Future polling

[Mac1958]

Not that we really needed the reminder, but it sure does look like polling companies either need a new approach or a new fuckin' profession.

Here's a thought: As I've pointed out elsewhere, poet Maya Angelou once said, "People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did. But people will never forget how you made them feel." Has there ever been a more appropriate description of the American electorate?

If I were one of these pollsters, I would consider focusing on the mindset of the electorate. Anger, fear, frustration, comfort, satisfaction. I'd try to find a way to gauge that through questions, because it sure looks like asking people to name names ain't working.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/11/06/2024-election-results-live-coverage-updates-analysis/polls-miss-mark-00187820

 

[1srelluc]

What a crock of shit this one was.

Top Battlegrounds – RCP Average

www.realclearpolling.com

 

[MarathonMike]

It's interesting that the Brazilian company AtlasIntel has been spot on in the last 3 elections while US pollsters suck balls. Fortunately the RCP poll averages even out the innaccuracies and provided a reasonably accurate result.

 

[citygator]

Not that we really needed the reminder, but it sure does look like polling companies either need a new approach or a new fuckin' profession.

Here's a thought: As I've pointed out elsewhere, poet Maya Angelou once said, "People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did. But people will never forget how you made them feel." Has there ever been a more appropriate description of the American electorate?

If I were one of these pollsters, I would consider focusing on the mindset of the electorate. Anger, fear, frustration, comfort, satisfaction. I'd try to find a way to gauge that through questions, because it sure looks like asking people to name names ain't working.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/11/06/2024-election-results-live-coverage-updates-analysis/polls-miss-mark-00187820

Goes back to such a closely divided electorate you can’t tell from polls how they will vote. Basically a few swing voters people are making the decision. Not sure how you figure that out.

 

[Rogue AI]

Nothing will change if there are no consequences for the utter failures we've seen year after year. Trump's internal polling obviously worked, twice. So clearly some folks know what they are doing.

 

[Billiejeens]

Rasmussen was probably the most accurate US based one.

Democrats hate them.

 

[dblack]

Not that we really needed the reminder, but it sure does look like polling companies either need a new approach or a new fuckin' profession.

The problem is broader than that. Elections, especially Presidential elections, are media feeding frenzies. And they do whatever is necessary to get eyes glued to the TV. It's like Christmas and New Year's for the talking heads.

I think we'd do ourselves a huge favor if we stopped releasing preliminary vote counts. It promotes the false narrative that it's a "race", and that someone is "leading" or "trailing" at any given point in time. That's what drove so much of the stolen election delusion in 2020. The election is over when the polls close. The decision has been made. No one is ahead or behind simply because more of their votes have been counted.

States should wait until all the counting is done and avoid giving out preliminary results.

 

[Billiejeens]

Nothing will change if there are no consequences for the utter failures we've seen year after year. Trump's internal polling obviously worked, twice. So clearly some folks know what they are doing.

Most polls aren't shaped to gage voter support for a candidate, they are set up to move support to a Democrat candidate.

 

[imawhosure]

Not that we really needed the reminder, but it sure does look like polling companies either need a new approach or a new fuckin' profession.

Here's a thought: As I've pointed out elsewhere, poet Maya Angelou once said, "People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did. But people will never forget how you made them feel." Has there ever been a more appropriate description of the American electorate?

If I were one of these pollsters, I would consider focusing on the mindset of the electorate. Anger, fear, frustration, comfort, satisfaction. I'd try to find a way to gauge that through questions, because it sure looks like asking people to name names ain't working.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/11/06/2024-election-results-live-coverage-updates-analysis/polls-miss-mark-00187820

LOL Mac, seriously speaking, how do expect most pollsters to come up with an accurate view?

If I called all Democrats Nazis, Fascists, misogynists, etc, AND was law faring the hell out of a bunch of them.......or even their leader; when called on the phone, what do you think most people would say! They would be like......."oh hell no!" This is exactly why Trump consistently over performed the polls. I told you almost exactly the same thing on the verge of the 2020 election. You all have to look in the mirror and understand that if this all really bothers you, then you can not blame the pollsters. Instead, you have to blame what the pollsters are being told when they ask respondents, and the reason they are being told what they are is--------------->because your side not only derides the other sides candidate, (which is fair) but you also call their supporters names not seen since the early 1940s.........and while doing it, basically punish everyone economically, and legally. And you want those people to be forthcoming, lol. You really are kidding, are you not!