Gingrich: Palestinians an ‘invented’ people

[bripat9643]

In the same way there are no Basque people:

"The Basques (Basque: euskaldunak, Spanish: vascos, French: basques) as an ethnic group, primarily inhabit an area traditionally known as the Basque Country (Basque: Euskal Herria), a region that is located around the western end of the Pyrenees on the coast of the Bay of Biscay and straddles parts of north-central Spain and south-western France."

Basque people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948, 650,000 Jewish residents of Mandate Palestine used armed force to impose a Jewish state on 1.3 million of their Arab neighbors. Call the Arabs by any name you choose, but it still doesn't change the name of Israel's crime, i.e, ethnic cleansing.

There was no "ethnic cleansing" anymore than Spain "cleansed" the basques. If the Arabs hadn't attacked Israel, they wouldn't have suffered the consequences of defeat.

 

[Steelplate]

Try googling "ancient maps of the Middle East" Better for you to do it yourself.

You do it, dipstick. I already have. There are no such maps.

Well then you are a fucking liar... because I found dozens on the first "images" page.

 

[Lakhota]

Maps

 

[bripat9643]

Jordan and Egypt have populations of Palestinians within them. That does not make them Jordanian or Egyptian.

Why are you so fucking dumb? Genetic?

Seriously, is this the fucking braindead route you're wanting to take? "La la la there is no such thing as a Palestinian la la la"?

Grow up, idiot.

You mean some Arabs who lived in Jordanian and Egyptian territory chose to call themselves Palestinians after their overlords lost a war of aggression against Israel.

There has never been any nation called "Palestine" nor any people called the "Palestinians" prior to the war against Israel in 1948. That is simply a fact, and all the libturd anti-Semites in this forum can't change it.

 

[bripat9643]

Try googling "ancient maps of the Middle East" Better for you to do it yourself.

You do it, dipstick. I already have. There are no such maps.

Well then you are a fucking liar... because I found dozens on the first "images" page.

Then post one of them.

I can use a good laugh.

 

[Steelplate]

You do it, dipstick. I already have. There are no such maps.

Well then you are a fucking liar... because I found dozens on the first "images" page.

Then post one of them.

I can use a good laugh.

Ok... there ya go.

 

[Lakhota]

Origin of the Name Palestine | Palestine Facts

 

[Jroc]

huh?

"Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich said in a cable TV interview that Palestinians are an “invented” people with no apparent right to their own state, a rejection of a decade of bipartisan U.S. foreign policy.

Gingrich calls Palestinians an "invented"; people - The Washington Post

Oh lawdy lawdy lawdy...

There are no Palestinian people....because Palestine has never existed as a country.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK_lrqg2dko]Palestine Never Existed - YouTube[/ame]

In the same way there are no Basque people:

"The Basques (Basque: euskaldunak, Spanish: vascos, French: basques) as an ethnic group, primarily inhabit an area traditionally known as the Basque Country (Basque: Euskal Herria), a region that is located around the western end of the Pyrenees on the coast of the Bay of Biscay and straddles parts of north-central Spain and south-western France."

Basque people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948, 650,000 Jewish residents of Mandate Palestine used armed force to impose a Jewish state on 1.3 million of their Arab neighbors. Call the Arabs by any name you choose, but it still doesn't change the name of Israel's crime, i.e, ethnic cleansing.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3HoAhitiog&]Israel - Birth of a Nation - part 1/10 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

In the same way there are no Basque people:

"The Basques (Basque: euskaldunak, Spanish: vascos, French: basques) as an ethnic group, primarily inhabit an area traditionally known as the Basque Country (Basque: Euskal Herria), a region that is located around the western end of the Pyrenees on the coast of the Bay of Biscay and straddles parts of north-central Spain and south-western France."

Basque people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948, 650,000 Jewish residents of Mandate Palestine used armed force to impose a Jewish state on 1.3 million of their Arab neighbors. Call the Arabs by any name you choose, but it still doesn't change the name of Israel's crime, i.e, ethnic cleansing.

There was no "ethnic cleansing" anymore than Spain "cleansed" the basques. If the Arabs hadn't attacked Israel, they wouldn't have suffered the consequences of defeat.

Google "Deir Yassin"

"The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village of roughly 600 people.[1]

"The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine."

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948 a Jewish state was imposed on a population that was two-thirds non Jew.
How was that accomplished without ethnic cleansing?

 

[bripat9643]

Maps

Your so-called map of Palestine shows the borders of the British Mandate that were artificially created. It was formerly part of the area called "Transjordan," which was originally supposed to be split into two territories: one for the Jews, and the rest for Arabs. Britain split it off the area you call "Palestine" to reserve it for the Jews.

Note that your map is a creation of propaganda created by some PLO organization. It's hardly credible.

 

[bripat9643]

There was no "ethnic cleansing" anymore than Spain "cleansed" the basques. If the Arabs hadn't attacked Israel, they wouldn't have suffered the consequences of defeat.

Google "Deir Yassin"

"The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village of roughly 600 people.[1]

"The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine."

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948 a Jewish state was imposed on a population that was two-thirds non Jew.
How was that accomplished without ethnic cleansing?

Did the Jews exterminate all of the non-Jewish population? No? Then there wasn't any ethnic cleansing. If you want to find some true examples of ethnic cleansing, read up on Rwanda or the Armenians in Turkey.

Getting your ass kicked in a war you started does not equate to "ethnic cleansing."

 

[Truthseeker420]

Maps

Your so-called map of Palestine shows the borders of the British Mandate that were artificially created. It was formerly part of the area called "Transjordan," which was originally supposed to be split into two territories: one for the Jews, and the rest for Arabs. Britain split it off the area you call "Palestine" to reserve it for the Jews.

Note that your map is a creation of propaganda created by some PLO organization. It's hardly credible.

Just because Philistines(Palestinians by the English) doesn't fit your definition of a nation doen mean they are not a nation.

 

[Gadawg73]

The Arab and Persian world hates Palestinians. They are on the bottom of the totem pole in the middle east. The Isrealis have done more for them than any other middle eastern nation. What other country in the middle east is a secular democracy?
Palestinians have been massacred in almost every Arab and Persian country for centuries but that is okay but when the Jews defend themselves that is a "massacre".
Kill all those that slaughter women and children while commanding their "military" from schools, hospitals, mosques and residential areas and let Allah sort them out.

 

[Truthseeker420]

There was no "ethnic cleansing" anymore than Spain "cleansed" the basques. If the Arabs hadn't attacked Israel, they wouldn't have suffered the consequences of defeat.

Google "Deir Yassin"

"The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village of roughly 600 people.[1]

"The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine."

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948 a Jewish state was imposed on a population that was two-thirds non Jew.
How was that accomplished without ethnic cleansing?

Did the Jews exterminate all of the non-Jewish population? No? Then there wasn't any ethnic cleansing. If you want to find some true examples of ethnic cleansing, read up on Rwanda or the Armenians in Turkey.

Getting your ass kicked in a war you started does not equate to "ethnic cleansing."

125 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,471 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)


Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present

1,092 Israelis and at least 6,537 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)

Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 - Present

10,792 Israelis and 59,575 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information.)


Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the Palestinians
Fiscal Year 2011

During Fiscal Year 2011, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.2 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

0 Israelis are being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,300 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,813 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)

Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates

The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.4%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.5% and 40% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 273 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)


If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine

 

[bripat9643]

Ok... there ya go.

Notice that your map is titled "Mediterranean Arena." That's because it was made during WW I. The area listed as "Palestine" was part of the Ottoman Empire at the time. It wasn't an independent nation. It was simply a designation for a region within the Ottoman Empire.


Fail.

 

[bripat9643]

The PLO claims to be at war with Israel. People get killed during war. That doesn't equate to genocide.

Once again, FAIL!

125 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,471 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)

Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present

1,092 Israelis and at least 6,537 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)

Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 - Present

10,792 Israelis and 59,575 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information.)

Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the Palestinians
Fiscal Year 2011

During Fiscal Year 2011, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.2 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

0 Israelis are being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,300 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,813 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)

Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates

The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.4%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.5% and 40% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 273 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)

If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine

 

[georgephillip]

There was no "ethnic cleansing" anymore than Spain "cleansed" the basques. If the Arabs hadn't attacked Israel, they wouldn't have suffered the consequences of defeat.

Google "Deir Yassin"

"The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village of roughly 600 people.[1]

"The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine."

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1948 a Jewish state was imposed on a population that was two-thirds non Jew.
How was that accomplished without ethnic cleansing?

Did the Jews exterminate all of the non-Jewish population? No? Then there wasn't any ethnic cleansing. If you want to find some true examples of ethnic cleansing, read up on Rwanda or the Armenians in Turkey.

Getting your ass kicked in a war you started does not equate to "ethnic cleansing."

"Around 107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes.[3] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem, though accounts vary.[4]

"...The killings were condemned by the leadership of the Haganah—the Jewish community's main paramilitary force—and by the area's two chief rabbis. The Jewish Agency for Israel sent Jordan's King Abdullah a letter of apology, which he rebuffed.[2]"

Zionism started that war.

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gadawg73]

The PLO calls for the destruction of Isreal in their charter.
If the PLO called for the destruction of the USA in their charter then we should blow them away.
If you are going to have scrambled with the bacon then some eggs have to be broken.
Anyone with a brain knows that the reason more civilians are killed when Palestinians attack FIRST and Isreal retaliates is that the Chicken Shiite Palestinians hide behind schools, hospitals, mosques and residential areas when it attacks.
The Palestinians put the civilians there to BE KILLED. They love that as that publicity gets them praise from the dumbmasses around the world that are too stupid to know any better.
Most Palestinians are animals. What form of human sends children strapped with bombs to slaughter innocent people.
They and anyone that supports them are barbarians.

 

[Gadawg73]

Why is it Isreals fault that the Palestinians are not wanted in any Arab or Persian (Iran and Pakistan) country in the middle east?

 

[georgephillip]

The Arab and Persian world hates Palestinians. They are on the bottom of the totem pole in the middle east. The Isrealis have done more for them than any other middle eastern nation. What other country in the middle east is a secular democracy?
Palestinians have been massacred in almost every Arab and Persian country for centuries but that is okay but when the Jews defend themselves that is a "massacre".
Kill all those that slaughter women and children while commanding their "military" from schools, hospitals, mosques and residential areas and let Allah sort them out.

There's no shortage of fascists and racists in Israel today regardless of the secular democracy that once existed there.

"Hillary Clinton had not yet finished voicing her concern about what is happening in Israel before that industrious Knesset member from the Likud, Danny Danon, started rattling off another version of the list of bills about loyalty to the state (which have meanwhile been dropped ): "Every certificate issued by the state will oblige [the recipient] to sign a document with a clause declaring loyalty to the State of Israel."

"An explanation was offered by Arutz Sheva, the settlers' news website: No declaration - then no driver's license, no identity card, no passport. Speaking to Razi Barka'i on Army Radio, Danon explained that this was indeed not enough for - watch out! - "the total solution." Even Barka'i almost choked at the phrase."

In Israel, 'fascist' is not a rude word - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News