Fusion Energy Will Change Everything

[Batcat]

If the liberals get their way we will be stuck with solar and wind power and electric vehicles. We will have to live with brownouts and blackouts and uncharged cars.

This will not be the first time this happened.

Nikola Tesla free energy device: the greatest secret of inventor

At the turn of the last century, Nikola Tesla registered patents for a revolutionary free energy device designed to convert natural cosmic energy into electricity.

www.nuenergy.org

At the turn of the last century, a prolific inventor registered patents for a revolutionary energy device designed to convert natural cosmic energy into electricity. Nikola Tesla was born in Serbia in 1956 and emigrated to the U. S. in 1884. There, he started out working for fellow inventor Thomas Edison, and before long, Tesla established his own companies and labs where he developed the prototypes for technologies still in service today. Among these are the AC induction motor and transformer, early X-ray technology and a steam-powered oscillator. During his lifetime, the inventor registered more than 700 patents for his cutting-edge concepts.

APPARATUS FOR THE UTILIZATION OF RADIANT ENERGY​

Nikola Tesla obtained two patents for his radiant energy device in 1901. According to the inventor, the sun emits positively charged radiant energy, and the earth harbors negatively charged energy. When these two forces come together, they create a powerful cosmic force.

He designed his device to access this power and convert it into electricity. With this unlimited source of universal energy, which could be transmitted by wire or wirelessly throughout the planet, Tesla proposed to eliminate the need for gas, oil, coal and any other fuel for powering the industrial world.


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WHY THE RADIANT ENERGY DEVICE NEVER REACHED THE MAINSTREAM​

During his time, Tesla was called “the Modern Miracle-Worker” who is “Harnessing the Rays of the Sun, has Discovered Ways of Transmitting Power without Wires and of Seeing by Telephone; has Invented a Means of Employing Electricity as a Fertiliser; and, Finally, is Able to Manufacture Artificial Daylight”. There were many eyewitness to Tesla’s demonstations of “harnessing the rays of sun” who confirmed that he was able to deliver free electricity.

Historians speculate that U.S. political influence, driven by industrialists who wished to preserve the direct current status quo, doomed Tesla’s Radiant Energy Apparatus to obscurity for the next 100 years. The powerful fossil fuel industry and its investors also balked at the inventor’s boast that his device would replace all forms of energy in use at the time. Therefore, Tesla’s device remained untested in actual use. Speculation and controversy continue to shroud the great inventor’s brainchild, even as renewed enthusiasm celebrates his avant-garde vision.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The dems already oppose fusion. They shut down our super collider being built in texas. That was back during the time of clinton. It would of, and still would be the largest in the world.

I think the SSC was shut down because it was being built in a crappy location.
It should have been built as an expansion of Fermilab in Batavia Illinois.

 

[Oddball]

The recent fusion energy breakthrough may well be the solution to a great many problems. It uses fuel obtained from sea water. It produces no radioactive waste. It produces no greenhouse gases. In six months the Japanese will have built one that fits into a Cooper Mini which will then do 0-60 in 0.86 seconds ; - )

Super!

Now you enviro-moonbats can cease flushing hundreds of billions of dollars down the toilet, subsidizing wind and solar scams that will never ever net dollar one!

 

[Redfish]

The recent fusion energy breakthrough may well be the solution to a great many problems. It uses fuel obtained from sea water. It produces no radioactive waste. It produces no greenhouse gases. In six months the Japanese will have built one that fits into a Cooper Mini which will then do 0-60 in 0.86 seconds ; - )

and if that happens it will be a great step for humanity, but it won't be free and it won't happen for quite a while. your 'Japan will do it in 6 months', is a pipedream.

 

[Batcat]

I think the SSC was shut down because it was being built in a crappy location.
It should have been built as an expansion of Fermilab in Batavia Illinois.

I remember a lot of idiots in Congress who thought The cost was too high.

Why The World's Largest Super Collider Was Abandoned

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Particle accelerators enjoy both scientific and cultural enthusiasm. Everyday people are awed by the immense complexity of the machines and their promises for technological advancement. Some even come up with strange conspiracy theories surrounding accelerators. This enthusiasm helps drive many science projects and was a notable part of why Texas' Super Collider looked promising -- until that excitement disappeared that is.

As noted by Scientific American, the Superconducting Super Collider (SSC) initially had a lot of support from both the Texas government and local communities. But once construction began, reality hit and State enthusiasm fell through.

In 2013 Texas Monthly talked with Roy Schwitters, former director of the SSC, about why the project fell through. "By 1992 the Cold War was over. From the end of World War II to then, we had an existential threat from a society that was damn good at science and math. It led to the space program and physics research and education that supported us through grad school. That threat is no longer with us. And society is still deliberating how to deal with that."

 

[Batcat]

Super!

Now you enviro-moonbats can cease flushing hundreds of billions of dollars down the toilet, subsidizing wind and solar scams that will never ever net dollar one!

The Dems will not give up on solar and wind. They have got big donations (bribes) to implement those programs so they have to deliver.

Let’s not forget most of the Democratic Party is corrupt from the top down. The Republican Party is not much better.

 

[elektra]

I think the SSC was shut down because it was being built in a crappy location.
It should have been built as an expansion of Fermilab in Batavia Illinois.

It was all politics.

Political that Bush would spend that kind of money in Texas.

Political when a Democrat became president and claimed the price was too expensive.

 

[jc456]

The dems already oppose fusion. They shut down our super collider being built in texas. That was back during the time of clinton. It would of, and still would be the largest in the world.

We have a super collider here in Illinois city of Batavia, Fermilab's.

 

[jc456]

The Dems will not give up on solar and wind. They have got big donations (bribes) to implement those programs so they have to deliver.

Let’s not forget most of the Democratic Party is corrupt from the top down. The Republican Party is not much better.

It's always about the money. Politicians, all of em. Not a one is not in some money scheme payback getting rich while life to citizens suffer.

 

[ReinyDays]

The dems already oppose fusion. They shut down our super collider being built in texas. That was back during the time of clinton. It would of, and still would be the largest in the world.

What does particle accelerators have to do with fusion? ... protons at the speed of light crash into each other everyplace in the universe all the time ... that's doesn't cause fusion ... we also need very high temperature and most importantly very high pressure ... like more pressure than the exact center of Jupiter ...

I as disappointed as well when that program was shut down as well ... Republicans always out to cut budgets on liberal projects ... if I remember correctly, Texas is infested with fire ants ... an this ruins any electric systems underground, like the particle accelerator ... fans of Mark Twain will get a laugh out of this citation:

There is much controversy concerning the purported factors that contribute to an ant’s attraction to electrical utilities. According to Dr. S. Bradleigh Vinson, after a single ant becomes shocked by an electrical current in an electrical box, the shocked ant waves its abdomen in the air in order to release pheromones. These pheromones attract other ants to the source of electricity. Once other ants arrive they become shocked just by touching the ants that had already been shocked. Eventually, a multitude of ants will surround an electrical box, causing it to malfunction and shut off. Carpenter ants have been found to cause irrigation systems in Florida to malfunction by tinkering with the electrical circuit boards located on the irrigation systems. Despite this noticeable trend, experts still cannot explain the fire ant’s initial attraction to electricity. Ants can also cause short-circuits by chewing through the rubber coating around electrical wires.

-- B&B Pest Control advertising copy -- Lynn, MA --- 2022

 

[Crick]

You think?????? And here you are, wrong. You dont get tired of being wrong?
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This would appear to be some sort of large scale public event. That's not exactly "hanging out together".

 

[Crick]

The dems already oppose fusion. They shut down our super collider being built in texas. That was back during the time of clinton. It would of, and still would be the largest in the world.

As Reiny Days pointed out, the Superconducting Super Collider (SSC) had not investigating fusion energy research though it may well have discovered helpful information. Reiny is wrong when he says that proton-proton collisions don't cause fusion but given that the particles produced by the impacts of individual protons freely fly apart, it is nothing like what is going on in a fusion reactor.

 

[Crick]

As Reiny Days pointed out, the Superconducting Super Collider (SSC) had not investigating fusion energy research though it may well have discovered helpful information. Reiny is wrong when he says that proton-proton collisions don't cause fusion but given that the particles produced by the impacts of individual protons freely fly apart, it is nothing like what is going on in a fusion reactor.

From the Wikipedia article on the Super Collider

Many factors contributed to the cancellation:[4] rising cost estimates (to $12bn);[27] poor management by physicists and Department of Energy officials; the end of the need to prove the supremacy of American science with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War; belief that many smaller scientific experiments of equal merit could be funded for the same cost; Congress's desire to generally reduce spending (the United States was running a $255bn budget deficit); the reluctance of Texas Governor Ann Richards;[28] and President Bill Clinton's initial lack of support for a project begun during the administrations of Richards's predecessor, Bill Clements, and Clinton's predecessors, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush.[29] The project's cancellation was also eased by opposition from within the scientific community. Prominent condensed matter physicists, such as Philip W. Anderson and Nicolaas Bloembergen, testified before Congress opposing the project. They argued that, although the SSC would certainly conduct high-quality research, it was not the only way to acquire new fundamental knowledge, as some of its supporters claimed, and so was unreasonably expensive. Scientific critics of the SSC pointed out that basic research in other areas, such as condensed matter physics and materials science, was underfunded compared to high energy physics, despite the fact that those fields were more likely to produce applications with technological and economic benefits.[30]

The House and Senate were majority democratic at that time, but there is no evidence that democrats in general are opposed to fusion research. That is simply more of the inaccurate, denigratory generalizations the conservatives here on the board seem to enjoy making. ; - )

 

[Rambunctious]

For some reason it would not surprise me if the Dems oppose Fusion but want to use wind turbines and solar panels instead.

Yes because they are made where the dems launder money... in China...

 

[trevorjohnson83]

The recent fusion energy breakthrough may well be the solution to a great many problems. It uses fuel obtained from sea water. It produces no radioactive waste. It produces no greenhouse gases. In six months the Japanese will have built one that fits into a Cooper Mini which will then do 0-60 in 0.86 seconds ; - )

Couple things. For one the world uses several tonnes of fusion fuel a day and that's a lot greater then a pellet. There's no way they will ever keep a fusion temperature going so rule out the continuous burning ideas for power plants. So your left with lasers. They want to convert explosive energy into electricity. I have a patent on a power plant that does just that. Still I think its the heat that causes global warming, not carbon, if you just spray water mist into smoke, and the government invest in that rather then far off fusion, it might cool things off better then being 'carbon free' and 'cooling' things down.

 

[elektra]

This would appear to be some sort of large scale public event. That's not exactly "hanging out together".

Your contention than, is Biden is unlike Trump seeings how trump hangs out with anti-semites?

Trump does not hang out with anti-semites.

WHat we do have is Biden and the Democratic party, who are clearly anti-semites.

 

[elektra]

From the Wikipedia article on the Super Collider

Many factors contributed to the cancellation:[4] rising cost estimates (to $12bn);[27] poor management by physicists and Department of Energy officials; the end of the need to prove the supremacy of American science with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War; belief that many smaller scientific experiments of equal merit could be funded for the same cost; Congress's desire to generally reduce spending (the United States was running a $255bn budget deficit); the reluctance of Texas Governor Ann Richards;[28] and President Bill Clinton's initial lack of support for a project begun during the administrations of Richards's predecessor, Bill Clements, and Clinton's predecessors, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush.[29] The project's cancellation was also eased by opposition from within the scientific community. Prominent condensed matter physicists, such as Philip W. Anderson and Nicolaas Bloembergen, testified before Congress opposing the project. They argued that, although the SSC would certainly conduct high-quality research, it was not the only way to acquire new fundamental knowledge, as some of its supporters claimed, and so was unreasonably expensive. Scientific critics of the SSC pointed out that basic research in other areas, such as condensed matter physics and materials science, was underfunded compared to high energy physics, despite the fact that those fields were more likely to produce applications with technological and economic benefits.[30]

The House and Senate were majority democratic at that time, but there is no evidence that democrats in general are opposed to fusion research. That is simply more of the inaccurate, denigratory generalizations the conservatives here on the board seem to enjoy making. ; - )

The Democratic party refused to be part of science the Republicans initiated.

Wikipedia? After the fact covering for the anti-science democratic party.

 

[elektra]

What does particle accelerators have to do with fusion? ... protons at the speed of light crash into each other everyplace in the universe all the time ... that's doesn't cause fusion ... we also need very high temperature and most importantly very high pressure ... like more pressure than the exact center of Jupiter

So what are they used for? Neither fission or fusion.

Research about particles and physics. Research that is applicable to everything.

 

[JohnDB]

Fission is containible. Fusion is not.

Most alternators that can produce the electricity we need are huge...very huge and very heavy. Now as an alternator begins to turn the magnetic forces created act as a brake on the spinning armature. They are trying to slow it down....and it's weight does lend itself to do so.
Now as it is most alternator bearings are as tough as they come. But the armature is still so heavy that a complete stop will dimple the bearings causing them to be replaced. Not in every case, but still more often than not anymore.

But because we are talking about machinery that is this large it requires at least a week to get the phasing correct...a month for a new one to seat and become stable. (Bad stuff happens when electricity is out of phase)

Transmission voltage is high...very high and in three phases but the hz is very low. We transmit power at 15 hz but it's distributed at 60 hz. It's filtered and corrected with a capacitor bank at the switch yards. Most loads are Inductive. Your average home has at least 20 electric motors....from the 3 for your heat pump using the most power to the dishwasher pumping water to wash your dishes...and don't forget all the little coils that transform power for all your low voltage devices like LED lights. (On your Christmas tree) They create inductance too.

All these devices create a huge demand...and it takes a LOT of energy to meet this demand. More than a puff of wind or passive sunlight can provide.

Get used to the idea...those windmills south of Chicago barely scratch the surface of demand but yet they go for miles and miles in every direction.

 

[Crick]

Fission is containible. Fusion is not.

Most alternators that can produce the electricity we need are huge...very huge and very heavy. Now as an alternator begins to turn the magnetic forces created act as a brake on the spinning armature. They are trying to slow it down....and it's weight does lend itself to do so.
Now as it is most alternator bearings are as tough as they come. But the armature is still so heavy that a complete stop will dimple the bearings causing them to be replaced. Not in every case, but still more often than not anymore.

But because we are talking about machinery that is this large it requires at least a week to get the phasing correct...a month for a new one to seat and become stable. (Bad stuff happens when electricity is out of phase)

Transmission voltage is high...very high and in three phases but the hz is very low. We transmit power at 15 hz but it's distributed at 60 hz. It's filtered and corrected with a capacitor bank at the switch yards. Most loads are Inductive. Your average home has at least 20 electric motors....from the 3 for your heat pump using the most power to the dishwasher pumping water to wash your dishes...and don't forget all the little coils that transform power for all your low voltage devices like LED lights. (On your Christmas tree) They create inductance too.

All these devices create a huge demand...and it takes a LOT of energy to meet this demand. More than a puff of wind or passive sunlight can provide.

Get used to the idea...those windmills south of Chicago barely scratch the surface of demand but yet they go for miles and miles in every direction.

What the fuck are you babbling about? The wind turbines south of Chicago are doing just fine and 400 billion kWh were produced in the US by wind and solar technology last year. And, of course, they are still expanding while coal, oil and gas are shrinking.