Gay marriage is still banned in the Navajo nation

[Faun]

BINGO! But only if opposite sex!

So? It's still illegal if a father wants to marry his daughter even if there's no sex involved. Or for a son to marry his mother even if she's beyond childbirthing years. The law is applied equally to all.

 

[Faun]

Bullshit, the government gives them permission, issues the paperwork, and when it end the government manages the relationship in divorce court

Stop with you pitiful stammering

That's not legislating their marriage. It's allowing them to legally get married and potentially legally exiting their marriage. In between they are not legislating it.

 

[HeyNorm]

So? Applies to gay people too.

Gays can mate, but only if one is male, the other female.

 

[HeyNorm]

So? It's still illegal if a father wants to marry his daughter even if there's no sex involved. Or for a son to marry his mother even if she's beyond childbirthing years. The law is applied equally to all.

I said nothing about opposite marriage of closely related couples. The thought is appalling and should be forbidden.

But, since you are struggling with this…….

What is the compelling State interest in prohibiting a couple of same sex, closely related heterosexuals from marrying so they can share the same financial benefits from marriage as a gay none related couple?

Deflection will start, again, in 3…..2……1……

 

[jknowgood]

If you want to have a "holy union", go ahead. Other people don't want "holy unions", my marriage is not a "holy union" and never will be. And I'm not gay.

Sure you're not.

 

[Faun]

Gays can mate, but only if one is male, the other female.

Fortunately for gay couples, mating isn't a requirement for marriage. That fortune extends to straight couples who can't have kids or don't want to have kids.

 

[Faun]

I said nothing about opposite marriage of closely related couples. The thought is appalling and should be forbidden.

But, since you are struggling with this…….

What is the compelling State interest in prohibiting a couple of same sex, closely related heterosexuals from marrying so they can share the same financial benefits from marriage as a gay none related couple?

Deflection will start, again, in 3…..2……1……

Again, the same interest which prohibits a 70 year old woman from marrying a close relative of the opposite sex even though reproduction is off the table. Incest is illegal for all. Like marriage being legal for all, regardless of sex.

 

[HeyNorm]

Fortunately for gay couples, mating isn't a requirement for marriage. That fortune extends to straight couples who can't have kids or don't want to have kids.

Couples who don’t want or can’t have kids still mate.

 

[HeyNorm]

Again, the same interest which prohibits a 70 year old woman from marrying a close relative of the opposite sex even though reproduction is off the table. Incest is illegal for all. Like marriage being legal for all, regardless of sex.

You say it’s legal for all, yet not legal for all.

And again you Dodge the question. What is the States compelling interest in forbidding the financial benefits of marriage to heterosexual closely related same sex couples. Are they not similarly situated?

 

[Faun]

You say it’s legal for all, yet not legal for all.

And again you Dodge the question. What is the States compelling interest in forbidding the financial benefits of marriage to heterosexual closely related same sex couples. Are they not similarly situated?

Incest Under the Law

Incest laws prohibit sexual relations between family members who are not spouses, sometimes including people who are not blood relatives.

www.justia.com

 

[HeyNorm]

Incest Under the Law

Incest laws prohibit sexual relations between family members who are not spouses, sometimes including people who are not blood relatives.

www.justia.com

You keep dodging. Curious.

Seems the compelling state interest has to do with mating? Two heterosexual same sex, closely related individuals, would not, by their very nature, mate. They, like gay, same sex couples, would only need to Marry to reap the financial benefits afforded.

Want to take another swing at this, without dodging?

 

[Faun]

You keep dodging. Curious.

Seems the compelling state interest has to do with mating? Two heterosexual same sex, closely related individuals, would not, by their very nature, mate. They, like gay, same sex couples, would only need to Marry to reap the financial benefits afforded.

Want to take another swing at this, without dodging?

It's not a dodge. I just showed you a second reason why it's illegal.

 

[TNHarley]

Scalping and bigotry. Such savages

 

[HeyNorm]

You keep dodging. Curious.

Seems the compelling state interest has to do with mating? Two heterosexual same sex, closely related individuals, would not, by their very nature, mate. They, like gay, same sex couples, would only need to Marry to reap the financial benefits afforded.

Want to take another swing at this, without dodging?

It's not a dodge. I just showed you a second reason why it's illegal.

All was good before same sex marriage became legal. The dynamics as to why marriage exists has changed since then.

People now, as is the case with same sex marriage, which is always for financial benefit, marry for vastly different reasons.

Would it help you to see what marriage law was prior to obergfell?

Now, what is the compelling State reason to prohibit same sex, closely related, heterosexual individuals from marrying when others that are similarly situated are allowed?

 

[Faun]

All was good before same sex marriage became legal.

Not for everyone.

 

[HeyNorm]

Not for everyone.

Why run? Did you not understand when you exploited legal precedent, that it would have implications?

You created it. And now you oppose what you created?

Typical.

 

[Faun]

Why run? Did you not understand when you exploited legal precedent, that it would have implications?

You created it. And now you oppose what you created?

Typical.

Huh? What did I oppose?

 

[HeyNorm]

Huh? What did I oppose?

Two same sex individuals marrying for no apparent reason.

 

[Faun]

Two same sex individuals marrying for no apparent reason.

I did no such thing.

 

[HeyNorm]

I did no such thing.

You keep bring up incest. Why?