imprisoned. There have been enquiries into these incidents. What more would you have the government do ?

I realise that this doesnt fit with your agenda but there you have it.

Change the polices that led to the crimes and led to them being ignored for years.


I made no assumptions.

I explained my reasoning. YOu have been able to point out no flaws in it.

Perhaps you do not understand the word "assumption" ?

Look it must be a bit galling when the actual facts dont fit your bigot agenda but thats the way it is. There is no reasoning in your assumptions and no insight.You have a blinkered narrow vision of Britain and do not have the intellect to question your world view. You need to read some different books.

There was certainly reasoning in my explanation and quite a bit of insight.

You certainly have NOT listed any "Assumptions" of mine that you find in error, nor have you offered any errors in my reasoning.

Simple denial is not a rebuttal, nor even a challenge.

THat you offer insults instead of reasoned disagreement reflects on YOUR lack of intellect, not mine.

 

[Correll]

The BBC has been anti-American, anti-Christian and biased for years.

We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News

...At the secret meeting in London last month, which was hosted by veteran broadcaster Sue Lawley, BBC executives admitted the corporation is dominated by homosexuals and people from ethnic minorities, deliberately promotes multiculturalism, is anti-American, anti-countryside and more sensitive to the feelings of Muslims than Christians.

One veteran BBC executive said: 'There was widespread acknowledgement that we may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness.

'Unfortunately, much of it is so deeply embedded in the BBC's culture, that it is very hard to change it.'...

We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News

Old news, but still true today, IMHO.

I have heard of such reports. Thank you for listing a good one.

 

[Correll]

Trump's impact is not because of his money, it's because of his message.


He is speaking what a lot of people have wanted to hear for a long time and have NOT gotten from their political class.

It is a good thing.

THe UK? Google UK Rape Rings and ask why yourself how well an anti-immigration populist would do in a presidential election there.

We just had an election and that guy won a grand total of one seat. People in the UK are laughing at Trump rather than taking him seriously. To be honest Donald Duck has more credibility than Donald Trump.

Which raises all kinds of question about what is wrong with your election process.


Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Widespread organised child sexual abuse took place in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England, between 1997 and 2013. Local investigations into the abuse began in 1999, although some reports were never finalised or made public by the authorities.[1] In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve.[2] A subsequent investigation by The Times reported that the child sex exploitation was much more widespread, and the Home Affairs Select Committee criticised the South Yorkshire Police force and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council for their handling of the abuse.


...It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men.[7] Abuses described by the report included abduction, rape, torture and sex trafficking of children.[6]
Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism

There is no way that is accurately reflecting the Will of the People when you have scandals like that occurring.

I dont think that anybody pretends that there is a perfect system in place in Britain. Your last sentence is beyond me. Perhaps you could explain your point in simpler terms.

It was a reference back to your statement that the anti-immigration populist only got one seat.

Considering the utter disaster your immigration policy is, for that to happen, that has to be a problem in your system.

I refuse to believe that that policy can actually be the Will of the People.

Quite:

...Much as I loathe the United Kingdom Independence Party (Ukip), the fact that it won 3.9 million votes in the election but has only emerged with one MP is a national scandal and an affront to democracy. Its voters are entitled to commensurate representation in parliament....

I loathe Ukip but one MP for 3.9 million votes is a national disgrace

Interesting link.

Thank you.

 

[IcebergSlim]

For how many terms did she practice her love?

Several.

Her career in Alaska politics certainly does not seem the work of a moron.

She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight...

YOu disagreed with her policies and her ideology.

I understand that as a liberal that you assume that means she is a moron.

But I do not share your belief system and will not allow it to define my reality .

Her career was impressive and not the career of a moron, despite the fact that she made different choices than you would.

I think increasing Wasilla's debt, in 6 years, by a factor of 22 is well beyond "interpretation".... But it is totes Supply Side...

YOu disagreed with her policies and her ideology.

I understand that as a liberal that you assume that means she is a moron.

But I do not share your belief system and will not allow it to define my reality .

Her career was impressive and not the career of a moron, despite the fact that she made different choices than you would.

No......my judgement relies on what I hear coming out of her mouth.....you choose to make a virtue of a decidedly mixed record as mayor, and an unfinished stint as Governor... Which you, for no discernible reason, declare " impressive"....

 

[IcebergSlim]

She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight...

Palin Endorses Trump, But Not His Economic Policies
Summary of Sarah Palin's Economic Views

As Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin demonstrated her position on energy and oil prices, a balanced budget, cutting taxes, and spurring economic growth. However, this position didn't give her experience on many important national topics, such as free trade, military spending and any stimulus to the financial crisis.

Palin Supported a Balanced Budget and Tax Relief
Palin's commitment to fiscal responsibility would be good for the economy. Before becoming Governor, Palin was Mayor of Wasilla, where she cut property taxes 60% while spurring economic growth. She sold a $2.1 million corporate jet bought by her predecessor, and cut $231 million from Alaska's $550 million capital budget. She would try to cut the federal debt.
(Source: WSJ, "Jet That Helped Defeat an Alaska Governor Is Sold," August 25, 2007; Alaska Journal of Commerce, "Lawmakers cringe over governor's deep budget cuts," July 8, 2007)

That's fine.

One of the major themes of the Left is that Trump is Evul. (racist, greedy, whatever)

Palin is a very nice and likable person.

Her endorsement will weaken that line of attack.

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

From what little reality TV I have seen, I have noted no connection between being nice and being a Reality TV star.


THat would be a swing and a miss for you.

On what do you base your assessment of her as "likeable"?
Or even "nice"?

 

[Correll]

Several.

Her career in Alaska politics certainly does not seem the work of a moron.

She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight...

YOu disagreed with her policies and her ideology.

I understand that as a liberal that you assume that means she is a moron.

But I do not share your belief system and will not allow it to define my reality .

Her career was impressive and not the career of a moron, despite the fact that she made different choices than you would.

I think increasing Wasilla's debt, in 6 years, by a factor of 22 is well beyond "interpretation".... But it is totes Supply Side...

YOu disagreed with her policies and her ideology.

I understand that as a liberal that you assume that means she is a moron.

But I do not share your belief system and will not allow it to define my reality .

Her career was impressive and not the career of a moron, despite the fact that she made different choices than you would.

No......my judgement relies on what I hear coming out of her mouth.....you choose to make a virtue of a decidedly mixed record as mayor, and an unfinished stint as Governor... Which you, for no discernible reason, declare " impressive"....

YOur judgement is partisan and biased and not very credible.

Her endorsement will be a plus for Trump for the reason that Palin is a likable national figure.

YOur belief system that she is a moron is only of interest to other lib partisan hacks.

WHo would not vote for the GOP candidate no matter what. SO no lose there.

 

[Correll]

She served less than one term as Governor......as mayor of Wasilla she was fiscally reckless......which probably made her appealing to the Supply Side Hucksters who shoehorned her into the political spotlight...

Palin Endorses Trump, But Not His Economic Policies
Summary of Sarah Palin's Economic Views

As Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin demonstrated her position on energy and oil prices, a balanced budget, cutting taxes, and spurring economic growth. However, this position didn't give her experience on many important national topics, such as free trade, military spending and any stimulus to the financial crisis.

Palin Supported a Balanced Budget and Tax Relief
Palin's commitment to fiscal responsibility would be good for the economy. Before becoming Governor, Palin was Mayor of Wasilla, where she cut property taxes 60% while spurring economic growth. She sold a $2.1 million corporate jet bought by her predecessor, and cut $231 million from Alaska's $550 million capital budget. She would try to cut the federal debt.
(Source: WSJ, "Jet That Helped Defeat an Alaska Governor Is Sold," August 25, 2007; Alaska Journal of Commerce, "Lawmakers cringe over governor's deep budget cuts," July 8, 2007)

That's fine.

One of the major themes of the Left is that Trump is Evul. (racist, greedy, whatever)

Palin is a very nice and likable person.

Her endorsement will weaken that line of attack.

One might think that someone so nice and likeable would not have crashed and burned as a Reality TV star in such a short time...

According to a recent poll, her yammering is less welcome to Americans than the blatherskite issuing from Jesse Jackson....

From what little reality TV I have seen, I have noted no connection between being nice and being a Reality TV star.


THat would be a swing and a miss for you.

On what do you base your assessment of her as "likeable"?
Or even "nice"?

My personal impression of her mostly.

Her popularity, back before you libs spent years smearing her.