Global warming tipping points

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bullshit, you lying piece of shit.

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Are you another dipshit who does not understand the difference in the Celsius and Fahrenheit temperature scales?

 

[Flash]

They do not understand that the earth is a buffered system due to the size of our oceans. That buffer must be overwhelmed before runaway anything can be achieved. We are far from that system being overwhelmed. Physics is not their friend. The earth is pushing off energy at the same rate as it receives it. The AGW hypothesis dies with that understanding as CO2 can only momentarily slow energy release but cannot stop its increase.

Water vapor is not enhancing heat retention according to satellite measurements and no mid tropospheric hot spot is evidenced.

Everything that should prove the AGW hypothesis, denies it.

The impact of atmospheric CO2 in the range of 400-500 PPM to the greenhouse effect is nowhere near the amount that these Environmental Wackos claim it is. Mainly because of the buffering effect of the oceans as you mention. Also, atmospheric chemistry is much more complex that most scientists think it is.

The earth has been warmer when the CO2 levels were lower and the earth has been cooler when the CO2 levels were higher than it is now. In addition, the data indicates that CO2 increases usually lag temperature rises. The Environmental Wackos always ignore this.

What we mostly get out of the dishonest climate scientists that take grant money and feed fraudulent and cherry picked data into some stupid computer model is some doomsday predictions that never comes true.

Climate change is real but AGW is a scam.

 

[jc456]

A recent study find the following climate tipping points nearing certainty.
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World on brink of five ‘disastrous’ climate tipping points, study finds

Giant ice sheets, ocean currents and permafrost regions may already have passed point of irreversible change

www.theguardian.com

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7950

But, of course, none of these actually look threatening, do they. And since this is all based on lies, there is NOTHING to worry about. Right?

I'm still waiting to hear what the threat is?

 

[Oddball]

A recent study find the following climate tipping points nearing certainty.
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World on brink of five ‘disastrous’ climate tipping points, study finds

Giant ice sheets, ocean currents and permafrost regions may already have passed point of irreversible change

www.theguardian.com

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7950

But, of course, none of these actually look threatening, do they. And since this is all based on lies, there is NOTHING to worry about. Right?

 

[Crick]

The impact of atmospheric CO2 in the range of 400-500 PPM to the greenhouse effect is nowhere near the amount that these Environmental Wackos claim it is. Mainly because of the buffering effect of the oceans as you mention. Also, atmospheric chemistry is much more complex that most scientists think it is.

The earth has been warmer when the CO2 levels were lower and the earth has been cooler when the CO2 levels were higher than it is now. In addition, the data indicates that CO2 increases usually lag temperature rises. The Environmental Wackos always ignore this.

What we mostly get out of the dishonest climate scientists that take grant money and feed fraudulent and cherry picked data into some stupid computer model is some doomsday predictions that never comes true.

Climate change is real but AGW is a scam.

I love to see Dunning-Krueger demonstrated like this. What's your doctorate in Flash? Are you one of Billy-Boy's fellow atmospheric physicists?

 

[jc456]

I love to see Dunning-Krueger demonstrated like this. What's your doctorate in Flash?

just curious, did Thomas Edison have a doctorate? If I recall, he was a genius.

 

[Oddball]

I love to see Dunning-Krueger demonstrated like this. What's your doctorate in Flash? Are you one of Billy-Boy's fellow atmospheric physicists?

You're a walking, talking, posting example of Dunning-Krueger....All hyperventilating hysteria based upon appeal to authority, without a single independent, analytical thought in your head.

 

[Flash]

I love to see Dunning-Krueger demonstrated like this. What's your doctorate in Flash? Are you one of Billy-Boy's fellow atmospheric physicists?

I am not a climate expert but I do have an advanced degree in Environmental Engineering. I am a PE. I actually know what real pollution is because I had 30 year career cleaning it up.

I have also taught courses in Environmental Science on the university level in my post retirement life. I covered climate change in the class. I did quite a bit of real research before teaching the classes because I wanted to get it right..

I am probably much better read on the subject than you are.

Also, being a real Engineer I know how to recognize science bullshit when I see it.

Whenever I have taken the time to run down the premise for these AGW claims I run into bullshit. Either the basic research was flawed, cherry picked or, many times, outright lies.

I believe in climate change but this crap about AGW is a scam.

Too bad you are one of these Moon Bat idiots that fall for it.

Believing the research climate scientist telling you that man is affecting the climate is like believing a Socialist Economist that tells you that increased taxation and redistribution of income is good for the economy. Like Biden telling you that increased government spending will cure inflation.

 

[Billy_Bob]

You're a walking, talking, posting example of Dunning-Krueger....All hyperventilating hysteria based upon appeal to authority, without a single independent, analytical thought in your head.

It is all the alarmists have anymore. You just described almost all of those who claim to be alarmists.

 

[ReinyDays]

Climate change is real but AGW is a scam.

Funny ... I believe the opposite ... AGW is real, it's climate change that's the hoax ...

 

[westwall]

Funny ... I believe the opposite ... AGW is real, it's climate change that's the hoax ...

No evidence for AGW. Lots for climate change.

 

[frigidweirdo]

A recent study find the following climate tipping points nearing certainty.
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World on brink of five ‘disastrous’ climate tipping points, study finds

Giant ice sheets, ocean currents and permafrost regions may already have passed point of irreversible change

www.theguardian.com

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7950

But, of course, none of these actually look threatening, do they. And since this is all based on lies, there is NOTHING to worry about. Right?

Thing is, this has happened often in the past. Every 100,000 years or so. It tips, and tips back again.

 

[ReinyDays]

No evidence for AGW. Lots for climate change.

Where has climate changed? ...

AGW Theory is rather broad and all-encompassing ... some parts are easily demonstrated, clear cut a forest and pave with asphalt ... this "urban heat island" effect is well entrenched in science and this heating is strictly caused by human activities ... I'll leave it to you to research how deforestation is demonstrated to cause heating due to man's hand ... these parts of AGW Theory are confirmed to be true ...

I know you mean the CO2 component ... and we do have CO2's emission spectrum which clearly shows her "theoretical" ability to warm the atmosphere ... the question is "how much"? ... as far as I know, there is no way to demonstrate how much warming we should see right now ... we'd need to spend more money on better thermometers ...

We have qualitative evidence of CO2 warming the planet ... and you'd know that's valid science if you've taken a chemistry class ... that's a legendary experiment at all the Colleges of Science in all the world's universities (that have a separate College of Science) ...

Homework for today: Pick any point on the surface of the Earth, tell me what the climate was 100 years ago, what the climate is today, and what the climate is expected to be 100 years from now ... if all three are the same, then nothing has changed ... and if this is true for all the points on the Earth's surface, then climate isn't changing anywhere ...

It's a hoax ... climate hasn't changed in central North America in 100 million years ... even the Great Inland Sea experienced rain equally throughout the year, exactly like our Midwest today ... and for the exact same reasons ...

 

[westwall]

Where has climate changed? ...

AGW Theory is rather broad and all-encompassing ... some parts are easily demonstrated, clear cut a forest and pave with asphalt ... this "urban heat island" effect is well entrenched in science and this heating is strictly caused by human activities ... I'll leave it to you to research how deforestation is demonstrated to cause heating due to man's hand ... these parts of AGW Theory are confirmed to be true ...

I know you mean the CO2 component ... and we do have CO2's emission spectrum which clearly shows her "theoretical" ability to warm the atmosphere ... the question is "how much"? ... as far as I know, there is no way to demonstrate how much warming we should see right now ... we'd need to spend more money on better thermometers ...

We have qualitative evidence of CO2 warming the planet ... and you'd know that's valid science if you've taken a chemistry class ... that's a legendary experiment at all the Colleges of Science in all the world's universities (that have a separate College of Science) ...

Homework for today: Pick any point on the surface of the Earth, tell me what the climate was 100 years ago, what the climate is today, and what the climate is expected to be 100 years from now ... if all three are the same, then nothing has changed ... and if this is true for all the points on the Earth's surface, then climate isn't changing anywhere ...

It's a hoax ... climate hasn't changed in central North America in 100 million years ... even the Great Inland Sea experienced rain equally throughout the year, exactly like our Midwest today ... and for the exact same reasons ...

Climate is always changing. It always has. Just 12,000 years ago the place where my house sits was under a mile thick slab of ice.

What changed? How is it possible I could build my house where previously there was a continental glacier?

The climate changed.

 

[ReinyDays]

Climate is always changing. It always has. Just 12,000 years ago the place where my house sits was under a mile thick slab of ice.

What changed? How is it possible I could build my house where previously there was a continental glacier?

The climate changed.

Which of the meteorological parameters are you referring to? ... how does a glacier effect barometric pressure, relative humidty, wind speed and direction, blackbody temperature or precipitation? ... I'm sorry, ground cover isn't part of the atmosphere, it's not considered when defining terrestrial climates ...

Nevada only reaches up to the Forty-Second Parallel ... Mexican Territory ... which ice sheet covered you? ...

Did the Sierra Nevada mountains exist 12,000 years ago? ... if so, then you had a "desert" climate back then ... Köppen Class BWk, with Mediterranean influences ... if global average is 10ºC lower, your coldest month will still average below 0ºC ... still Class BWk ... so what change are you talking about? ...

 

[jc456]

Climate is always changing. It always has. Just 12,000 years ago the place where my house sits was under a mile thick slab of ice.

What changed? How is it possible I could build my house where previously there was a continental glacier?

The climate changed.

it changed before humans were there. So since you have been alive, where has climate changed? I'm not referring to seasonal climate change. That happens every year since I've been on this planet.

 

[Billy_Bob]

it changed before humans were there. So since you have been alive, where has climate changed? I'm not referring to seasonal climate change. That happens every year since I've been on this planet.

The point is, It will change again soon and nothing man can do will stop it. We humans look at things in to short of a time span to see what normal really is. When you do look to see where the earth spends most of its time, It's frightening. Billions will not survive the next ice age.

 

[ding]

Greenie kucks can't comprehend that today's climate (i.e. interglacial cycle) is not the earth's normal climate. At least not since we entered the ice age 3 million years ago. For much of the past 3 million years the earth has been really fucking cold.

 

[jc456]

The point is, It will change again soon and nothing man can do will stop it. We humans look at things in to short of a time span to see what normal really is. When you do look to see where the earth spends most of its time, It's frightening. Billions will not survive the next ice age.

I'm still looking for where climate changed in our lifetime to make such a nonsense comment about climate change today.

 

[jc456]

Greenie kucks can't comprehend that today's climate (i.e. interglacial cycle) is not the earth's normal climate. At least not since we entered the ice age 3 million years ago. For much of the past 3 million years the earth has been really fucking cold.

well again, ice was receding from when Chicago was under layers of ice. It has always been moving closer to the arctic. I'm still trying to understand what greenies are complaining about. Are they saying Chicago should be back under ice? it is almost every winter.

And that climate in my lifetime has always been the case. It hasn't changed. So, still waiting on where climate has recently changed.

I know they aren't water skiing in the Arctic yet. Now that would be climate change of some sorts.