Gaza, Meet My Good Friend Moab

[kyzr]

There is only an obvious comparison to antisemites. Are the Jews putting Gazans in cattle cars, sending them to concentration camps, harvesting the gold from their teeth, and they placing them in gas chambers? Have the Jews killed 2/3rd of the Gazan population? To the contrary, about 98% remain alive. That is thanks to the restraint of the Jews. The more obvious comparison is what the Islamists did to Jews on October 7th - pure evil.

1. I agree that 10/7 was horrible. But dropping thousands of 2000# bombs on Gazans killing 40,000 or so is overkill.
2. No one wants the Gazans, they will not leave Gaza peacefully
3. One option is for Arabs to build apartment complexes back from the rubble
4. Relocate them from the rubble to the new apartments and keep doing that
5. The IDF was asleep on-guard 10/7, they need to triple the guards around Gaza so 10/7 doesn't happen again

 

[BlackSand]

1. I agree that 10/7 was horrible. But dropping thousands of 2000# bombs on Gazans killing 40,000 or so is overkill.
2. No one wants the Gazans, they will not leave Gaza peacefully
3. One option is for Arabs to build apartment complexes back from the rubble
4. Relocate them from the rubble to the new apartments and keep doing that
5. The IDF was asleep on-guard 10/7, they need to triple the guards around Gaza so 10/7 doesn't happen again

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They don't have to leave ... Yet.

Just let all the hostages go by noon on Saturday ...
They have a choice, and it's not a hard one to figure out...
If they are truly concerned about the welfare of their people ...

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[Carl in Michigan]

You sure about that?

He clearly didn't watch the video. Trump is sending it to israel

 

[Carl in Michigan]

But dropping thousands of 2000# bombs on Gazans killing 40,000 or so is overkill

Nope it's TARGETED strikes. Think about what you posted. "Thousands of 2,000 pound bombs killed 40,000

Doesn't sound like a good kill ratio per pound

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The IDF was asleep on-guard 10/7, they need to triple the guards around Gaza so 10/7 doesn't happen again

They need to be removed. They are related to the Arabs, not israel

 

[kyzr]

Nope it's TARGETED strikes. Think about what you posted. "Thousands of 2,000 pound bombs killed 40,000

Doesn't sound like a good kill ratio per pound

So what was solved other than wasting $billion of US weapons?

 

[kyzr]

They need to be removed. They are related to the Arabs, not israel

To where? What if they won't go? hint: no one wants them.

 

[BlackSand]

So what was solved other than wasting $billion of US weapons?

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The basic dilemma of never-ending conflict ...
When two parties are unwilling to explore alternate avenues.

Leverage only works when you are willing to pull the lever ... President Truman understood that.
There are times when two parties will indicate they have no interest in allowing the other to continue to kill their citizens.

That's typically when two choices appear ... Kill enough people to make one party quit ...
Or until you run out of people to kill.

I mean we do live in what we would like to believe is a civilized world ...
But some people are still going to insist on doing it the hard way.

Over the last seven decades the Palestinian Leadership has been offered the ability to live in Peace ...
If they were in the least bit interested in living in Peace with their neighbors ...They would have done it already.

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[gipper]

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They don't have to leave ... Yet.

Just let all the hostages go by noon on Saturday ...
They have a choice, and it's not a hard one to figure out...
If they are truly concerned about the welfare of their people ...

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You clearly know nothing about the history of Israel and Palestine. Get informed!

 

[BlackSand]

You clearly know nothing about the history of Israel and Palestine. Get informed!

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The history of Palestine and Israel ... Wasn't what I was talking about.

I was talking about Leverage ...
And in a circumstance where whatever the fuck you think should be happening ...
Isn't, and it is as simple as that ...

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[gipper]

So what was solved other than wasting $billion of US weapons?

The destruction of Gaza was always the intention of the Zionists in control of the Israeli government. 10/7 was the pretense needed to destroy and ethnically cleanse Gaza, for the benefit of Israelis and to get total control of the natural resources offshore. They have a long history of ethnic cleansing.

The Zionist Trump is stating baldly the ultimate goal of the ethnic cleansing of all non-Jews from Palestine, which has been the Zionists’ goal from the beginning and lies behind Biden, who considers himself a Zionist, and Trump’s recent support for Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

It is nothing new. Ethnic supremacy and a pure Jewish state have always been the goal, even as the Zionists used Nazi rhetoric and tactics that they allegedly abhorred while working with the Nazis to get German Jews into Palestine but nowhere else. What became known as The Haavara Transfer Agreement is proof of that.

If you think Zionism and Judaism are synonymous, you have swallowed a package of lies wrapped as a treacherous gift; for Jews with a conscience know that the Zionist project is a terrible stain on their name.
Palestine Hijacked: How Zionism Forged An Apartheid State From River to Sea By Thomas Suárez - LewRockwell

 

[gipper]

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The history of Palestine and Israel ... Wasn't what I was talking about.

I was talking about Leverage ...
And in a circumstance where whatever the fuck you think should be happening ... Isn't ...

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If you think letting all the hostages go stops Israel’s genocide, you’ve deceived yourself.

Do you also support the release of thousands of Palestinian hostages held in Israeli prisons?

 

[BlackSand]

If you think letting all the hostages go stops Israel’s genocide, you’ve deceived yourself.

Do you also support the release of thousands of Palestinian hostages held in Israeli prisons?

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I don't think you understand gipper ... I fully understand your objections and concerns ...
And the reasoning as well as every justification you are going to make ... Hell, it's not like you make them a secret.

But guess what ... We don't live in a world where perfect ideology either exists ... Or magically appears in reality.
So ... If you just want another seven decades of people killing each other ... Do you really want me to say I support that?

To tell you the truth ... I'm kind of Thankful that decision is not on my plate ...
Would you like some eggs for lunch ... I got those ...

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[DigitalDrifter]

Israel should just make it official, bulldoze every square inch, and completely take it over.

 

[gipper]

Israel should just make it official, bulldoze every square inch, and completely take it over.

Hitler and Stalin would be so proud of you.

 

[kyzr]

The basic dilemma of never-ending conflict ...
When two parties are unwilling to explore alternate avenues.

Leverage only works when you are willing to pull the lever ... President Truman understood that.
There are times when two parties will indicate they have no interest in allowing the other to continue to kill their citizens.

That's typically when two choices appear ... Kill enough people to make one party quit ...
Or until you run out of people to kill.

I mean we do live in what we would like to believe is a civilized world ...
But some people are still going to insist on doing it the hard way.

Over the last seven decades the Palestinian Leadership has been offered the ability to live in Peace ...
If they were in the least bit interested in living in Peace with their neighbors ...They would have done it already..​

...so don't leave us hanging. Your recommended solution to Gaza is?

 

[gipper]

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I don't think you understand gipper ... I fully understand your objections and concerns ...
And the reasoning as well as every justification you are going to make ... Hell, it's not like you make them a secret.

But guess what ... We don't live in a world where perfect ideology either exists ... Or magically appears in reality.
So ... If you just want another seven decades of people killing each other ... Do you really want me to say I support that?

To tell you the truth ... I'm kind of Thankful that decision is not on my plate ...
Would you like some eggs for lunch ... I got those ...

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Peace is the answer. It’s just that simple, but it’s hard to achieve when so much hate exists on both sides, and so many atrocities have been committed by both sides.

 

[BlackSand]

Peace is the answer. It’s just that simple, but it’s hard to achieve when so much hate exists on both sides, and so many atrocities have been committed by both sides.

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That's true gipper ... And barely touches where you and I are going to separate.

I support the Israelis for a reason ... And it's not because they are Jewish or some huge Zionist Kabal.
It's because they had my back ... When my ass was 'in the dirt' ... And when the folks steering the ship had already made their choices.

So ... We're probably not going to see it the same way ... And none of it makes a whole lot of sense as far as Peace is concerned.
I owe them ... Reasonably or not, it's just the way I feel ... You might not get that.

I know what death and destruction looks like ... Smells like ... It's not like I want that for anyone.
But ... Sometimes the Real World comes knocking ...

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[BlackSand]

...so don't leave us hanging. Your recommended solution to Gaza is?

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My solution is easy ... Stop fucking killing each other ... What's yours ...
Because it doesn't look like they are really interested in mine ...

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[Scoutster]