George H W Bush october 19 1980, where was he?

[California Girl]

Liberal whiners can just never get over a loss, can they? I'll bet some of the same whiners are still fuming over Lincoln being elected.

 

[Truthmatters]

There are witnesses who saw him in Paris that day.


There are NO witnesses to him being in DC.

These documents will reveal the truth of his whereabouts on that day.


Do you agree they should be released?

 

[The T]

Simple: they were afraid of Reagan.

On the other hand, they laughed at Jimmy Carter.

seriously? You say they were afraid of reagan when he was not even president yet for a week? my my, that's some assumption there, don't ya think?

do you really buy in to that?

What difference does it make how long he was in office?

Reagan made it clear he intended to take military action against the Iranians if they didn't release the hostages. Carter made it clear that he was a spineless appeaser.

Precisely.

And he called Carter out from the very first day he announced his run against Jimmah and the Democrats.

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[Care4all]

i still don't see why the iranians would release them the day he got in to office....the deal had to have been made with the USA or the Reagan team, PRIOR to their release.....thus, jimmy carter's team worked the deal to release them, or the President elect's team got involved BEFORE Reagan was inaugurated.

 

[bripat9643]

There are witnesses who saw him in Paris that day.


There are NO witnesses to him being in DC.

These documents will reveal the truth of his whereabouts on that day.


Do you agree they should be released?

What day is that? Secret Service records establish his location on every day of the 1980 campaign. He was never in Paris. In fact, every time the conspiracy theorists came up with a date for the meeting, the facts shot it down, so they changed the date. The wack-doodle conspiracy theorists gave up on accusing Bush as the culprit a long time ago, and they shifted their attention to William Casey.


By pursuing this idiocy you're only proving how utterly gullible and stupid you are.

 

[bripat9643]

i still don't see why the iranians would release them the day he got in to office....the deal had to have been made with the USA or the Reagan team, PRIOR to their release.....thus, jimmy carter's team worked the deal to release them, or the President elect's team got involved BEFORE Reagan was inaugurated.

There was no deal, nitwit.

 

[WillowTree]

THey NEED to release these documents if he is innocent they will prove his innocence

Oh great, another Birther.

We must pray she's never given birth. Bite yer damned tongue.

 

[Google]

Keeping a Curious Bush Secret | Consortiumnews


Keeping a Curious Bush Secret


August 12, 2011


Exclusive: One of the strange mysteries from the Reagan-Bush era is where did George H.W. Bush go on one Sunday in October 1980 when some witnesses placed him meeting with Iranians in Paris. More than three decades later, Bush’s supposed alibi remains a state secret, Robert Parry reports.



By Robert Parry

More than three decades ago, on Oct. 19, 1980, then-Republican vice presidential candidate George H.W. Bush supposedly took an afternoon trip to visit a family friend in Washington, an alibi that could prove he could not have traveled secretly to Paris for treacherous meetings with Iranians.

But Bush’s White House in 1992 – and his presidential library now – have refused to release the name of this alibi witness or even the address where Bush allegedly went. The insistence on keeping this secret has just been reaffirmed by Debra Steidel Wall, deputy archivist of the United States.

So, rather than release what theoretically should be a fact the Bush Family would want out – proof that the elder George Bush did not engage in secret talks with Iranians behind President Jimmy Carter’s back regarding 52 Americans then being held hostage in Iran – the U.S. government is saying that only a costly federal court lawsuit can dislodge this historical detail.

The Obama Administration must really be in dire straits because I haven't seen so many threads about Reagan and Bush since Bush was in office.

Liberals will effortlessly invoke the legacy of Reagan to compare him to Obama, and then in the same breath go on to berate and impugn him.

The country is in such a deplorable shape under the leadership of this President, I too often find myself reminiscing on better times so I can't blame to left for prepossessing over Reagan's legacy.

 

[Truthmatters]

There are witnesses who saw him in Paris that day.


There are NO witnesses to him being in DC.

These documents will reveal the truth of his whereabouts on that day.


Do you agree they should be released?

Wrong, dipshit. Secret Service records establish his location that day. It wasn't in Paris. IN fact, every time the conspiracy theorists came up with a date for the meeting, the facts shot it down, so they changed the date. The wack-doodle conspiracy theorists gave up on accusing Bush as the culprit and shifted their attention to William Casey.


By pursuing this idiocy you're only proving how utterly gullible and stupid you are.

Oh do they , then release them

 

[Truthmatters]

i still don't see why the iranians would release them the day he got in to office....the deal had to have been made with the USA or the Reagan team, PRIOR to their release.....thus, jimmy carter's team worked the deal to release them, or the President elect's team got involved BEFORE Reagan was inaugurated.

There was no deal, nitwit.

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[Care4all]

just an fyi, i'm not saying hw bush went to meet them, I don't know that at all....

but what i AM SAYING is that the president elect's team had to negotiate the release BEFORE the actual release, or the Carter admin had to....which means Carter's team negotiated the release.....????

 

[uscitizen]

Since the United States was never at war with Iran, it's not treason.

However, it never happened, so the whole thing is idiotic.

The US has not been "at war" with anyone since the 1940's.

But some seem to think Jane Fonda is guilty of treason.

Boxer, Waxman, Waters, Pelosi. That's real treason. All Democrats. How inconvenient.

Now that is petty and far below your intelligence level, but partisanshipness will do that to ya.
Make you look stupit!

 

[JoeB131]

I read when Bush was 4 y/o he pulled a dogs tail once.

Not good at all.

Why do you belittle a potentionally treasonous act?

Because no matter how many times we prove it's a weather balloon, the loons will always insist it was a flying saucer.

Besides the fact that this was investigated by an Independent Counsel, and there was nothing found to this claim, it falls apart of simple logic.

What could George H. W. Bush possibly have offered the Iranians in exchange for holding the hostages a few weeks longer?

What would the Iranians get out of the deal?

That Bush and Reagan might do something for them in four months or later?

Consider Iran's position in the Fall of 1980. Saddam Hussein had declared war on them, and he was making considerable initial progress. The Iranian military was equipped with American weapons they couldn't keep in repair because replacement parts had been cut off when the Shah fell. The leadership of the military had either fled the country or been executed. There were no revenues coming in because of international sanctions in response to taking hostages.

It would have been in their best interests to release the hostages THAT DAY.

So whatever Bush must have offered them must have been pretty damned enticing. To date, none of you guys have been able to show they got anything for their efforts.

The Art of the Deal is that both sides come away thinking they got something. If you assume that Bush and Reagan got something by keeping the hostages for a few more weeks, then what did the Iranians get?

 

[Care4all]

so why did the iranians release the hostages right after reagan was inaugurated?

what was their purpose to wait? what advantage of doing such was an advantage to the Iranians?

inquiring minds want to know.....

Inquiring? Somehow, I don't think so.

got any guesses on why that day was chosen to release them?

 

[JoeB131]

No it has not.

It can be "exploded" by releasing the docyuments that "prove" he wasnt in Paris.

Gee why wont they release them then????????

Can you produce documents proving where YOU were on October 16, 1980.

I couldn't even tell you WHERE I was on that day.

 

[Warrior102]

Keeping a Curious Bush Secret | Consortiumnews


Keeping a Curious Bush Secret


August 12, 2011


Exclusive: One of the strange mysteries from the Reagan-Bush era is where did George H.W. Bush go on one Sunday in October 1980 when some witnesses placed him meeting with Iranians in Paris. More than three decades later, Bush’s supposed alibi remains a state secret, Robert Parry reports.



By Robert Parry

More than three decades ago, on Oct. 19, 1980, then-Republican vice presidential candidate George H.W. Bush supposedly took an afternoon trip to visit a family friend in Washington, an alibi that could prove he could not have traveled secretly to Paris for treacherous meetings with Iranians.

But Bush’s White House in 1992 – and his presidential library now – have refused to release the name of this alibi witness or even the address where Bush allegedly went. The insistence on keeping this secret has just been reaffirmed by Debra Steidel Wall, deputy archivist of the United States.

So, rather than release what theoretically should be a fact the Bush Family would want out – proof that the elder George Bush did not engage in secret talks with Iranians behind President Jimmy Carter’s back regarding 52 Americans then being held hostage in Iran – the U.S. government is saying that only a costly federal court lawsuit can dislodge this historical detail.

Where were you October 19 1980 ?

In line at the welfare office ?

 

[Care4all]

Keeping a Curious Bush Secret | Consortiumnews


Keeping a Curious Bush Secret


August 12, 2011


Exclusive: One of the strange mysteries from the Reagan-Bush era is where did George H.W. Bush go on one Sunday in October 1980 when some witnesses placed him meeting with Iranians in Paris. More than three decades later, Bush’s supposed alibi remains a state secret, Robert Parry reports.



By Robert Parry

More than three decades ago, on Oct. 19, 1980, then-Republican vice presidential candidate George H.W. Bush supposedly took an afternoon trip to visit a family friend in Washington, an alibi that could prove he could not have traveled secretly to Paris for treacherous meetings with Iranians.

But Bush’s White House in 1992 – and his presidential library now – have refused to release the name of this alibi witness or even the address where Bush allegedly went. The insistence on keeping this secret has just been reaffirmed by Debra Steidel Wall, deputy archivist of the United States.

So, rather than release what theoretically should be a fact the Bush Family would want out – proof that the elder George Bush did not engage in secret talks with Iranians behind President Jimmy Carter’s back regarding 52 Americans then being held hostage in Iran – the U.S. government is saying that only a costly federal court lawsuit can dislodge this historical detail.

Where were you October 19 1980 ?

In line at the welfare office ?

working for the American Red Cross's community Blood Center, next to Jackson memorial hospital, in Miami!

 

[Warrior102]

Keeping a Curious Bush Secret | Consortiumnews


Keeping a Curious Bush Secret


August 12, 2011


Exclusive: One of the strange mysteries from the Reagan-Bush era is where did George H.W. Bush go on one Sunday in October 1980 when some witnesses placed him meeting with Iranians in Paris. More than three decades later, Bush’s supposed alibi remains a state secret, Robert Parry reports.



By Robert Parry

More than three decades ago, on Oct. 19, 1980, then-Republican vice presidential candidate George H.W. Bush supposedly took an afternoon trip to visit a family friend in Washington, an alibi that could prove he could not have traveled secretly to Paris for treacherous meetings with Iranians.

But Bush’s White House in 1992 – and his presidential library now – have refused to release the name of this alibi witness or even the address where Bush allegedly went. The insistence on keeping this secret has just been reaffirmed by Debra Steidel Wall, deputy archivist of the United States.

So, rather than release what theoretically should be a fact the Bush Family would want out – proof that the elder George Bush did not engage in secret talks with Iranians behind President Jimmy Carter’s back regarding 52 Americans then being held hostage in Iran – the U.S. government is saying that only a costly federal court lawsuit can dislodge this historical detail.

Where were you October 19 1980 ?

In line at the welfare office ?

working for the American Red Cross's community Blood Center, next to Jackson memorial hospital, in Miami!

I was 2 months into a Navy Recruiting assignment

 

[Mr. Shaman]

so why did the iranians release the hostages right after reagan was inaugurated?

what was their purpose to wait? what advantage of doing such was an advantage to the Iranians?

inquiring minds want to know.....

Ya' never heard o'...

Arms, For Hostages

....huh??​

 

[Truthmatters]

It is Kinda a Reagan trade mark huh?