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What a stupid example. That is not an example of the scientific theory of evolution being wedged where it doesn't belong. The word "evolution" has its own meaning and is used in other contexts. Just as if I would call individual units in a collection of units "quanta", but would not in any way be injecting the theory of quantum mechanics into the discussion.Notice how they shoehorn the word "evolution" onto every aspect of existence?
1. Evolution has Evidence. Lots.
God/s have none.
2. The universe is NOT "so orderly and comprehensible.."
it's a mess.
Galaxies colliding, Stars exploding, causing unimaginable destruction.
Billions of planets at a time losing life if they have any.
3. You're mixing and matching the Universe with Evolution pilgrim.
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IOW, you were 100% Refuted and Stumped.This post is so bad that to respond to it with anything other than a single line of condensation and Muttley laughing would be giving it far more respect than it deserves.
There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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Would evidence for your 'god' be better than for anyone's else's 'god'?It depends on what one is willing to accept as "evidence" of God. To me, there is a preponderance of evidence to support the existence of our creator, aka "God".
THIS Is what's wrong with it.Let's go paragraph by paragraph.
"""At the heart of this debate is whether or not the material world was created by spirit. If the material world were not created by spirit, then everything which has occurred since the beginning of space and time are products of the material world. Everything which is incorporeal proceeded from the corporeal. There is no middle ground. There is no other option. Either the material world was created by spirit or it wasn't. All other options will simplify to one of these two lowest common denominators which are mutually exclusive.""""
What's false about this, dummy?
This is probably THEE #1 rationale for those arguing for a god on msg boards.
"Well then, did all this stuff just appear?".. "how did ___ if not god?"
And we can see several Fallacious OPs currently employing this boner.
If we can't explain it/explain it Yet, it must be 'god.'
The same Bogus/Failed 'logic' used for creating Fire, Lightning, Sun, Fertility, and Ten thousand other 'gods.'
1. God of the gaps - RationalWiki
God of the gaps(or a divine fallacy) is logical fallacy that occurs when Goddidit (or a variant) is invoked to explain some natural phenomena that science cannot (at the time of the argument). This concept is similar to what systems theorists refer to as an "explanatory principle." "God of the gaps" is a bad argument not only on logical grounds, but on empirical grounds: there is a long history of "gaps" being filled and the gap for God thus getting smaller and smaller, suggesting "we don't know Yet" as an alternative that works Better in practice; naturalistic explanations for still-mysterious phenomena are always possible, especially in the future where more information may be uncovered.[1]The God of the Gaps is a didit Fallacy and an ad hoc Fallacy, as well as an Argument from Incredulity or an Argument from Ignorance, and is thus an informal fallacy...
2. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of...pe_of_argument
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[13][14] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:*There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.*Therefore the cause must be supernatural.One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[15]God-of-the-gaps arguments have been Discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the Leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge Increases, the dominion of God Decreases...[4][5][16][17]
There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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That's not a very mensa like reply, dummy.THIS Is what's wrong with it.Let's go paragraph by paragraph.
"""At the heart of this debate is whether or not the material world was created by spirit. If the material world were not created by spirit, then everything which has occurred since the beginning of space and time are products of the material world. Everything which is incorporeal proceeded from the corporeal. There is no middle ground. There is no other option. Either the material world was created by spirit or it wasn't. All other options will simplify to one of these two lowest common denominators which are mutually exclusive.""""
What's false about this, dummy?
Your post is one giant GOD OF THE GAPS FALLACY.
IOW, IF WE DON'T KNOW/KNOW YET, IT MUST BE GOD.
WRONG.
That's same idiot's rationale used for 10,000 other Debunked 'gods"' Fire, Lightening, Fertility, etc.
SEE THE OP.
Because we don't know/don't know yet, you claim the unknown "Must be spirit." $&&%$
That's illogical/non sequitur/Stoopid.
Further, You post like a 10 year old and bury-em,-with-BS artist.
Posting/bludgeoning 5 or 6 'responses' in a row, unable to organize your thoughts into a single coherent reply AND trying to drown your opponent rather debate him.
This is probably THEE #1 rationale for those arguing for a god on msg boards.
"Well then, did all this stuff just appear?".. "how did ___ if not god?"
And we can see several Fallacious OPs currently employing this boner.
If we can't explain it/explain it Yet, it must be 'god.'
The same Bogus/Failed 'logic' used for creating Fire, Lightning, Sun, Fertility, and Ten thousand other 'gods.'
1. God of the gaps - RationalWikiGod of the gaps(or a divine fallacy) is logical fallacy that occurs when Goddidit (or a variant) is invoked to explain some natural phenomena that science cannot (at the time of the argument). This concept is similar to what systems theorists refer to as an "explanatory principle." "God of the gaps" is a bad argument not only on logical grounds, but on empirical grounds: there is a long history of "gaps" being filled and the gap for God thus getting smaller and smaller, suggesting "we don't know Yet" as an alternative that works Better in practice; naturalistic explanations for still-mysterious phenomena are always possible, especially in the future where more information may be uncovered.[1]The God of the Gaps is a didit Fallacy and an ad hoc Fallacy, as well as an Argument from Incredulity or an Argument from Ignorance, and is thus an informal fallacy...
2. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of...pe_of_argument
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[13][14] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:*There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.*Therefore the cause must be supernatural.One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[15]God-of-the-gaps arguments have been Discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the Leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge Increases, the dominion of God Decreases...[4][5][16][17]
There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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They used to have so many gaps to fill. Now all they have left is, "Well, what about BEFORE the Big Bang, huh? Huh?!?!"This is probably THEE #1 rationale for those arguing for a god on msg boards.
"Well then, did all this stuff just appear?".. "how did ___ if not god?"
And we can see several Fallacious OPs currently employing this boner.
If we can't explain it/explain it Yet, it must be 'god.'
The same Bogus/Failed 'logic' used for creating Fire, Lightning, Sun, Fertility, and Ten thousand other 'gods.'
1. God of the gaps - RationalWiki
God of the gaps(or a divine fallacy) is logical fallacy that occurs when Goddidit (or a variant) is invoked to explain some natural phenomena that science cannot (at the time of the argument). This concept is similar to what systems theorists refer to as an "explanatory principle." "God of the gaps" is a bad argument not only on logical grounds, but on empirical grounds: there is a long history of "gaps" being filled and the gap for God thus getting smaller and smaller, suggesting "we don't know Yet" as an alternative that works Better in practice; naturalistic explanations for still-mysterious phenomena are always possible, especially in the future where more information may be uncovered.[1]The God of the Gaps is a didit Fallacy and an ad hoc Fallacy, as well as an Argument from Incredulity or an Argument from Ignorance, and is thus an informal fallacy...
2. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of...pe_of_argument
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[13][14] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:*There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.*Therefore the cause must be supernatural.One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[15]God-of-the-gaps arguments have been Discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the Leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge Increases, the dominion of God Decreases...[4][5][16][17]
There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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Actual evidence doesn't depend on anyone's perspective.There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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It depends on what one is willing to accept as "evidence" of God. To me, there is a preponderance of evidence to support the existence of our creator, aka "God".
There was consciousness without form. Because it can't be energy or matter.They used to have so many gaps to fill. Now all they have left is, "Well, what about BEFORE the Big Bang, huh? Huh?!?!"This is probably THEE #1 rationale for those arguing for a god on msg boards.
"Well then, did all this stuff just appear?".. "how did ___ if not god?"
And we can see several Fallacious OPs currently employing this boner.
If we can't explain it/explain it Yet, it must be 'god.'
The same Bogus/Failed 'logic' used for creating Fire, Lightning, Sun, Fertility, and Ten thousand other 'gods.'
1. God of the gaps - RationalWiki
God of the gaps(or a divine fallacy) is logical fallacy that occurs when Goddidit (or a variant) is invoked to explain some natural phenomena that science cannot (at the time of the argument). This concept is similar to what systems theorists refer to as an "explanatory principle." "God of the gaps" is a bad argument not only on logical grounds, but on empirical grounds: there is a long history of "gaps" being filled and the gap for God thus getting smaller and smaller, suggesting "we don't know Yet" as an alternative that works Better in practice; naturalistic explanations for still-mysterious phenomena are always possible, especially in the future where more information may be uncovered.[1]The God of the Gaps is a didit Fallacy and an ad hoc Fallacy, as well as an Argument from Incredulity or an Argument from Ignorance, and is thus an informal fallacy...
2. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of...pe_of_argument
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[13][14] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:*There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.*Therefore the cause must be supernatural.One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[15]God-of-the-gaps arguments have been Discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the Leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge Increases, the dominion of God Decreases...[4][5][16][17]
There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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That doesn't say much about you since you can't defeat a childish argument, now does it?These poor religious nutters... for centuries they had such a robust, fertile area of ignorance in which to shove their whimsical voodoo. God of the trees, god of the weather, god of the tides, god of the black death...
Now they have nothing but childish first-mover arguments and ontological parlor tricks. And the funniest part is that they call these things "proof" (see forthcoming pages of copypasta word salads from ding the plagiarizer).
Really!There was consciousness without form. Because it can't be energy or matter.
You mean besides energy and matter can't be an eternal cause and that the laws of nature make the universe an intelligence creating machine?Really!There was consciousness without form. Because it can't be energy or matter.
Any EVIDENCE?
Or just your particular religious Faith/ (Faith: belief without evidence)
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Are you talking about the "gap theory" of creation? As far as I'm concerned, it is THE explanationThis is probably THEE #1 rationale for those arguing for a god on msg boards.
"Well then, did all this stuff just appear?".. "how did ___ if not god?"
And we can see several Fallacious OPs currently employing this boner.
If we can't explain it/explain it Yet, it must be 'god.'
The same Bogus/Failed 'logic' used for creating Fire, Lightning, Sun, Fertility, and Ten thousand other 'gods.'
1. God of the gaps - RationalWiki
God of the gaps(or a divine fallacy) is logical fallacy that occurs when Goddidit (or a variant) is invoked to explain some natural phenomena that science cannot (at the time of the argument). This concept is similar to what systems theorists refer to as an "explanatory principle." "God of the gaps" is a bad argument not only on logical grounds, but on empirical grounds: there is a long history of "gaps" being filled and the gap for God thus getting smaller and smaller, suggesting "we don't know Yet" as an alternative that works Better in practice; naturalistic explanations for still-mysterious phenomena are always possible, especially in the future where more information may be uncovered.[1]The God of the Gaps is a didit Fallacy and an ad hoc Fallacy, as well as an Argument from Incredulity or an Argument from Ignorance, and is thus an informal fallacy...
2. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of...pe_of_argument
The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[13][14] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:*There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.*Therefore the cause must be supernatural.One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[15]God-of-the-gaps arguments have been Discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the Leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge Increases, the dominion of God Decreases...[4][5][16][17]
There is NO proof, or even evidence for god/s, just fallacious god-of-the-gaps inferences.
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Yet you claim to have done so with your sky daddy. You cant escape your own dishonesty and irony if you try.You will never fill the gap when it comes to the question of how the universe came to exist.
That's what they said about Fire... Lightning, fertility, etcYou will never fill the gap when it comes to the question of how the universe came to exist.
