Game of Thrones Season 7

[bodecea]

I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

I think you have been reading spoilers!


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I read everything. Besides, Dany has no means of defeating Euron's Navy right now. She needs the continent, not the seas.

Dragons can defeat the navy any time she wants

Not if they have the new ballistas.

 

[Montrovant]

I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

I think you have been reading spoilers!


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I read everything. Besides, Dany has no means of defeating Euron's Navy right now. She needs the continent, not the seas.

Dragons can defeat the navy any time she wants

Not if they have the new ballistas.

I would think a ballista would be very hard to use to hit a flying dragon from a ship. Maybe in very calm waters, but any roll would make it damn difficult, especially since none of the crew could have that much practice with them (new as they are). And that assumes there has been enough time to produce them and put them aboard the ships; the timeframes involved are not clear.

Also, I am pretty sure the plural is ballistae.

 

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Montrovant, rightwinger, GHook93, mamooth, martybegan, and anyone else who's posted in this thread.

Major nerd alert here... but what do you all know about the Targaryen's Blackfyre sword? It's last known location was with the Golden Company that was founded and I think still probably headquartered in Volantis. In last night's episode, Melisandre told Varys she will head to Volantis before returning to Westeros....

What do you think about my theory that she's going to go fetch Blackfyre?

I haven't a clue. I don't remember anything about the sword. I suppose it's possible she'd be getting it, but why? There haven't been any magical weapons in the show or books that I can think of, although Valyrian steel kills white walkers, if I'm remembering correctly.

In the books it's the sword traditionally wielded by the Targaryen king, passed down from Aegon the Conqueror. It was the cause of a huge civil war and 4 rebellions between the Targaryen's when a bastard was given the sword over the legitimate heir, starting about 100 years before GoT. It's last known whereabouts is in Volantis.

I don't know if it will appear in the show, but I bet the books will make room for it.

 

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I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

I think you have been reading spoilers!


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I read everything. Besides, Dany has no means of defeating Euron's Navy right now. She needs the continent, not the seas.

Dragons can defeat the navy any time she wants

Not if they have the new ballistas.

A ballista killed one of Aegon the Conqueror's 3 dragons.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

Cersei has gotten a lot smarter since her first attempt at power behind the throne with Jofffrey.

She figured out Castily Rock would be a target, and the Tyrells would be pretty much defenseless without Tarly to back them up.

I'm sure that was Jamie's thinking, not hers.

Maybe, but she has definitely gotten smarter the past few seasons, not book smart, but cunning smart.

Usually Cersei is good idea, bad idea bad idea terrible idea ok idea, bad idea.

So far its been a string of good ideas, very evil good ideas, but good ideas.

 

[mamooth]

Episode thoughts ...

Bran, couldn't you have given your sister a hug in return? And way to make it awkward, with the "I saw you getting raped in my visions" thing. Geez. Couldn't you have picked some other vision to establish your credibility?

I was happy to see Bronn, even if he didn't speak. He can't save Tyene, but he might hear about it. I think both he and Jaime will eventually break with Cersei.

Promo for next ep showed Arya viewing Winterfell (with its flat rooftops that would collapse under heavy snow, but I digress) in the distance. And now vision-boy who sees all is home. Might be Littlefinger will try to assassinate Bran.

 

[GHook93]

http://www.therichest.com/world-ent...rgaryen-should-not-end-up-on-the-iron-throne/

This article makes a great case for why you should root against Daenery


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[GHook93]

I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

Cersei has gotten a lot smarter since her first attempt at power behind the throne with Jofffrey.

She figured out Castily Rock would be a target, and the Tyrells would be pretty much defenseless without Tarly to back them up.

I'm sure that was Jamie's thinking, not hers.

Maybe, but she has definitely gotten smarter the past few seasons, not book smart, but cunning smart.

Usually Cersei is good idea, bad idea bad idea terrible idea ok idea, bad idea.

So far its been a string of good ideas, very evil good ideas, but good ideas.

Admit you were a little glad Cersei got to take her revenge on Sand Snakes.


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[Cosmos]

I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

Cersei has gotten a lot smarter since her first attempt at power behind the throne with Jofffrey.

She figured out Castily Rock would be a target, and the Tyrells would be pretty much defenseless without Tarly to back them up.

I'm sure that was Jamie's thinking, not hers.

Maybe, but she has definitely gotten smarter the past few seasons, not book smart, but cunning smart.

Usually Cersei is good idea, bad idea bad idea terrible idea ok idea, bad idea.

So far its been a string of good ideas, very evil good ideas, but good ideas.

Admit you were a little glad Cersei got to take her revenge on Sand Snakes.


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Be a pity to see that little hottie die before we get to see a little more of her though.

 

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Not if they have the new ballistas.

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

 

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Saw this on reddit; a guy asked what dragon people were hoping that Jon would get to ride. 1st response? Danaerys.

 

[GHook93]

Saw this on reddit; a guy asked what dragon people were hoping that Jon would get to ride. 1st response? Danaerys.

Haha that is a good one!


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[martybegan]

I wonder if Dany is going to decide to throw in with Jon and fight the white walkers, leaving Cersei to think she has won......right up until Arya assassinates her?

I think that they're either going to play out the Dany vs. Targaryen war and then deal with the white walkers, or try to unite the kingdom against the white walkers leaving Cersei in charge of her armies. If they do the latter, I think a good plot turn would be for Cersei to betray everyone in the hope that the white walkers will kill off her enemies, and for Jamie to kill her for it after finally realizing how crazy she is.

Cersei has gotten a lot smarter since her first attempt at power behind the throne with Jofffrey.

She figured out Castily Rock would be a target, and the Tyrells would be pretty much defenseless without Tarly to back them up.

I'm sure that was Jamie's thinking, not hers.

Maybe, but she has definitely gotten smarter the past few seasons, not book smart, but cunning smart.

Usually Cersei is good idea, bad idea bad idea terrible idea ok idea, bad idea.

So far its been a string of good ideas, very evil good ideas, but good ideas.

Admit you were a little glad Cersei got to take her revenge on Sand Snakes.


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Yeah killing the one innocent Lannister woman was a dick move, so she got her comeuppance.

I think i said it before, there are very few "good" people in Game of Thrones, just lesser degrees of bad.

 

[martybegan]

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Not if they have the new ballistas.

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

Dragons aren't very fast flyers, and maybe they wait for it to land.

Plus they can make a crap ton of them.

 

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Not if they have the new ballistas.

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

Dragons aren't very fast flyers, and maybe they wait for it to land.

Plus they can make a crap ton of them.

In the history of the GoT world 18 Dragons have been killed in battle. Only 1 was killed by a ballista and it was considered a lucky shot that hit through the eyesocket. The other dragons were all killed by either other dragons or because they had been chained up by the owners and couldn't fight back.

I think the dragons have too much plot armor, and the ballista arrow is going to bounce off of one almost comedically before it blasts everyone with fire.

 

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[martybegan]

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Not if they have the new ballistas.

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

Dragons aren't very fast flyers, and maybe they wait for it to land.

Plus they can make a crap ton of them.

In the history of the GoT world 18 Dragons have been killed in battle. Only 1 was killed by a ballista and it was considered a lucky shot that hit through the eyesocket. The other dragons were all killed by either other dragons or because they had been chained up by the owners and couldn't fight back.

I think the dragons have too much plot armor, and the ballista arrow is going to bounce off of one almost comedically before it blasts everyone with fire.

Qyburn is a crafty one, and one of the damn things has to die, everything dies on this show.

The big question is if the Night King makes his own wight dragons or does one of the three succumb to him.

 

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Not if they have the new ballistas.

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

Dragons aren't very fast flyers, and maybe they wait for it to land.

Plus they can make a crap ton of them.

In the history of the GoT world 18 Dragons have been killed in battle. Only 1 was killed by a ballista and it was considered a lucky shot that hit through the eyesocket. The other dragons were all killed by either other dragons or because they had been chained up by the owners and couldn't fight back.

I think the dragons have too much plot armor, and the ballista arrow is going to bounce off of one almost comedically before it blasts everyone with fire.

Qyburn is a crafty one, and one of the damn things has to die, everything dies on this show.

The big question is if the Night King makes his own wight dragons or does one of the three succumb to him.

If a dragon dies before the real war starts, then the whole prophesy they've been pushing about the dragon having three heads will have been for nothing.

 

[Montrovant]

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Not if they have the new ballistas.

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

Dragons aren't very fast flyers, and maybe they wait for it to land.

Plus they can make a crap ton of them.

In the history of the GoT world 18 Dragons have been killed in battle. Only 1 was killed by a ballista and it was considered a lucky shot that hit through the eyesocket. The other dragons were all killed by either other dragons or because they had been chained up by the owners and couldn't fight back.

I think the dragons have too much plot armor, and the ballista arrow is going to bounce off of one almost comedically before it blasts everyone with fire.

Qyburn is a crafty one, and one of the damn things has to die, everything dies on this show.

The big question is if the Night King makes his own wight dragons or does one of the three succumb to him.

If a dragon dies before the real war starts, then the whole prophesy they've been pushing about the dragon having three heads will have been for nothing.

It's a prophecy; they are usually not straightforward. The dragon having 3 heads could mean that Dany is queen over Jon Snow and someone else, be it Cersei or Jaimie or some other leader.

 

[martybegan]

How are they going to train to use the ballistas against a flying target? It is not like they have target drones to train with.

Dragons aren't very fast flyers, and maybe they wait for it to land.

Plus they can make a crap ton of them.

In the history of the GoT world 18 Dragons have been killed in battle. Only 1 was killed by a ballista and it was considered a lucky shot that hit through the eyesocket. The other dragons were all killed by either other dragons or because they had been chained up by the owners and couldn't fight back.

I think the dragons have too much plot armor, and the ballista arrow is going to bounce off of one almost comedically before it blasts everyone with fire.

Qyburn is a crafty one, and one of the damn things has to die, everything dies on this show.

The big question is if the Night King makes his own wight dragons or does one of the three succumb to him.

If a dragon dies before the real war starts, then the whole prophesy they've been pushing about the dragon having three heads will have been for nothing.

It's a prophecy; they are usually not straightforward. The dragon having 3 heads could mean that Dany is queen over Jon Snow and someone else, be it Cersei or Jaimie or some other leader.

Or it could mean Dany, Snow and Tyrion (there are some theories he's the son of the mad king, not Tywin)