God of the Gaps (well then, how did...")

[abu afak]

For the record I hope there is a god.
And if the stars line up one night and spell out "VISHNU" I would be thrilled to finally have some answers.
While Tens of Millions of 3 BILLION WRONG Christians and Muslims (and more) would commit Hari Kiri.

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[abu afak]

Very trite OP.

If 'trite" it's only because I made it so.
Most here (certainly including you) had never heard the term.

There was another poseur who used to post here who thought himself very clever for blathering endlessly about the “god of the gaps.”

You goofy lying POS. This thread is 7 Yeas old, more than 4 Years Before you Joined!! LOL.
It was bumped the month after you Joined (Oct 2021) and many times before and since.

While it is, of course, true that claiming that “the” answer “must be” God is not a necessarily valid conclusion, it is also a fallacy to say that “science” doesn’t know “yet” is proof that “God” is not the answer.

I did NOT say there is "Proof that god is not the answer."
Just again, we don't know Yet. (and it remains true)
You are too stupid and Deceptive to debate me.

(Last word away!!)
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[ChemEngineer]

Words are wind.

Show us your published science.

You have none?

[Ignorant vulgarity deleted for the sake of decent, thoughtful people.]

I don't make the rules.

You have no IDEA of any rules.

I had to take "Fort Fun" (sic) off ignore to see why ding remarked to him so pointedly.
Having done so, I see that ding was completely justified in his response.

My "published science" appears underneath every post I have. A medical doctor called it "beyond incredible." A dentist said, "I had to skim over some of the chapters as they were too advanced for me."

I originated the phrase, "profound fortuitous interdependencies" and gave numerous examples 5.of them in everyday life, the better to understand the brilliant creations of Nature's God, as He is called in our Declaration of Independence.

If atheism is so wonderful, then why:
1. Are atheists so miserable and hateful,
2. Do atheists commit suicide at a rate much higher than Christians and Jews,
3. Are there so few atheists relative to the billion several hundred million Christians around the world,
4. Do science, and archaeology, and history, and statistics continue to present more evidence validating the Holy Bible instead of the nihilistic nonsense of atheism,
5. Must atheists make outrageous claims that are utterly false, particularly "science and religion are mutually exclusive," and "fundies are stupid, but we're oh so smart,"
6. Do atheists have so few children and get married less than Christians and Jews, when the benefits of marriage have been scientifically demonstrated repeatedly,
7. Were 85% of the Nobel Laureates in the 20th Century Christians and Jews, rather than atheists,
8. Does math prove that no natural explanation for the original construction of one large polypeptide, much less 20,000 of them in the human body, is even possible, as shown in one of my websites here?

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[abu afak]

You have no IDEA of any rules.

7. Were 85% of the Nobel Laureates in the 20th Century Christians and Jews, rather than atheists,

Lying again.
You have to CLAIM you put HALF of Every mb you post on, on Ignore because they/We totally Bust your Lying for Jesus.

I shut down a thread of yours already Refuting this Lie.
(you do Read my posts)

• Apr 7, 2023

The overwhelming majority of Nobel Prize Laureates in the sciences are Christians and Jews, NOT hateful atheists like you and Richard Dawkins.

Indeed, most of those Nobel winners were NOT like you: Literal Evolution-denying fanatics. Some worked in the field or used it. They were Born 'Christian' or 'Ashkenazi Jewish.' IOW, just of Euro descent
How many were Literalist of the hundreds? 1-5?


"Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God
People with higher IQs are less likely to believe in God, according to a new study.
By Graeme Paton, Education Editor, 11 Jun 2008
Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God' - Telegraph
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A decline in religious observance over the last century was directly linked to a rise in average intelligence, he claimed. But the conclusions - in a paper for the academic journal Intelligence - have been branded "simplistic" by critics. Professor Lynn, who has provoked controversy in the past with research linking intelligence to race and sex, said university academics were less likely to believe in God than almost anyone else.
A survey of Royal Society fellows found that only 3.3% believed in God - at a time when 68.5% of the general UK population described themselves as believers.
A separate poll in the 90s found only 7% of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believed in God.
Professor Lynn said most primary school children believed in God, but as they entered adolescence - and their intelligence increased - many started to have doubts. He told Times Higher Education magazine:.. I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population. Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God."..."


And even those who believed in god probably few (to none) were literalist like you.

You did not (couldn't) answer anything I said to Jackson, or ANY other post I ever made to you. Thus [the Lie) Ignore.

You remain completely NON-conversant on the subject and your main tactic (ie the OP) is post PLAGIARIZING quote mining lists from Kweationist websites.
Which BTW contain many Fabrications, Uncontexted or short.....quotes, etc.


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[abu afak]

You have no IDEA of any rules.

7. Were 85% of the Nobel Laureates in the 20th Century Christians and Jews, rather than atheists,

• Mar 13, 2024

...The overwhelming Majority of Nobel Laureates in science are of Judeo-Christian faith.
They believe in God. " Which God"? Nature's God, as He is called in our Declaration of
Independence. Leftists, atheists and agnostics think they're smarter than Nobel Laureates
in sciences? What hubris. What unbelievable arrogance and pride. And the Bible says
pride goeth before a fall.

Judeo-Christians aren't "holier" than atheists and agnostics. We don't hold ourselves to be
supremely intelligent, as they do. God forgives us our sins. Good acts don't get anyone into heaven.

The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell would be great reading for
Leftists/atheists/agnostics. So would watching A Matter of Gravity by Professor John Len
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[Grumblenuts]

Look at the most fundamental equations in physics - they express relationships between things that already exist.

Please go ahead and use some of those fundamental physics equations to try and express the relationship between what you see and hear in the following video clip, Sherlock:

 

[ding]

For the record I hope there is a god.
And if the stars line up one night and spell out "VISHNU" I would be thrilled to finally have some answers.
While Tens of Millions of 3 BILLION WRONG Christians and Muslims (and more) would commit Hari Kiri.

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Confusing different perceptions of God for different Gods is a sign of low IQ.

 

[ding]

Please go ahead and use some of those fundamental physics equations to try and express the relationship between what you see and hear in the following video clip, Sherlock:

Do you suppose there is no cause and effect relationship? Do you think it is magic?

 

[Grumblenuts]

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I've been published twice, dummy. You?

You have no education or experience or published science in any relevant field. And when you just admit it (like you just did), all this goes much more smoothly.

Nobody had to give a single thought to anything you say or think about this topic.
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[Sherlock Holmes]

Indeed. No god of the gaps could exist until humans invented some to explain everything they couldn't explain otherwise. No fallen tree could exist in a forest unless some human was around to hear its fall. I happen to have a spare bridge for sale CHEAP! Hurry before the price changes due to scientific aspects beyond my control.

Good, at least you seem to agree there are gaps, we're getting somewhere with you, slow but better than a closed mind.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

For the record I hope there is a god.
And if the stars line up one night and spell out "VISHNU" I would be thrilled to finally have some answers.
While Tens of Millions of 3 BILLION WRONG Christians and Muslims (and more) would commit Hari Kiri.

Lets not conflate creation with religion, that's a common trick but it won't pass unnoticed with me in the room.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Please go ahead and use some of those fundamental physics equations to try and express the relationship between what you see and hear in the following video clip, Sherlock:

Yes, our universe is a wondrous thing indeed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Confusing different perceptions of God for different Gods is a sign of low IQ.

On the contrary, insisting your god is the right one and everyone else is wrong is the low IQ , ego driven nonsense we expect and hear from every faither, when talking about their favorite god fetish.

To think that the brains of normal.people are or should be somehow bound by your fetish is kind of funny.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don't have time to listen to her entire recording, but I agree that public perceptions are based on trust rather than understanding. This is why I advocate that we should teach philosophy to our young minds as they do in parts of Europe.

Many people don't grasp that science is not about truth, it's all about the ability to make accurate predictions, One understands something if one has an ability to predict the future and that's what science gives us, that's it's utility.

Science exists because the universe happens to be rationally intelligible, that intelligibility, that orderly structure is a mystery, not explicable by science.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

On the contrary, insisting your god is the right one and everyone else is wrong is the low IQ , ego driven nonsense we expect and hear from every faither, when talking about their favorite god fetish.

To think that the brains of normal.people are or should be somehow bound by your fetish is kind of funny.

You're doing what many atheists do, using the shortcomings and problems in religion to discredit the proposition that the universe was created but it's a false dichotomy. This thread is not about religion but science and the limitations it has to explain things.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Good, at least you seem to agree there are gaps, we're getting somewhere

By "we" you must mean you and Dr. Watson. Stuffing less essence of ego and imagination into that pipe could only help. Of course there are gaps. Quick, go fetch a quote from anyone here hinting at any non-exitance of gaps.. Yep, no one here but ding could possibly be that dumb.

Yes, our universe is a wondrous thing indeed.

Failed to address the question and such flattery will get you nowhere.

I don't have time to listen to her entire recording, but

Doesn't matter. Skip to the end. She won her game! Amazing demonstration of multi-tasking.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

By "we" you must mean you and Dr. Watson. Stuffing less essence of ego and imagination into that pipe could only help. Of course there are gaps. Quick, go fetch a quote from anyone here hinting at any non-exitance of gaps.. Yep, no one here but ding could possibly be that dumb.

Right but atheism is a belief that all "gaps" can eventually be explained naturalistically, that's a belief, a choice in how one interprets what they observe, which IMHO is just a different kind of "faith".

Failed to address the question and such flattery will get you nowhere.

You mean you want to know how that flame/sound phenomenon works?

Doesn't matter. Skip to the end. She won her game! Amazing demonstration of multi-tasking.

Nope, not getting it, she seems to just be unhappy at how people embrace an unproven idea and regard it as true, am I missing anything there?

 

[BackAgain]

If 'trite" it's only because I made it so.

Yep.

 

[Grumblenuts]

atheism is a belief

Fact. Atheism is lack of belief. Look it up and enlighten yourself, Sherlock.

You mean you want to know how that flame/sound phenomenon works?

Yes, as you suggested, "Look at the most fundamental equations in physics" --
I humbly invite you to "go ahead and try" explaining that phenomenon using those equations..