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They have the power to shut off 20 percent of the worlds oil supply
And removing the type of people who would do that is a good thing.
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They have the power to shut off 20 percent of the worlds oil supply
They would deserve total Dresden like responses if they did. You want globalism for the United States and not for those other independent nations you love. They have borders. We do not.They have the power to shut off 20 percent of the worlds oil supply
That is always the problem with Trumps strategyAnd removing the type of people who would do that is a good thing.
That is always the problem with Trumps strategy
Kill the leader and another pops up
Persian Whack a Mole
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When was the last time it has been done like this, if ever?
In Venezuela the remaining lefties seem on the path to allowing free elections.
In 2-3 weeks the US will probably tell the Iranian people it's time to rise up after decimating the IRGC.
Germany tried to bomb England into surrenderWhen was the last time it has been done like this, if ever?
In Venezuela the remaining lefties seem on the path to allowing free elections.
In 2-3 weeks the US will probably tell the Iranian people it's time to rise up after decimating the IRGC.
Germany tried to bomb England into surrender
US bombed the hell out of Vietnam
Shock and Awe did not cause Iraq to surrender
Until Trump puts boots on the ground, the Strait will be closed
How many U.S. casualties will the American people tolerate in a war of choice?
100?
1000?
10,000?
.Buying meat directly from the farmer/rancher is common in rural neighborhoods. Ranch-to-consumer meats to urban customers is also becoming a thing. Much more profitable for the ranchers.
I worked in a small-town slaughterhouse/processing/freezer plant. Our customers bought directly from local farmers. Processing costs were often shared between the farmer and the buyer. Many buyers were from larger cities.I buy a couple of calves to fatten every couple of years. I also keep some hogs here on my place.
You're living in the 'sweet spot' of American culture..
I've got beef, pork, lamb, poultry, eggs and honey sitting next to me in the pew on Sunday, and a large garden and mad canning skills.
All I really need to stock up on is sugar and coffee.
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Serves you right for voting for the Orange Bastard.It's not like we didn't see this coming.
Damn that Trump for not being the first person in history to hold a perfect war with no secondary consequences! It is HIS fault the Iranians are blockading the Strait! He should have read their minds! And It is Trump's fault the insurance companies in the UK pulled their insurance!Trump's ill-planned blunder has already taken a major toll on fuel & fertilizer prices but now it's beginning to create spikes in food costs and food availability.
Trumps war is a catastrophe for the worldDemocrats are so dishonest and dumb.
War in Iran affecting oil supply is now a catastrophe but when the past two democrat administrations caused the oil supply issues on purpose there’s no mention.
He's in the 'breaking eggs' stage of making his omelet.Trumps war is a catastrophe for the world
Tell Iran to open it. Not that hard a conceptIt's not like we didn't see this coming. Trump's ill-planned blunder has already taken a major toll on fuel & fertilizer prices but now it's beginning to create spikes in food costs and food availability. As we know, George W Bush is remembered for his Iraq blunder. Trump will also be vilified for his most recent boneheaded move. He wanted to be remembered as a "President of Peace" but that pipe dream is long gone. He'll be remembered as the man who almost singlehandedly starved the world to death. How would you like THAT etched on their gravestone?
Anyway ... things are about to get much worse. It appears that Trump is sending soldiers for a "boots-on-the-ground" scenario. Super duper idiotic move to make. If we think fuel, fertilizer, and food is expensive now ... you ain't seen nuthin' yet. And Trump's icing on his cake will be American lives. All so that Israel can enjoy free healthcare and education at American taxpayer's expense.
A.I. Generated Information below:
"The ongoing conflict initiated by the Trump administration in Iran is severely disrupting global food supplies, primarily through the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a critical maritime chokepoint for fertilizer and food shipments. This disruption has led to sharp increases in fertilizer prices—urea prices from the Middle East have surged by about 40%, reaching over $700 per metric ton—and threatens crop yields worldwide, especially in import-dependent nations.
Fertilizer and fuel cost spikes are directly impacting farmers globally.
The humanitarian and economic consequences could be catastrophic.
- Over one-third of the world’s traded nitrogen fertilizers pass through the Strait of Hormuz, and with its closure, farmers face a "double whammy" of soaring fuel and fertilizer costs.
- In the U.S., corn farmers could face what one Illinois farmer described as a $4 billion cost increase, exacerbating an already unprofitable season.
- Smallholder farmers in Africa, such as in Tanzania and Kenya, are unable to export avocados and tea due to shipping suspensions, forcing them to accept rock-bottom prices or lose crops entirely.
- The UN World Food Programme warns that up to 45 million more people could fall into acute hunger if the conflict persists and oil prices remain above $100 per barrel.
- Countries like Sudan, Sri Lanka, and Tanzania, which rely heavily on fertilizers shipped via Hormuz, are especially vulnerable.
- Analysts project reduced planting and lower yields in the Southern Hemisphere and Asia, with food prices expected to rise globally, hitting low-income households the hardest."
The Neocons will claim that this is a "strategic way to harm our adversary, China" -- but they'll fail to mention that this will harm EVERYONE, including our allies and the American people.
It’s just transitoryTrumps war is a catastrophe for the world
I think your AI is hallucinating. Here's what ChatGPT told me.It's not like we didn't see this coming. Trump's ill-planned blunder has already taken a major toll on fuel & fertilizer prices but now it's beginning to create spikes in food costs and food availability. As we know, George W Bush is remembered for his Iraq blunder. Trump will also be vilified for his most recent boneheaded move. He wanted to be remembered as a "President of Peace" but that pipe dream is long gone. He'll be remembered as the man who almost singlehandedly starved the world to death. How would you like THAT etched on their gravestone?
Anyway ... things are about to get much worse. It appears that Trump is sending soldiers for a "boots-on-the-ground" scenario. Super duper idiotic move to make. If we think fuel, fertilizer, and food is expensive now ... you ain't seen nuthin' yet. And Trump's icing on his cake will be American lives. All so that Israel can enjoy free healthcare and education at American taxpayer's expense.
A.I. Generated Information below:
"The ongoing conflict initiated by the Trump administration in Iran is severely disrupting global food supplies, primarily through the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a critical maritime chokepoint for fertilizer and food shipments. This disruption has led to sharp increases in fertilizer prices—urea prices from the Middle East have surged by about 40%, reaching over $700 per metric ton—and threatens crop yields worldwide, especially in import-dependent nations.
Fertilizer and fuel cost spikes are directly impacting farmers globally.
The humanitarian and economic consequences could be catastrophic.
- Over one-third of the world’s traded nitrogen fertilizers pass through the Strait of Hormuz, and with its closure, farmers face a "double whammy" of soaring fuel and fertilizer costs.
- In the U.S., corn farmers could face what one Illinois farmer described as a $4 billion cost increase, exacerbating an already unprofitable season.
- Smallholder farmers in Africa, such as in Tanzania and Kenya, are unable to export avocados and tea due to shipping suspensions, forcing them to accept rock-bottom prices or lose crops entirely.
- The UN World Food Programme warns that up to 45 million more people could fall into acute hunger if the conflict persists and oil prices remain above $100 per barrel.
- Countries like Sudan, Sri Lanka, and Tanzania, which rely heavily on fertilizers shipped via Hormuz, are especially vulnerable.
- Analysts project reduced planting and lower yields in the Southern Hemisphere and Asia, with food prices expected to rise globally, hitting low-income households the hardest."
The Neocons will claim that this is a "strategic way to harm our adversary, China" -- but they'll fail to mention that this will harm EVERYONE, including our allies and the American people.
| Country | Share of Global Exports |
|---|---|
| China | ~22% |
| Russia | ~16% |
| Qatar | ~12% |
| Saudi Arabia | ~11% |
| Egypt | ~9% |
| Iran | ~10% |
| Oman | ~5–6% |
| UAE | ~3–4% |
| Nigeria | ~3% |
| Malaysia | ~2–3% |
| Year | Nominal Price | Price in 1980 Dollars |
|---|---|---|
| 1980 | $39 | $39 |
| 2008 | $147 | ~$52–55 |
| 2011–2012 | ~$110 | ~$40–42 |
| 2022 | ~$120 | ~$32–34 |
| 2026 (today) | ~$100 | ~$25–27 |
That is a significant and illuminating point.Oh, and regarding the $100/bbl for oil? That's a psychological point, but when you adjust for inflation, it's about as cheap as it ever was. These are the highest oil spikes since 1980, in 1980 dollars.
(Approximate inflation-adjusted values)
Year Nominal Price Price in 1980 Dollars 1980 $39 $39 2008 $147 ~$52–55 2011–2012 ~$110 ~$40–42 2022 ~$120 ~$32–34 2026 (today) ~$100 ~$25–27
Yep, most of the price we pay at the pump is due to our govts interferingThat is a significant and illuminating point.
The highest peaks were during and due to the Carter admin, the 2007 Congress denying drilling expansion and the Obama and Biden admins reinstating restrictions, stifling extraction.