Global Cooling Chills Summer

[Old Rocks]

Here's the latest satellite data from Ditto-Dopers Christy and Spencer and even THEY admit this decade has been WARMING:

Information from Global Hydrology and Climate Center, University of Alabama - Huntsville, USA The data from which the graphs are derived can be downloaded here.
Temperature Variation From Average:
Lower Troposphere:
Global:
June 2009: +0.01 °C
Northern Hemisphere: +0.04 °C
Southern Hemisphere: -0.02 °C
Peak recorded anomaly:
February, 1998: +0.76 °C
Current relative to peak recorded: -0.75 °CDECADAL TREND:
Global: +0.12 °C
Northern Hemisphere: +0.19 °C
Southern Hemisphere: +0.06 °C
Last update: July 7, 2009

Woopsie! Forgot to highlight this in the original response, but I suppose this does desrve its own response:

+.76 down to -.75 seems to be about a point and a half reduction.

By the by, our high in Indy yesterday was about 67 degrees compared to an average high of about 84.

Brrrrrrrr![/QUOTE]

And here in Portland, Oregon, our temps have been running from 85 to 95 for the last five days.

The last 13 years have seen 11 of the warmest years on record. But, using 1998 as a base, you claim cooling. It appears that we are going into an El Nino. Now if the El Nino produces record temperatures, exceeding 1998 and 2005, your whole hypothesis will be falsified. For if a moderate El Nino produces record temperatures during a period of low solar activity, there is nothing else to attribute the increase to but GHGs. I am quite confident that is what is going to happen.

I am also quite confident that you will find some other reason why it just isn't so. This denial of reality is quite amazing. And to see the denial politisized, to the point of the two parties in this nation coming down polar opposite on the subject is just amazing. Especially since the party that got handed their asses in the last election reached that situation by denial of reality in other spheres.

 

[edthecynic]

There is not much disagreement on whether or not there has been warming up to the year 2000 or so. The question is always as to what is the cause.

All of the CO2 that is the cause cited by the AGW proponents is still there plus the amounts accumulated since 2000.

The globe has cooled since 2001.

What does that prove about the cited cause?

It proves you are not telling the truth about cooling since 2001.



None of the data says we are cooling. After being caught lying about the Argo data saying the oceans have been cooling the last 5 years when it actually showed warming, and your own link admitted the satellite data showed warming, why do you think repeating the same lies will make them any more believable rather than you less credible.

Here's the latest satellite data from Ditto-Dopers Christy and Spencer and even THEY admit this decade has been WARMING:

Information from Global Hydrology and Climate Center, University of Alabama - Huntsville, USA The data from which the graphs are derived can be downloaded here.
Temperature Variation From Average:
Lower Troposphere:
Global:
June 2009: +0.01 °C
Northern Hemisphere: +0.04 °C
Southern Hemisphere: -0.02 °C
Peak recorded anomaly:
February, 1998: +0.76 °C
Current relative to peak recorded: -0.75 °C
DECADAL TREND:
Global: +0.12 °C
Northern Hemisphere: +0.19 °C
Southern Hemisphere: +0.06 °C
Last update: July 7, 2009

"This decade" started with a deep temperature depression in 2000. Not quite the anamoly that 1998 was in the opposite direction, but still, it was an outlier.

That the folks you cite use this as a start point point further demonstrates the the legitimacy of their presentation and that you edit the presentation further illustrates the calliber of yours. That they avoid the use of 1998 as a starting point, which can be supported as the start of a ten year cycle, their integrity is further bolstered.

Starting in 2001, which is a year with results more in line with the norm, we see a pretty dramatic fall off to today.

The amount of CO2 is ever increasing. The temperature is not. What does this do to your theory?

Your prediction is that warmning will occur with added CO2. The data shows that the warming you predict is not happening. Do you accept the new data and re-examine your conclusion or stick with your conclusion and adjust that data?

For a guy with "Cynic" in your name, it's odd that you seem to have a hook, line and a sinker in your throat.

Temperature Variation From Average:
Lower Troposphere:
Global:
June 2009: +0.01 °C

Peak recorded anomaly:
February, 1998: +0.76 °C
Current relative to peak recorded: -0.75 °C
DECADAL TREND:
Global: +0.12 °C
Northern Hemisphere: +0.19 °C
Southern Hemisphere: +0.06 °C
Last update: July 7, 2009


Woopsie! Forgot to highlight this in the original response, but I suppose this does desrve its own response:

+.76 down to -.75 seems to be about a point and a half reduction.

By the by, our high in Indy yesterday was about 67 degrees compared to an average high of about 84.

Brrrrrrrr!

Thank you for showing how deniers can rationalize anything as well as violate their own rationalizations as well as can't do math or understand english.

First of all, the start of the last 10 year cycle would be 1999 or 2000 not 1998. (1999 to 2008 or 2000 to 2009 depending on whether you are using the last full year of data or June's monthly data)

Second, you admit 1998 was a greater outlier than 2000 and that it would be more honorable not to use it, but then you used it underlined in red for emphasis, when you exaggerated the difference by changing the month of June 2009 from +.01 to -.75 by using the -.75 deviation of June 2009 from the outlier FEBRUARY 1998 as now the June 2009 temperature. Are you just that stupid that you can't do math or understand english, or are you sooooo motivated to twist any data to support you preconception that your bias makes you that stupid?

Thirdly, I never made any "prediction" about warming and CO2, I have only challenged your claims about global cooling for the short recent times you deniers cherry-pick.

And finally, every year after 2001 was warmer than 2001 except 2008 using the combined land and ocean data. If you use only the ocean data, only 2007 and 2008 were slightly cooler than 2001 (2007 and 2008 had a strong La Nina), and every year after 2001 was warmer than 2001 if you use only the land data.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, it is Old Rocks that is making the predictions. And I am confident enough from what I have seen since the mid-60s to make that prediction. So we will see who is validated by events.

 

[jreeves]

Yes, it is Old Rocks that is making the predictions. And I am confident enough from what I have seen since the mid-60s to make that prediction. So we will see who is validated by events.

BTW, have you stopped eating meat to save 1.5 billion tons of CO2 emissions yet? OR are you still living the life of a hypocrite?

 

[Sinatra]

BAM! Check out all those cold temps!

Cold June in Manhattan well below normal.

Among coldest Junes in Pheonix since 1913.

LA came in at 5 degrees below normal.

Boston almost 5 degrees below normal.

New Zealand climate center releases headline - Temperatures: Lowest ever for May in many areas, colder than normal for all.

Two South African vagrants froze to death.

Chicago had the COLDEST July 8th since 1891.

Yonkers received a snow storm - in JULY.

In Melbourne Australia, temps have been 10 degrees BELOW normal.


Global Cooling Chills Summer 2009 by Deroy Murdock on National Review Online

By the way, the earth's temperature has dropped .74 degrees since Al Gore released an Inconvenient Truth in 2006...

Brrrrrr...

 

[edthecynic]

BAM! Check out all those cold temps!

Cold June in Manhattan well below normal.

Among coldest Junes in Pheonix since 1913.

LA came in at 5 degrees below normal.

Boston almost 5 degrees below normal.

New Zealand climate center releases headline - Temperatures: Lowest ever for May in many areas, colder than normal for all.

Two South African vagrants froze to death.

Chicago had the COLDEST July 8th since 1891.

Yonkers received a snow storm - in JULY.

In Melbourne Australia, temps have been 10 degrees BELOW normal.


Global Cooling Chills Summer 2009 by Deroy Murdock on National Review Online

By the way, the earth's temperature has dropped .74 degrees since Al Gore released an Inconvenient Truth in 2006...

CON$ never tire of repeating the same lies no matter how many times their lies are exposed!!!

From your link:

“The latest global averaged satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveal yet another drop in Earth’s temperature. . . .Despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled 0.74 degrees F since former Vice President Al Gore released An Inconvenient Truth in 2006.”

From the UHA data your link cites:

Information from Global Hydrology and Climate Center, University of Alabama - Huntsville, USA The data from which the graphs are derived can be downloaded here.
Temperature Variation From Average:
Lower Troposphere:
Global:
June 2009: + 0.01°C

But in spite of your link's misrepresentation of June, I bet you STILL really believe the Earth has cooled .74 degrees F from 2006 to 2008!

Climate Monitoring
Global Temperature Highlights - 2008
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature from January-December was 0.88 degree F (0.49 degree C) above the 20th Century average of 57.0 degrees F (13.9 degrees C).

Global Temperatures
The global annual temperature for combined land and ocean surfaces in 2006 was +0.54°C (+0.97°F) above average

57.97 - 57.88 = .09 which to deniers = .74

 

[code1211]

BAM! Check out all those cold temps!

Cold June in Manhattan well below normal.

Among coldest Junes in Pheonix since 1913.

LA came in at 5 degrees below normal.

Boston almost 5 degrees below normal.

New Zealand climate center releases headline - Temperatures: Lowest ever for May in many areas, colder than normal for all.

Two South African vagrants froze to death.

Chicago had the COLDEST July 8th since 1891.

Yonkers received a snow storm - in JULY.

In Melbourne Australia, temps have been 10 degrees BELOW normal.


Global Cooling Chills Summer 2009 by Deroy Murdock on National Review Online

By the way, the earth's temperature has dropped .74 degrees since Al Gore released an Inconvenient Truth in 2006...

CON$ never tire of repeating the same lies no matter how many times their lies are exposed!!!

From your link:

“The latest global averaged satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveal yet another drop in Earth’s temperature. . . .Despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled 0.74 degrees F since former Vice President Al Gore released An Inconvenient Truth in 2006.”

From the UHA data your link cites:

Information from Global Hydrology and Climate Center, University of Alabama - Huntsville, USA The data from which the graphs are derived can be downloaded here.
Temperature Variation From Average:
Lower Troposphere:
Global:
June 2009: + 0.01°C

But in spite of your link's misrepresentation of June, I bet you STILL really believe the Earth has cooled .74 degrees F from 2006 to 2008!

Climate Monitoring
Global Temperature Highlights - 2008
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature from January-December was 0.88 degree F (0.49 degree C) above the 20th Century average of 57.0 degrees F (13.9 degrees C).

Global Temperatures
The global annual temperature for combined land and ocean surfaces in 2006 was +0.54°C (+0.97°F) above average

57.97 - 57.88 = .09 which to deniers = .74

The temperatures in your graphs are all adjusted. Why were they adjusted?

 

[Sinatra]

Summer 2009 is shaping up to be a colder than average summer across the US - just like 2008. Winter 2009-2010 could be even worse than the last one.

Yikes!

 

[FactFinder]

In New England this morning it is in the 60's in mid July.

We have never seen so many rainy days. I blame it on the real grand master of climate. The sun. The self centered egotists are not nearly as powerful as they would like to imagine.

SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids

Sunspot number: 0
What is the sunspot number?
Updated 23 July 2009

Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 13 days
2009 total: 155 days (76%)
Since 2004: 666 days
Typical Solar Min: 485 days

 

[Sinatra]

In New England this morning it is in the 60's in mid July.

We have never seen so many rainy days. I blame it on the real grand master of climate. The sun. The self centered egotists are not nearly as powerful as they would like to imagine.

SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids

Sunspot number: 0
What is the sunspot number?
Updated 23 July 2009

Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 13 days
2009 total: 155 days (76%)
Since 2004: 666 days
Typical Solar Min: 485 days

It is incredibly amusing to now see the global warmers scream that the lower temps are due to decreased sunspot activity - but when that same arguement is applied for the higher temps in the 1990s due to increased sunspot activity - they say NO - it was caused by man made CO2 emissions.

They grow increasingly silly in their assertions, and thankfully a majority are now waking up to the fact that humankind, while having an impact on the environment, has minimal impact on the climate when compared to the sun, the oceans, etc.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmmm......... Well here we go again, the usual suspects lying out both sides of their mouths to prove a falsehood. June, 2009, was the second warmest on record. That is the fact that shows what disengenous idiots these fools be.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Global Ocean Surface Temperature Warmest on Record for June
July 17, 2009

The world’s ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for June, breaking the previous high mark set in 2005, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Additionally, the combined average global land and ocean surface temperature for June was second-warmest on record. The global records began in 1880.

Global Climate Statistics
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature for June 2009 was the second warmest on record, behind 2005, 1.12 degrees F (0.62 degree C) above the 20th century average of 59.9 degrees F (15.5 degrees C).
Separately, the global ocean surface temperature for June 2009 was the warmest on record, 1.06 degrees F (0.59 degree C) above the 20th century average of 61.5 degrees F (16.4 degrees C).
Each hemisphere broke its June record for warmest ocean surface temperature. In the Northern Hemisphere, the warm anomaly of 1.17 degrees F (0.65 degree C) surpassed the previous record of 1.12 degrees F (0.62 degree C), set in 2005. The Southern Hemisphere’s increase of 0.99 degree F (0.55 degree C) exceeded the old record of 0.92 degree F (0.51 degree C), set in 1998.
The global land surface temperature for June 2009 was 1.26 degrees F (0.70 degree C) above the 20th century average of 55.9 degrees F (13.3 degrees C), and ranked as the sixth-warmest June on record.
Notable Developments and Events
El Niño is back after six straight months of increased sea-surface temperature anomalies. June sea surface temperatures in the region were more than 0.9 degree F (0.5 degree C) above average.
Terrestrial warmth was most notable in Africa. Considerable warmth also occurred in Siberia and in the lands around the Black and Mediterranean Seas. Cooler-than-average land locations included the U.S. Northern Plains, the Canadian Prairie Provinces, and central Asia.

 

[Sinatra]

BAM! Check out all those cold temps!

Cold June in Manhattan well below normal.

Among coldest Junes in Pheonix since 1913.

LA came in at 5 degrees below normal.

Boston almost 5 degrees below normal.

New Zealand climate center releases headline - Temperatures: Lowest ever for May in many areas, colder than normal for all.

Two South African vagrants froze to death.

Chicago had the COLDEST July 8th since 1891.

Yonkers received a snow storm - in JULY.

In Melbourne Australia, temps have been 10 degrees BELOW normal.


Global Cooling Chills Summer 2009 by Deroy Murdock on National Review Online

By the way, the earth's temperature has dropped .74 degrees since Al Gore released an Inconvenient Truth in 2006...

Brrrr....

 

[elvis]

BAM! Check out all those cold temps!

Cold June in Manhattan well below normal.

Among coldest Junes in Pheonix since 1913.

LA came in at 5 degrees below normal.

Boston almost 5 degrees below normal.

New Zealand climate center releases headline - Temperatures: Lowest ever for May in many areas, colder than normal for all.

Two South African vagrants froze to death.

Chicago had the COLDEST July 8th since 1891.

Yonkers received a snow storm - in JULY.

In Melbourne Australia, temps have been 10 degrees BELOW normal.


Global Cooling Chills Summer 2009 by Deroy Murdock on National Review Online

By the way, the earth's temperature has dropped .74 degrees since Al Gore released an Inconvenient Truth in 2006...

Brrrr....

it's been cold here this summer, that's for sure.

 

[code1211]

[quote

I am also quite confident that you will find some other reason why it just isn't so. This denial of reality is quite amazing. And to see the denial politisized, to the point of the two parties in this nation coming down polar opposite on the subject is just amazing. Especially since the party that got handed their asses in the last election reached that situation by denial of reality in other spheres.[/quote]

End quote

I'm not sure that is exactly right. Obama said he would end the war. Turns out he simply continued the plan in progress. He said he would close Gitmo. Seems like it's still open and he is having troubles figuring out how to close it in the face of reality. The economy went south at about the time of the election. It's continuing south.

Universal Health Care is a wonderful idea. So are allot of Utopian models. Turns out it costs money to spend money. Who would have guessed?

In October, Obama said that this was the worst economy since the Great Depression. Now he says he didn't know how bad it was. In which statement was he lying?

Obama said the economy was bad. Under his leadership, it's getting worse. Close Gitmo? No no. Out of Iraq? Ain't got the knack. Fight the right war? Just can't seem to score. Heal the sick? Can't do the trick.

Just pass the bill, you don't need to read the bill.

Dems who don't pay taxes get appointed. Dems can't seem to tell the truth. They're pretty clear on bribes, graft, paybacks and favoritism.

The Prez accuses the cop until the polls go south. Now he wants to have a beer with the cop who acts stupidly. You have to wonder if having a beer with the accuser is also stupid...

This guy is a menace and his handlers in the Senate and the House are true believers.

Is anybody else asking what's wrong with this picture?

 

[code1211]

Hmmmm......... Well here we go again, the usual suspects lying out both sides of their mouths to prove a falsehood. June, 2009, was the second warmest on record. That is the fact that shows what disengenous idiots these fools be.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Global Ocean Surface Temperature Warmest on Record for June
July 17, 2009

The world’s ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for June, breaking the previous high mark set in 2005, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Additionally, the combined average global land and ocean surface temperature for June was second-warmest on record. The global records began in 1880.

Global Climate Statistics
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature for June 2009 was the second warmest on record, behind 2005, 1.12 degrees F (0.62 degree C) above the 20th century average of 59.9 degrees F (15.5 degrees C).
Separately, the global ocean surface temperature for June 2009 was the warmest on record, 1.06 degrees F (0.59 degree C) above the 20th century average of 61.5 degrees F (16.4 degrees C).
Each hemisphere broke its June record for warmest ocean surface temperature. In the Northern Hemisphere, the warm anomaly of 1.17 degrees F (0.65 degree C) surpassed the previous record of 1.12 degrees F (0.62 degree C), set in 2005. The Southern Hemisphere’s increase of 0.99 degree F (0.55 degree C) exceeded the old record of 0.92 degree F (0.51 degree C), set in 1998.
The global land surface temperature for June 2009 was 1.26 degrees F (0.70 degree C) above the 20th century average of 55.9 degrees F (13.3 degrees C), and ranked as the sixth-warmest June on record.
Notable Developments and Events
El Niño is back after six straight months of increased sea-surface temperature anomalies. June sea surface temperatures in the region were more than 0.9 degree F (0.5 degree C) above average.
Terrestrial warmth was most notable in Africa. Considerable warmth also occurred in Siberia and in the lands around the Black and Mediterranean Seas. Cooler-than-average land locations included the U.S. Northern Plains, the Canadian Prairie Provinces, and central Asia.

Sounds like you're sticking with the various staions that have been shown to be innaccurate both by the skeptics who point to many flaws and by the proponents who regularly adjust the readings to gain accuracy. They then adjust the adjusted readings to gain more "accuracy".

Two things do remain certain, though:

1. The amount of warming has fallen far short of the predicted warming.
2. The predicted warming was based on the best projections of what CO2 would cause the climate to do.

From this we may assume either that the experts do understand our climate system or they don't. I'm guessing that if they did, the predictions would be accurate.

They're not. They don't.

 

[code1211]

Hmmmm......... Well here we go again, the usual suspects lying out both sides of their mouths to prove a falsehood. June, 2009, was the second warmest on record. That is the fact that shows what disengenous idiots these fools be.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Global Ocean Surface Temperature Warmest on Record for June
July 17, 2009

The world’s ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for June, breaking the previous high mark set in 2005, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Additionally, the combined average global land and ocean surface temperature for June was second-warmest on record. The global records began in 1880.

Global Climate Statistics
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature for June 2009 was the second warmest on record, behind 2005, 1.12 degrees F (0.62 degree C) above the 20th century average of 59.9 degrees F (15.5 degrees C).
Separately, the global ocean surface temperature for June 2009 was the warmest on record, 1.06 degrees F (0.59 degree C) above the 20th century average of 61.5 degrees F (16.4 degrees C).
Each hemisphere broke its June record for warmest ocean surface temperature. In the Northern Hemisphere, the warm anomaly of 1.17 degrees F (0.65 degree C) surpassed the previous record of 1.12 degrees F (0.62 degree C), set in 2005. The Southern Hemisphere’s increase of 0.99 degree F (0.55 degree C) exceeded the old record of 0.92 degree F (0.51 degree C), set in 1998.
The global land surface temperature for June 2009 was 1.26 degrees F (0.70 degree C) above the 20th century average of 55.9 degrees F (13.3 degrees C), and ranked as the sixth-warmest June on record.
Notable Developments and Events
El Niño is back after six straight months of increased sea-surface temperature anomalies. June sea surface temperatures in the region were more than 0.9 degree F (0.5 degree C) above average.
Terrestrial warmth was most notable in Africa. Considerable warmth also occurred in Siberia and in the lands around the Black and Mediterranean Seas. Cooler-than-average land locations included the U.S. Northern Plains, the Canadian Prairie Provinces, and central Asia.

Here's a temperature tracking record from the technology of today as opposed to the technology of the days of Vasco de Gama:

The Reference Frame: UAH: June 2009: anomaly near zero

Global mean temperature according to UAH MSU for the first 8.5 years i.e. 102 months of this century. Linear regression gives a cooling trend by a hefty -1.45 °C per century in this interval. So if someone tells you that the trend is "of course" positive as long as we omit the year 1998, you may be very certain that he or she is not telling you the truth.

UAH MSU has officially released their June 2009 data. This time, they're faster than RSS MSU. The anomaly was +0.01 °C, meaning that the global temperature was essentially equal to the average June temperature since 1979. June 2009 actually belonged to the cooler half of the Junes since 1979.

 

[editec]

It completely astounds me that as yet science still cannot tell us with certainty if the globe is warming or cooling.

This leave this layman no alternative to assume that either science isn't all its cracked up to be or some so called scientists are just flat out fools or liars.

 

[Old Rocks]

Since I have seen the glaciers in the mountains I walk in lose anywhere from 30% to 60% of their mass in the last 40 years, and am told in peer reviewed journals that this is the case world wide, I would have to say that the globe is warming.

But then there are those for whom any action would be to their economic detriment, and they will do or say anything to prevent any measure being taken, untill the situation is beyond redemption. Then they will try to put the blame elsewhere.

The globe is warming, and dangerously so. We are closer to the tipping point, perhaps even past it, than most of the scientists believe.

'Enjoy life while you can' | Environment | The Guardian

In 1965 executives at Shell wanted to know what the world would look like in the year 2000. They consulted a range of experts, who speculated about fusion-powered hovercrafts and "all sorts of fanciful technological stuff". When the oil company asked the scientist James Lovelock, he predicted that the main problem in 2000 would be the environment. "It will be worsening then to such an extent that it will seriously affect their business," he said.

"And of course," Lovelock says, with a smile 43 years later, "that's almost exactly what's happened."

Lovelock has been dispensing predictions from his one-man laboratory in an old mill in Cornwall since the mid-1960s, the consistent accuracy of which have earned him a reputation as one of Britain's most respected - if maverick - independent scientists. Working alone since the age of 40, he invented a device that detected CFCs, which helped detect the growing hole in the ozone layer, and introduced the Gaia hypothesis, a revolutionary theory that the Earth is a self-regulating super-organism. Initially ridiculed by many scientists as new age nonsense, today that theory forms the basis of almost all climate science.

For decades, his advocacy of nuclear power appalled fellow environmentalists - but recently increasing numbers of them have come around to his way of thinking. His latest book, The Revenge of Gaia, predicts that by 2020 extreme weather will be the norm, causing global devastation; that by 2040 much of Europe will be Saharan; and parts of London will be underwater. The most recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report deploys less dramatic language - but its calculations aren't a million miles away from his.

As with most people, my panic about climate change is equalled only by my confusion over what I ought to do about it. A meeting with Lovelock therefore feels a little like an audience with a prophet. Buried down a winding track through wild woodland, in an office full of books and papers and contraptions involving dials and wires, the 88-year-old presents his thoughts with a quiet, unshakable conviction that can be unnerving. More alarming even than his apocalyptic climate predictions is his utter certainty that almost everything we're trying to do about it is wrong.

 

[Old Rocks]

Tracking sea ice analomies;

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/sea.ice.anomaly.timeseries.jpg

 

[elvis]

Roxy can see Mount St. Helens from his house. That makes him an authority on this subject.