Garland's DOJ asks court to keep Trump Mar-a-Lago search affidavit sealed

[jbrownson0831]

There's no RIGHT for YOU to know what is in a sealed indictment.



Remember Trump promised for 4 years to show his taxes. He never did. So in this case where there exists NO REASON OR LEGAL REQUIREMENT OR EVEN PROMISE to provide YOU with what is in this sealed indictment why are THESE folks "sick" but not Trump et al?

Let the judge decide then right? Garland has no right to say it stays sealed any more than Trump wants it open, right?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Let the judge decide then right? Garland has no right to say it stays sealed any more than Trump wants it open, right?

Why is this so necessary at this time? Is it because Trump is a god and it is illegal to prosecute a god? Or is it because Trump has proven himself to be a man of sterling reputation without stain or implication on his character such that it is UNIMAGINABLE that he should have to be treated to the same thing all potential defendants are treated in the US?

I'm really confused at how much Conservatives are OBSESSED with every jot and tittle of the law and making sure all things are clearly laid out first. I mean we watched George Floyd get executed on the street for a POSSIBLE crime of passing a fake $20 and all we heard from the Right was "Blue lives mattah!"

This dual-track justice system in which Trump and other powerful men are given every possible respect throughout the process and the system in which black men are murdered on the street for not cooperating enough is very confusing.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Let the judge decide then right? Garland has no right to say it stays sealed any more than Trump wants it open, right?

Maybe we should let it all play out the way Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's case played out and THEN we can spend the next several years figuring out if it was all done "by the book". Fair enough?

 

[MagicMike]

There is no valid reason the affidavit can't be released now. Saying it is part of an ongoing investigation does not mean it can't be made public. If the DOJ doesn't trust the public, then clearly doubts about the integrity of Biden's DOJ and about whether this search was just for political purposes have been validated.

So what if the search was "for political purposes"
like keeping a dangerous tyrant from ever holding power again.
You guys toss out that "political p

They are looking for the docs Trump has to make them look bad.

Right on cue.
I just heard the lunatic Dan Bongino spouting this nonsense on the radio a few minutes ago as I was driving across town on an errand.
I thought to myself "I'll give the message board MAGATards less than an hour before they are repeating this crap online.
And when I got hone and looked at my phone....PRESTO!
Here it is.
Sheeple!

 

[BackAgain]

If the search warrant application justified any search at all (which is plenty doubtful from what we have learned from the warrant itself), then it certainly didn’t justify a “general” warrant or a so-called “roving” warrant. Our Constitution doesn’t allow for general warrants. Period. Yet, the face of the warrant basically calls for it to be a general warrant:

a. Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;
b. Information, including communications in any form, regarding the retrieval, storage, or transmission ofnational defense information or classified material;
c. Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021.

— excerpt of the issued warrant

Item “c” Is incredibly over broad on its own. It says the magistrate judge allowed the government to search for any papers created over Trump’s entire first term. But that’s not all: look at item “a.”

That says that if something is “marked” as classified (which does not mean it still is classified”) they can take such documents etc together with the entire storage box in which it is found. Not exactly particularized nor is it related to a theoretical criminal act.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A compromise, keep the affidavit sealed and publish Jeffrey Epstein's address book, like they promised.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

If the search warrant application justified any search at all (which is plenty doubtful from what we have learned from the warrant itself), then it certainly didn’t justify a “general” warrant or a so-called “roving” warrant. Our Constitution doesn’t allow for general warrants. Period. Yet, the face of the warrant basically calls for it to be a general warrant:


— excerpt of the issued warrant

Item “c” Is incredibly over broad on its own. It says the magistrate judge allowed the government to search for any papers created over Trump’s entire first term. But that’s not all: look at item “a.”

That says that if something is “marked” as classified (which does not mean it still is classified”) they can take such documents etc together with the entire storage box in which it is found. Not exactly particularized nor is it related to a theoretical criminal act.

...now let's harness this ZEAL for every jot and tittle of the law for EVERY AMERICAN. Not just the Trump-god.

 

[Care4all]

You realize it looks now like the FBI leaked the story about he nuclear documents, then used the nuclear documents leak as reasoning for the search warrant.

Which they have done before.

Great move, Dems.

Sweet sue, the judge made his decision to legally issue a search warrant, via the evidence he was shown in the affidavit, which supported probable cause that the 3 alleged crimes listed on the warrant, were committed, and the evidence gathered could prove such..., and not by what was being reported....that's how it works!

The leaks about nukes could come from the witnesses or witnesses lawyers....or as claimed,.maybe the FBI or someone there....for the public, but that would not influence a judge's decision on actual evidence, that has to support probable cause....

 

[BackAgain]

...now let's harness this ZEAL for every jot and tittle of the law for EVERY AMERICAN. Not just the Trump-god.

How about we just simplify this for you? How about we all agree that President Trump isn’t an exception to the requirements demanding due process and equal protection of the laws?

 

[SweetSue92]

Sweet sue, the judge made his decision to legally issue a search warrant, via the evidence he was shown in the affidavit, which supported probable cause that the 3 alleged crimes listed on the warrant, were committed, and the evidence gathered could prove such..., and not by what was being reported....that's how it works!

The leaks about nukes could come from the witnesses or witnesses lawyers....or as claimed,.maybe the FBI or someone there....for the public, but that would not influence a judge's decision on actual evidence, that has to support probable cause....

THe FISA judges issued warrants too.

You know those were bogus. Right?

 

[justaschmuck9]

The Garland DoJ has asked the court to keep the affidavit in support of the search warrant of Mar-A-Lago sealed.

DOJ asks court to keep Trump search affidavit sealed

A judge seat a hearing for Thursday

www.ny1.com

He had an excellent reason for doing this:

Trump wanted him to

 

[justaschmuck9]

LOL

I think....


not too funny what this country has come to..

 

[justaschmuck9]

"to protect the integrity of an ongoing law enforcement investigation that implicates national security."

What part of national security do you object to?

the part that says it's OK for Hitlery to smash blackberries w/ Classified info on them but a military man takes a photo of the INSIDE of a submarine and he's in big trouble..

that part

 

[MagicMike]

the part that says it's OK for Hitlery to smash blackberries w/ Classified info on them but a military man takes a photo of the INSIDE of a submarine and he's in big trouble..

that part

Nothing says it was "I ok."
The matter was investigated and no criminal charges filed.
Period.
End of story.
That was a different case

It doesn't have anything to do with Trump.
And Hillary was not a POTUS.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

How about we just simplify this for you? How about we all agree that President Trump isn’t an exception to the requirements demanding due process and equal protection of the laws?

...that appears to be what is happening.

The only problem for you lot is that Trump is the one in the crosshairs this time 'round. Suddenly you all are armchair DA's.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So what if the search was "for political purposes"
like keeping a dangerous tyrant from ever holding power again.
You guys toss out that "political p

When you use the police and the courts to attack your political opponents, then you are the tyrant.

 

[MagicMike]

No
When you commit crimes while in office that law enforcement has to investigate and when you abuse tge court system for your own benefit then YOU are the tyrant.

 

[BackAgain]

...that appears to be what is happening.

The only problem for you lot is that Trump is the one in the crosshairs this time 'round. Suddenly you all are armchair DA's.

What you and your tawdry ilk overlook is the one thing you should be concerned about:

Trump is only in “crosshairs” because partisan politics has been allowed to take root in our DOJ and in the FBI. That’s ok with you because you’ve been brainwashed into assuming that “orange man bad.” You tools never seem capable of extrapolation. Let me educate you.

Come the midterms, the House is likely to become GOP. I recognize it is a bit less likely that the GOP will reclaim control of the Senate, but let’s say that happens too.

If so, come January, Brandon is not going to be able to stop what’s coming. Pure political payback. And the investigations and subpoenas will fly. And in a couple more years you can expect Brandon and Wray and Garland etc., to be in the receiving end of the very treatment you now applaud.

Be careful what you’ve already wished for. Payback is a ***** and the Democrap Party needs to be punished accordingly. Until they learn to play within the rules. They haven’t been. They are on the cusp of finding out how it feels to be on the short end of the stick.

Let’s compare notes after that has gone on for a few years.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Sorry, Magic Mushroom, but it is NOT all on security footage! They do not have cameras in all 128 rooms! Not even close. Any moron would know that.

And they already admitted to going all through her wardrobe!

They're sure not going to have cameras in Melanias closet, videoing her putting in lingerie.

I love the selective secrecy. They won't provide the affidavit because it would reveal their investigative strategy? Do they not know that we all can see the strategy plainly after six years?

When they want negative spin against Trump out there, they leak like a sieve to their relay station media.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No
When you commit crimes while in office that law enforcement has to investigate and when you abuse tge court system for your own benefit then YOU are the tyrant.

Trump has not been charged for any crimes because there is no evidence of any crimes, but it does appear Biden is abusing his powers by ignoring the Constitution and using the DOJ for political purposes, and if that is true, then Biden, Garland and others involved in this search have committed crimes, crimes serious enough to warrant impeachment.