Genital Mutilation Now a Reality in America: Coming soon to your Neighborhood

[koshergrl]

Ah, diversity. Infanticide and genital mutilation. Leftists sure respect and elevate women, don't they?

 

[koshergrl]

When you add to their proclivity for infanticide and genital mutilation, their embrasure of chemical and surgical sex alteration of young boys...

And their staunch defense of human trafficking across the border...

You get an idea of who they are.

 

[aaronleland]

If it's only done to stop females from having an orgasm I don't see what the big problem is.

 

[The Original Tree]

I hasten to add that I don't think that child sexual abusers should remain in the homes with their victims, or that parents who practice FGM, but mandating the permanent removal of children from both of their parents, and terminating parental rights is not the way to go. Even children in foster care who have been horrendously abused and neglected just want to go home.

The basic premise of child protections laws is what is in the best interests of the child. Terminating parental rights permanently harms a child, and makes the original trauma even worse.

Abortion is The Termination of Parental Rights, as well as a termination of The Right to Life guaranteed in The Constitution. You don't seem to have a problem with that.

 

[Papageorgio]

So, what clinic can I send my daughters to get one these Clitoroutofme procedures?

Many backward countries you can take them to a clinic or even a barber and have it done. I hope your daughter enjoys herself and has a happy life, it seems you want what you feel is best for her. Boy is she lucky to have a backward parent such as yourself.

Oh sorry Papa, I should have stipulated that I was looking for a facility here in America where this reality is supposedly coming soon. Perhaps it's somewhere where they practice Shakira law?

Or not?

It's already here, I am not sure it is a religious custom however there are many cultures that have this custom and it is practiced here and done by certain cultures. It is illegal to perform such an operation however like with abortions when they were illegal you can find a person with a dirty knife and some alcohol.

I see, so it's illegal. Is there a push to make it legal? Obviously there are laws against it already on the books and it appears hardly anyone condones the practice. Even Omar.

""What I would like to have been done is to have (the parents) charged with laws that already exist.”

Somali-American nonprofit groups have raised concerns that further criminalizing FGM would push the issue deeper underground, effectively worsening the problem. They have argued instead that putting more funding towards outreach and education would be more effective.

I was wrong, the federal law prohibits those under 18 having FGM, 28 states have laws that ban the practice however they are still performed underground just like abortions were.

 

[Dragonlady]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

 

[Norman]

Sharia authorizes Honor killings... And Minnesota is going down that path..

None of this crap surprises me any more...

Soon they will be able to enslave you and it will be all in the name of Islam.. Democrats are fools and its going to end in a war real soon.

Bullshit and Bullshit, respectively. Neither FGM nor "honor" killings have anything to do with Islam or with any religion at all. And we've done this thoroughly in the past, yet here y'all mythologists come with the same bullshit in hand expecting different results.

BOTH of these practices are ancient cultural artifacts dating from WAAAAY before Islam, or Chritstianism, or Hinduism, or any other religions y'all desperately try to "associate" with them, were ever dreamed up. It's literally ancient history.

As far as the OP's whiny-little-bitch special pleading about "where is the left's outrage", the existence of FGM was first brought to Western attention in the 1970s by Gloria Steinem. While OP-boi was asleep.

Well, to be frank, I don't think anyone cares whether them throwing gays off buildings is "honor killing" or just a good old fashioned "killing".

 

[Pogo]

Ah, diversity. Infanticide and genital mutilation. Leftists sure respect and elevate women, don't they?

Explain.

 

[TNHarley]

Where is The Lying Left's OUTRAGE at Genital Mutilations being performed on women in these Muslim Enclaves in America?

You won't hear it. The Left hates women, babies and children as much as Radical Islam does.

To think that we have to start writing laws in AMERICA forbidding Genital Mutilation of little girls is disgusting, vile and putrid.

The Left brought this Evil in to this Country, and The Left should bear the responsibility for such disgusting behavior.

Minnesota lawmaker's push for tougher female genital mutilation law faces opposition

MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. – Republican state legislator Mary Franson has spent two years pushing for a new state law that would allow tougher prosecution of parents who facilitate or allow the genital mutilation of their daughters.

But Franson and supporters of those who want to punish more than just the practitioners of the horribly painful and widely condemned practice are finding opposition, both active and passive, to what its supporters believe should be a legislative no-brainer.

“The bill makes FGM (female genital mutilation) a felony, and it empowers social services to come in and take those children out of the home and remove the parental right from those parents,” Franson told Fox News in an interview. “This is completely on par with child endangerment such as criminal sexual conduct or assault with a dangerous weapon – anything that causes substantial bodily harm.”

Franson’s efforts have been far from smooth sailing. When her bill first hit the floor in 2017, it faced tough questioning from several lawmakers – among them then-state legislator and current U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, who suggested Franson was using the bill as a bid for press attention.

"What I don't want us to do is to create laws because we want to get in the media,” Omar stated in a committee at the time. "What I would like to have been done is to have (the parents) charged with laws that already exist.”

Despite Omar's concerns, she and another 123 House members voted for the bill to pass on. Four other representatives did not. The bill fell flat in the Minnesota Senate.

Franson said Omar should have done more. “Ilhan hasn’t mentioned it at all. She never spoke about it on the House floor. She was in the back room watching it on the TV until it became time to vote, and she had to come out and vote.”

Omar’s support would have been particularly important because she represented the large Somali community where girls are at higher risk of being forced into FGM. And Franson argues it was in fact pressure from that community that kept her bill from moving forward.

Franson pointed to one case in 2017 in which two girls belonging to a small Indian Muslim sect known as the Dawoodi Bohra, according to court documents, who were taken to Michigan to have FGM performed, which Franson said motivated her to examine the issue more carefully.

“If this wasn’t happening,” Franson asked, “then why is our own health department dedicating resources to this?”

The Minnesota Department of Health offers an FGM “cutting prevention and outreach program” that offers funding for the MDH Refugee and International Health Program and the International Institute of Minnesota (IIMN) to form and co-lead a working group dedicated to prevention and community engagement on the matter.

The custom is not only carried out by trained medical practitioners in some communities; but also community elders in non-safe settings - with sharp scissors as a tool of choice.

I’m not up to date with the genital mutilation thing. Is it any different than circumcision or are we talking about the same thing?

There is absolutely no comparison.

 

[bendog]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

Imo, cleanliness is next to godliness, pick the god of your choice, and none have any real connection to maiming women to perpetuate male domination of sexual relations, which all religions discourage in strangely similar ways. I'm all for a higher power, but prefer the god of secular humanism myself.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

I am not proposing that,nor did I state a "belief". Circumcision is,indeed, male genital mutilation, which is a fact. And since it is widespread and legal, one would have a tough time banning female genital mutilation in the same code of law.

 

[Pogo]

Nothing like cutting out a little girl's labia, cutting off her clitoris, cutting out the labia minor, then scrapping all the top layers of skin off, and destroying as many nerve endings as you can so that a woman can never enjoy sex once they are at the age of consent.

There are Muslim countries where 98% of women are forced to have this procedure and it has Zero Health Benefits.

There is nothing more degrading to women than Islam.

Welcome to the new Democrat Party.

And you wonder why OMAR is so angry.

Once AGAIN you ignorant dishonest FUCK who thinks you have to make everything bold and somehow that will make your mythologies work, it has zero to do with "Islam" because it has zero to do with RELIGION because it has no religious function at all in any religion, and is an ancient cultural artifact thousands of years old predating ALL those religions.

See post 9 you ignorant hack.
As well as post 32, you dishonest moron.
As well as post 46, you fallacy-ridden waste of human skin.
As well as post 53, you sick fuck.

See that sign in 46? That's in Uganda, a predominantly Christian country. Or take the case of Mecca, where FGM is considered barbaric, and rightly so. See that reference to "Democrat Party"? There's NO SUCH THING.

Cram your puerile ass-ociation fallacies back up your ass where they belong, wimp.

 

[The Original Tree]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

Imo, cleanliness is next to godliness, pick the god of your choice, and none have any real connection to maiming women to perpetuate male domination of sexual relations, which all religions discourage in strangely similar ways. I'm all for a higher power, but prefer the god of secular humanism myself.

You keep forgetting that Islam is not a religion.

 

[koshergrl]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

I am not proposing that,nor did I state a "belief". Circumcision is,indeed, male genital mutilation, which is a fact. And since it is widespread and legal, one would have a tough time banning female genital mutilation in the same code of law.

Trust an anti-semite to claim that we have to allow female genital mutilation..which is not religious....because we allow circumcision. Way to toss the female babies out with the buckets of blood for the purpose of attacking a religious group.

 

[Dragonlady]

Sharia authorizes Honor killings... And Minnesota is going down that path..

None of this crap surprises me any more...

Soon they will be able to enslave you and it will be all in the name of Islam.. Democrats are fools and its going to end in a war real soon.

Bullshit and Bullshit, respectively. Neither FGM nor "honor" killings have anything to do with Islam or with any religion at all. And we've done this thoroughly in the past, yet here y'all mythologists come with the same bullshit in hand expecting different results.

BOTH of these practices are ancient cultural artifacts dating from WAAAAY before Islam, or Chritstianism, or Hinduism, or any other religions y'all desperately try to "associate" with them, were ever dreamed up. It's literally ancient history.

As far as the OP's whiny-little-bitch special pleading about "where is the left's outrage", the existence of FGM was first brought to Western attention in the 1970s by Gloria Steinem. While OP-boi was asleep.

Well, to be frank, I don't think anyone cares whether them throwing gays off buildings is "honor killing" or just a good old fashioned "killing".

Actually it was announced today that the Trump Administration is going to mount a campaign to have all laws banning homosexuality overturned. The guy making the announcement said that even Mike Pence is on board with this program:

8 anti-LGBT things Trump has done

Too bad they won't do more to end discrimination against gays at home, but this is definitely something that someone very high up in the administration was able to get Trump on board with.

 

[Pogo]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

Imo, cleanliness is next to godliness, pick the god of your choice, and none have any real connection to maiming women to perpetuate male domination of sexual relations, which all religions discourage in strangely similar ways. I'm all for a higher power, but prefer the god of secular humanism myself.

You keep forgetting that Islam is not a religion.

You keep forgetting that your entire Ass-ociation Fallacy has been debunked, and yet here you are still digging.



Good plan there, jackwagon. Let us know if it ever actually works. DUMBASS.

 

[Dragonlady]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

I am not proposing that,nor did I state a "belief". Circumcision is,indeed, male genital mutilation, which is a fact. And since it is widespread and legal, one would have a tough time banning female genital mutilation in the same code of law.

Trust an anti-semite to claim that we have to allow female genital mutilation..which is not religious....because we allow circumcision. Way to toss the female babies out with the buckets of blood for the purpose of attacking a religious group.

It's not religious, but it is cultural, which is the same thing. Even people who read the same Bible, don't follows the same beliefs structure. What one Christian sect believes is often seen as blasphemy by another.

 

[Pogo]

The problem here is that genital mutilation of males is widespread and perfectly legal.

It was a way of preventing disease. If men properly bathed and washed the thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It started for sanitary reasons, to reduce infections and infant mortality.

Unless it's being done for religious reasons, and the Bible does call for it, most parents today are not getting their sons circumcised, because parents today share your belief. None of my grandsons have been circumcized, and I know because I changed all of their diapers.

I'm willing to bet if you tried to ban circumcision in the USA, both the Jews, and the right wing Christians would howl about the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The "Christian right" will scream "war on Christianity" at the drop of a hat. Why don't you give it a go!

I am not proposing that,nor did I state a "belief". Circumcision is,indeed, male genital mutilation, which is a fact. And since it is widespread and legal, one would have a tough time banning female genital mutilation in the same code of law.

Trust an anti-semite to claim that we have to allow female genital mutilation..which is not religious....because we allow circumcision. Way to toss the female babies out with the buckets of blood for the purpose of attacking a religious group.

Still we sit waiting on post 68.
Made an ass-sertion she can't demonstrate.
Connected "the left" but of reason bereft.
From her claim she doth shrink out of failure to think.

Post 68, we sit and we wait.
The moon is in Cancer, we still get no answer.
Posted a lie, and then went buh-bye.
Nothing to say, she done ran away.

 

[Slade3200]

Where is The Lying Left's OUTRAGE at Genital Mutilations being performed on women in these Muslim Enclaves in America?

You won't hear it. The Left hates women, babies and children as much as Radical Islam does.

To think that we have to start writing laws in AMERICA forbidding Genital Mutilation of little girls is disgusting, vile and putrid.

The Left brought this Evil in to this Country, and The Left should bear the responsibility for such disgusting behavior.

Minnesota lawmaker's push for tougher female genital mutilation law faces opposition

MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. – Republican state legislator Mary Franson has spent two years pushing for a new state law that would allow tougher prosecution of parents who facilitate or allow the genital mutilation of their daughters.

But Franson and supporters of those who want to punish more than just the practitioners of the horribly painful and widely condemned practice are finding opposition, both active and passive, to what its supporters believe should be a legislative no-brainer.

“The bill makes FGM (female genital mutilation) a felony, and it empowers social services to come in and take those children out of the home and remove the parental right from those parents,” Franson told Fox News in an interview. “This is completely on par with child endangerment such as criminal sexual conduct or assault with a dangerous weapon – anything that causes substantial bodily harm.”

Franson’s efforts have been far from smooth sailing. When her bill first hit the floor in 2017, it faced tough questioning from several lawmakers – among them then-state legislator and current U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, who suggested Franson was using the bill as a bid for press attention.

"What I don't want us to do is to create laws because we want to get in the media,” Omar stated in a committee at the time. "What I would like to have been done is to have (the parents) charged with laws that already exist.”

Despite Omar's concerns, she and another 123 House members voted for the bill to pass on. Four other representatives did not. The bill fell flat in the Minnesota Senate.

Franson said Omar should have done more. “Ilhan hasn’t mentioned it at all. She never spoke about it on the House floor. She was in the back room watching it on the TV until it became time to vote, and she had to come out and vote.”

Omar’s support would have been particularly important because she represented the large Somali community where girls are at higher risk of being forced into FGM. And Franson argues it was in fact pressure from that community that kept her bill from moving forward.

Franson pointed to one case in 2017 in which two girls belonging to a small Indian Muslim sect known as the Dawoodi Bohra, according to court documents, who were taken to Michigan to have FGM performed, which Franson said motivated her to examine the issue more carefully.

“If this wasn’t happening,” Franson asked, “then why is our own health department dedicating resources to this?”

The Minnesota Department of Health offers an FGM “cutting prevention and outreach program” that offers funding for the MDH Refugee and International Health Program and the International Institute of Minnesota (IIMN) to form and co-lead a working group dedicated to prevention and community engagement on the matter.

The custom is not only carried out by trained medical practitioners in some communities; but also community elders in non-safe settings - with sharp scissors as a tool of choice.

I’m not up to date with the genital mutilation thing. Is it any different than circumcision or are we talking about the same thing?

There is absolutely no comparison.

Well thank you for the great explanation!

 

[Pogo]

Where is The Lying Left's OUTRAGE at Genital Mutilations being performed on women in these Muslim Enclaves in America?

You won't hear it. The Left hates women, babies and children as much as Radical Islam does.

To think that we have to start writing laws in AMERICA forbidding Genital Mutilation of little girls is disgusting, vile and putrid.

The Left brought this Evil in to this Country, and The Left should bear the responsibility for such disgusting behavior.

Minnesota lawmaker's push for tougher female genital mutilation law faces opposition

MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. – Republican state legislator Mary Franson has spent two years pushing for a new state law that would allow tougher prosecution of parents who facilitate or allow the genital mutilation of their daughters.

But Franson and supporters of those who want to punish more than just the practitioners of the horribly painful and widely condemned practice are finding opposition, both active and passive, to what its supporters believe should be a legislative no-brainer.

“The bill makes FGM (female genital mutilation) a felony, and it empowers social services to come in and take those children out of the home and remove the parental right from those parents,” Franson told Fox News in an interview. “This is completely on par with child endangerment such as criminal sexual conduct or assault with a dangerous weapon – anything that causes substantial bodily harm.”

Franson’s efforts have been far from smooth sailing. When her bill first hit the floor in 2017, it faced tough questioning from several lawmakers – among them then-state legislator and current U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, who suggested Franson was using the bill as a bid for press attention.

"What I don't want us to do is to create laws because we want to get in the media,” Omar stated in a committee at the time. "What I would like to have been done is to have (the parents) charged with laws that already exist.”

Despite Omar's concerns, she and another 123 House members voted for the bill to pass on. Four other representatives did not. The bill fell flat in the Minnesota Senate.

Franson said Omar should have done more. “Ilhan hasn’t mentioned it at all. She never spoke about it on the House floor. She was in the back room watching it on the TV until it became time to vote, and she had to come out and vote.”

Omar’s support would have been particularly important because she represented the large Somali community where girls are at higher risk of being forced into FGM. And Franson argues it was in fact pressure from that community that kept her bill from moving forward.

Franson pointed to one case in 2017 in which two girls belonging to a small Indian Muslim sect known as the Dawoodi Bohra, according to court documents, who were taken to Michigan to have FGM performed, which Franson said motivated her to examine the issue more carefully.

“If this wasn’t happening,” Franson asked, “then why is our own health department dedicating resources to this?”

The Minnesota Department of Health offers an FGM “cutting prevention and outreach program” that offers funding for the MDH Refugee and International Health Program and the International Institute of Minnesota (IIMN) to form and co-lead a working group dedicated to prevention and community engagement on the matter.

The custom is not only carried out by trained medical practitioners in some communities; but also community elders in non-safe settings - with sharp scissors as a tool of choice.

I’m not up to date with the genital mutilation thing. Is it any different than circumcision or are we talking about the same thing?

There is absolutely no comparison.

Well thank you for the great explanation!

Harley's an expert on foreskins.

He actually wrote that speech that goes, "Foreskins and seven ears ago...." Very popular in cadaver class.