I heard of a poll that just came out stating that 31% of people surveyed believes that we are on the brink of another civil war. While I don't believe that for a minute, that concern doesn't surprise me with the hatred of Trump spewed by the MSM on a daily basis.
Civil war would mean a lot of deaths, and while leftists are extremely violent people, I just can't see it.
The announcement today of Kennedy leaving the court to spend the rest of his days fishing has probably made record alcohol sales in liberal cities and states, I still don't see the left getting violent enough to start this war. However..........
Would this be more of a reality if something happened to Justice Ginsburg? She is an elderly lady and certainly more prone to illness or death than any other Justice; not that I'm hoping for such a thing. But would such an unfortunate incident make this so-called civil war more of a reality in the US?
The media is a mind controlling machine. Another new poll came out that said 51% approve of the Trump economy. My only question was, WTF are these other 49% that think the economy isn't doing great? Brainwashing media.
what would a civil war look like today?
maybe we're already in it but we just don't recognize it cause we're not lining up in uniform and shooting each other in west virginia fields.
You'll know we're there when secession starts being seriously proposed in the state legislatures by someone other than the fringe wacko groups who propose every legislatural session.
aw hell - texas threatens this all the time. mostly to piss off the californians who keep flooding our housing market while they take advantage of a situation we didn't create but now our home costs have doubled so they can live for a few years off the equity of bad decisions they left behind.
but seriously - what would it look like today?
shooting congressmen playing softball - that civil war?
running over a liberal who won't get out of my way while they "protest' cottage cheese or something?
unfriending people on facebook cause they don't agree with my stellar views on the world?
or do we just stay angry until we're over it and move on?
No, see, Texas DOESN'T threaten it, that's the point. Texas, like Arizona, has the theoretical right in its state Constitution to secede, and like Arizona, has some nutball propose it every session. Everyone knows, including the nutballs, that it's not going to be approved. I said we'll be there when it's SERIOUSLY proposed by someone other than the nutballs.
The problem is that we don't seem to be getting over it at all.
Unfriending people? Eh, who gives a shit?
But being unable to conduct normal, everyday interactions with people without political differences leading to unhinged and even violent displays? Yeah, I'd say that qualifies. Look at the history of the antebellum US. They didn't go straight from zero to brother-against-brother; there was quite a build-up, and the earlier stages had some alarming parallels to now.
Consider this article, and compare its points to modern-day America:
5 Causes of the Civil War (Besides Slavery)
1. Sweeping Economic Changes
The article points out that antebellum America existed in two radically different economic states: the agrarian South, heavily dependent on cotton (which was becoming subject to competition outside the US), and the industrial powerhouse of the North. And they had radically different ideas as to how much their particular issues should be valued in the eyes of the government.
Any of that sound familiar?
2. The Union Was Rapidly Changing Amidst Political Upheaval
In the case of antebellum America, those changes were the inclusion of new states and territories amid the conflicts over "slave" vs "free" states.
In the case of modern America, how about massive demographic changes amid conflicts over illegal vs legal immigration?
3. There Was a Breakdown of Decorum and Civil Discourse
This one bears some direct quoting.
"Both North and South burned with righteous anger because both passionately believed in the justice of their cause. This caused not just harsh language, but spasms of violence that racked the nation."
Ringing bells so far?
"Perhaps the most notorious instance was Congressman Preston Brooks’ attack on Sen. Charles Sumner, who on the Senate floor delivered a speech filled with sexual innuendo that impugned the honor of a kinsman of the South Carolina Congressman. In response, Brooks attacked Sumner in his Senate office with a cane, leaving Sumner in a bleeding heap surrounded by cane shards. (It took two years for Sumner to recover.)"
Here's the significant part.
"In normal times a violent attack on an old, unarmed man would spark outrage. Instead, as historian Shelby Foote noted, “Southern sympathizers sent Brooks walking sticks by the dozen, recommending their use on other abolitionists…” "
Is there an echo in here?
4. Fundamental Disagreement on Constitutional Principles
Yeah, we don't have any of THAT these days, do we?
We not only fundamentally disagree on what the Constitution says and allows, we have mainstream, respected (by some people, anyway) people suggesting that we shouldn't even CARE about the Constitution, because it's "outdated". I mean, if you can't at least agree on the basic framework of how your country is set up and what it's trying to accomplish, how in the hell are you supposed to agree on anything else?
5. Different Nations, Different Dreams
This is a big one. The North and South had completely different values, goals, priorities, and plans for getting there from here. Today, we have the Coasts and Middle America doing the same damned thing. And we find the same sharp divisions not only geographically, but politically, culturally, theologically . . .
