General Peter Pace's lessons about Terrorism

[ekrem]

Hello. In Ankara there was a International Conference on Terrorism organized by TMMM (Turkish anti-terrorism centre)...

Whilst American senators John Warner and Gordon Gray were also in Ankara but not because of to attend the Conference specially but things that rely also to this subject , General Peter Pace attended this conference where Turkish Chief General Staff Özkök made the opening speech. And 82 other international representatives are attending.


Turkish press reports Peter Pace saying: "Turkish-American relations are like husbands with up and downs, it is normal."

Also Turkish Press reports about conversation of General Peter Pace and General Ilker Basbug (Chief General staff in 2008) that Peter Pace said related to PKK:
"Killing terrorists is not the solution".

Hmm. Don'T get smart of this sentence: What is America doing since 9.11. if not killing terrorists, additionally in some regions of this world with turkish men support?
Why does Peter Pace don't say this sentence for Al-Qada and only for Turkish terrorists?



General Hilmi Özkök's lesson:

“Chief of General Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok’s speech at the international symposium on ‘Global Terrorism and International Cooperation’ organized by the General Staff was like a lesson. Gen. Ozkok gave messages to the world on the definition of terrorism, the international socioeconomic features behind it, its global dimension and new methods, targets and differences and distortions in the approach towards terrorism. Gen. Ozkok drew the audience’s attention to double standards in the fight against terrorism and said that countries shouldn’t trust the security of their own borders, the right of self-defense or their share in the global economy. He stated that no one country can win the fight against terrorism single-handedly and that a nation or culture which tries to defeat terrorism targeting itself while ignoring terrorism aimed at the other countries and cultures has no chance of success. He added that the biggest mistake would be considering certain terrorists ‘villains’ and others ‘freedom fighters’ and that this false distinction served to fuel terrorism. These evaluations from Gen. Ozkok were criticisms and warnings to countries which consider only terrorism aimed at themselves to be threats and which think that they can solve all the problems with their economic and military might. Gen. Ozkok added that the history was full of examples showing that the terrorism was the most ungrateful child and that terrorism would finally lash out and destroy the hand that feeds it.

http://www.byegm.gov.tr/YAYINLARIMIZ/CHR/ING2006/03/06x03x24.HTM# 9
http://www.tsk.mil.tr/bashalk/konusma_mesaj/2006/sempozyumkapaniskonusmasi_24032006.htm

 

[Adam's Apple]

Canavar, I am unclear as to what it is that you are trying to say in your post.

I will agree with General Ozkok on two points that he made:

(1) There must be one clear, common understanding of what a "terrorist" is for the world to unite in the fight against the terrorists.

(2) No one country can fight this war by itself. A terrorist act against one Western country is a terrorist act against them all. This has been America's message to the world since the WOT began. We cannot lose sight of the fact that the radical Muslim's goal is to make the entire world Muslim. In their own words: "The Saturday crowd first (Jews), the Sunday crowd (Christians) afterwards."

 

[Doc Holiday]

I agree as well. The world must first be able to define terror in a way that all agree. Then it must work together to eliminate it. This means no back door deals that some countries (Russia, France, Germany) are famous for. I don't see it happening anytime soon. Too many people wrapped up in their own issues to deal with this effectively.

 

[ekrem]

http://www.tgrthaber.com//tgrt_haber/content/media/2006/04/01/cenazeee.3.wmv


please watch this video. It is about 2 minutes. The speaker you won't understand, but the pictures you will.

and afterwards please read this:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29183909.htm


and then please look this map, and reconsider the men responsible for all this are in Kandil Mountains, their logistic base, communication base and from where they are infiltrateing. This is not local people who make Diyarbakir Business association make written comment "to do business in stores it is too dangerous". Even Saturday's first league soccer match will be postponed.



and then remember Peter Pace saying to turkish KKK General in reliance to PKK in North-Iraq: "Killing terrorists is not the solution".

 

[ekrem]

It is the first time since a long period that Turkish army now intervenes in a south-eastern city, because Police is not able, let me say it otherwise is restricted to new eu-harminization laws only to use water guns and pepper gas.

People of Diyarbakir see what the PKK is
Ilnur Cevik

[email protected]
29 March 2006

The terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party- (PKK) instigated violence in Diyarbakir on Tuesday shows how volatile the situation is in southeastern Turkey.

The PKK was unable to create havoc during the Nevruz festivities on March 21 thanks to the common sense displayed by local intellectuals and famous figures and has now hit back in its own style of violence and hatred.

This is a dangerous course that will do more harm to our citizens of Kurdish origin in a country where Turkish nationalism is on the rise.

The incidents in Diyarbakir just show how the minds of the PKK planners work. They aren' interested in any form of peace or brotherhood and all they want is to wreak havoc and cause as much misery as possible.

They used the funeral of four PKK militants killed in a security operation in Mus over the weekend to unleash their hatred. More than 5,000 people were pushed into a fight with the police that later turned into full blown riots. The PKK ordered shops closed and �punished� shop owners who refused to bring down the shutters by destroying their facilities. A police armored car was set on fire and banks were destroyed. What's interesting is that the rioters also attacked restaurants serving alcoholic beverages in other parts of Diyarbakir well away from the areas where the funerals were held.

It was an open attempt to disrupt the peace and tranquility in this city where such incidents were frequent several years ago but are now non-existent.

There were similar incidents in Adana where another of the PKK militants killed in Mus was laid to rest. There again 3,000 people clashed with police.

The PKK showed its true and ugly face and exploited the sorrow and anger of the local people to show it remains a violent terrorist organization.

The people of Diyarbakir in general would condemn these incidents as they only serve to increase tension and friction in Turkey between nationalist Turks and Kurdish activists. But a few thousand seem to feel they are justified in towing the PKK line. They have to be aware that this is a dangerous course as many Turks will be angered by these events and will support nationalists who don't take too kindly to those of us who want to promote Turkish-Kurdish brotherhood in Turkey.

Turkey has lost too many sons and daughters because of the terrorist campaign started by the PKK in 1984. We continue to lose many young people from our security forces and among the militants who have been lured into the mountains to become terrorists by the PKK. This should be an occasion to reflect on what's going wrong instead of creating more violence and grief.

The Kurds of Turkey have to see that every action creates a reaction that's only harmful to the country, in general, and to them, in particular.

http://www.thenewanatolian.com/opinion-3667.html



What do Diyarbakir incidents indicate?

- That EU-harmonization laws
- extending minority rights
- broadcasting Kurdish productions in Turkish state TV
- giving Kurdish Private broadcasters licences to air their stuff
and soon

is not the right answer. There are still people who with placards of jailed Terrorist leader go onto the street and make trouble getting their orders from outside.

In addition the latest operations against the PKK have revealed that the organization gets more transnational connections and aids. In the last week, after the operations against the PKK in Istanbul and Mardin, 29,5 kg. of C4 explosive was seized. C4 has an explosion speed of 8096 meter per second and it is 118% more destructive than TNT. As 100 grams of this explosive can destroy a car, 3 kg can destroy an apartment and 8 kg can make the same destruction as the HSBC Bank attack; the consequences of the use of this amount of explosive –almost 30 kg.- would be devastating. Moreover it was admitted by the detained terrorists in the early 2004 that 750 kg of C4 was brought in Turkey by the PKK.

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=14713


I will not now wite here chronology of bomb attacks in Turkey the last months but it is increasing, now reached a point, where Turkish Army fullfills Police duty in a City.

And this is no Inner-Turkey problem when the heads are behind the boarders.

Did USA restricted hunt for Terrorist only within US soil, or did you come thousands of Kilometers to kill others and especially the leading cadre of terrorists as well as those countries who gave them bases?
No. You did come and even pulled Saddam out of a earth-hole who did not attacked WTC, but is being alleged to have "connections" with Al-Qaeda.

 

[ekrem]

The link is interesting. But i will only post a part, not to spam here with copy&paste...


http://www.byegm.gov.tr/YAYINLARIMIZ/CHR/ING2006/03/06x03x28.HTM# 8

MESSAGES TO THE US DELEGATION BY FIKRET BILA (MILLIYET)

(...)The US Congressional delegation’s exchanges during its contacts with the Parliament should be written down: When Warner said that he had done his military service in Korea and that when Turkish soldiers were there, they could sleep soundly, main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy leader Onur Oymen responded, ‘There were 5,000 Turkish soldiers in Korea and you were sleeping comfortably there. There are 150,000 US soldiers next to us in Iraq, but we can’t sleep soundly. Turkey is being attacked there, but US soldiers do nothing and don’t let us do anything. The PKK’s armed force of 4,000-5,000 stands there and you do nothing.(...)

 

[Adam's Apple]

Thanks for the clarification. Now I understand what's on your mind.

BTW, keep tuned. You will find out that Saddam had more than "alleged" connections to Al Quada.

 

[ekrem]

Today:

A bomb hidden in a garbage can exploded near an Istanbul bus stop Friday, killing one person and injuring 13, police said.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/3761862.html

Kurd group responsible for Istanbul blast; 1 dead
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498777206&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull