From the Desk of Captain Obvious

[rightwinger]

It has long been established that the democrats resent the Electoral College because they don’t want ‘the wrong sort of people’ to have a vote that counts. This impeachment farce is their attempt at circumnavigating the pesky problem of letting Americans vote at all. If they get their way in this absurd performance, it will obviate the need for national elections at all.

Impeachment is a criminal proceeding against a president.
Has nothing to do with overturning the results of an election and everything to do with holding a President accountable for his actions

Nonsense!

This Impeachment has been nothing but overturning the 2016 vote!

Our founders were well aware of the vote
They also understood they needed a process to remove corrupt and criminal politicians.

They are not the same

Founders understood that no President is above the law

 

[JLW]

Impeachment is a criminal proceeding against a president.

This is false. Impeachment is a political proceeding, not a criminal one. There are no criminal punishments attached to one being impeached and found guilty, they are just out of a job.

Impeachment is the only power Congress has to reign in a rogue president. If you make that power irrelevant, the we truly are electing a king every four years who can then do what they please.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I have no idea where that came from. Coming from the side that has Moscow Mitch, a man who stymies every attempt to safeguard our elections from foreign interference. I suppose you also buy into Trump’s lies of voter fraud. You know that lie promulgated as a way to undermine the results of our national elections.

Tell the board what fake news caused voters to abandon Hillary Clinton in key States like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania?

Also you have to give an exact news story that was fake that caused those voters to turn against her?

Finally, you do know Schiff did state that the Impeachment is actually about the 2020 election and his belief that Trump will steal it?

Your post has nothing to do with the OP with his absurd thesis nor with my post that deals with the OPs absurd thesis.

Actually it does have everything to do with what you wrote when you brought up Mitch McConnell and foreign interference into our elections!

Why you refuse to answer is because the fact is you are lying in your comments and trying to sell the Democrats talking points!

Also you are upset that Schiff himself made it clear that the Impeachment is about the 2020 election and now you want to ignore his own words!

So if you do not want to discuss foreign interference then do not bring it up!

No, impeachment is a remedy for a rogue president. Either you believe in the power of Congress or not. As far as foreign interference, the country has not done nearly enough to protect the integrity of our elections. That should be non-partisan, but for some reason it is not.

Again, point to a fake story that you believe changed the 2016 Election?

I have requested this three times and why because I know which incident you are claiming was interference and fake and the Wikileaks Scandal was not fake and truthfully is not what caused Hillary to lose...

Jame Comey caused Trump to win!

Also how is Trump anymore rogue than Bill Clinton bombing Iraq on the eve of Impeachment vote?

Or

George W. Bush invading Iraq?

Or

Barack Obama using drones in countries like Yemen?

If you had no issues with those three things then you should not be upset about Trump!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Impeachment is a criminal proceeding against a president.

This is false. Impeachment is a political proceeding, not a criminal one. There are no criminal punishments attached to one being impeached and found guilty, they are just out of a job.

Impeachment is the only power Congress has to reign in a rogue president. If you make that power irrelevant, the we truly are electing a king every four years who can then do what they please.

Well then you love Kings when Obama was using his executive orders and drones...

 

[JLW]

I have no idea where that came from. Coming from the side that has Moscow Mitch, a man who stymies every attempt to safeguard our elections from foreign interference. I suppose you also buy into Trump’s lies of voter fraud. You know that lie promulgated as a way to undermine the results of our national elections.

Tell the board what fake news caused voters to abandon Hillary Clinton in key States like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania?

Also you have to give an exact news story that was fake that caused those voters to turn against her?

Finally, you do know Schiff did state that the Impeachment is actually about the 2020 election and his belief that Trump will steal it?

Your post has nothing to do with the OP with his absurd thesis nor with my post that deals with the OPs absurd thesis.

Actually it does have everything to do with what you wrote when you brought up Mitch McConnell and foreign interference into our elections!

Why you refuse to answer is because the fact is you are lying in your comments and trying to sell the Democrats talking points!

Also you are upset that Schiff himself made it clear that the Impeachment is about the 2020 election and now you want to ignore his own words!

So if you do not want to discuss foreign interference then do not bring it up!

No, impeachment is a remedy for a rogue president. Either you believe in the power of Congress or not. As far as foreign interference, the country has not done nearly enough to protect the integrity of our elections. That should be non-partisan, but for some reason it is not.

Again, point to a fake story that you believe changed the 2016 Election?



I have requested this three times and why because I know which incident you are claiming was interference and fake and the Wikileaks Scandal was not fake and truthfully is not what caused Hillary to lose...

Jame Comey caused Trump to win!

Also how is Trump anymore rogue than Bill Clinton bombing Iraq on the eve of Impeachment vote?

Or

George W. Bush invading Iraq?

Or

Barack Obama using drones in countries like Yemen?

If you had no issues with those three things then you should not be upset about Trump!

Hillary lost because of Hillary with an assist from James Comey. That does not mean that Russia did interfere in our elections and sought to sway votes. All our intelligence agencies say so.

Trump won the election with a minuscule amount of votes in Michigan, Penn and Wisconsin. His average margin of victory was about. .05% That was it. Given all the conservatives in this board who buy into Russian propaganda, it is no stretch to believe that .05% of the electorate bought into this Russian disinformation campaign as well.

 

[bripat9643]

It has long been established that the democrats resent the Electoral College because they don’t want ‘the wrong sort of people’ to have a vote that counts. This impeachment farce is their attempt at circumnavigating the pesky problem of letting Americans vote at all. If they get their way in this absurd performance, it will obviate the need for national elections at all.

Impeachment is a criminal proceeding against a president.
Has nothing to do with overturning the results of an election and everything to do with holding a President accountable for his actions

The people who performed the impeachment kept saying that impeachment is a political process, not a legal process. It's not a criminal proceeding, moron.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It has long been established that the democrats resent the Electoral College because they don’t want ‘the wrong sort of people’ to have a vote that counts. This impeachment farce is their attempt at circumnavigating the pesky problem of letting Americans vote at all. If they get their way in this absurd performance, it will obviate the need for national elections at all.

Impeachment is a criminal proceeding against a president.
Has nothing to do with overturning the results of an election and everything to do with holding a President accountable for his actions

The people who performed the impeachment kept saying that impeachment is a political process, not a legal process. It's not a criminal proceeding, moron.

Right. And you don't have to break the law to get fired from your job.

 

[there4eyeM]

That the Democrats have mishandled this is painfully clear. Unfortunately, this is lamentably consistent with how both parties that form the duopoly in power do things. Nothing is important to them but maintaining their hold. This is done through uncessing distraction, discord and dishonesty. Thus they serve well their masters, and disserve their betters, the people.

 

[Norman]

It has long been established that the democrats resent the Electoral College because they don’t want ‘the wrong sort of people’ to have a vote that counts. This impeachment farce is their attempt at circumnavigating the pesky problem of letting Americans vote at all. If they get their way in this absurd performance, it will obviate the need for national elections at all.

They love the Electoral College!


Only if their candidate win it...

Imagine if Trump win the Popular Vote and Electoral College this November?

Democrats will be beside themselves and mass suicides possible...

Anyhoo, Schiff and Pelosi made it clear they want the Senate and Oval Office and this Impeachment is about the November election and if Democrats lose then Schiff and Pelosi can claim fraud...

A Republican may never win the popular vote again due almost entirely to New York and California.

A republican - nor an American ever win the election again unless immigration is reverted.

 

[bripat9643]

It has long been established that the democrats resent the Electoral College because they don’t want ‘the wrong sort of people’ to have a vote that counts. This impeachment farce is their attempt at circumnavigating the pesky problem of letting Americans vote at all. If they get their way in this absurd performance, it will obviate the need for national elections at all.

Impeachment is a criminal proceeding against a president.
Has nothing to do with overturning the results of an election and everything to do with holding a President accountable for his actions

The people who performed the impeachment kept saying that impeachment is a political process, not a legal process. It's not a criminal proceeding, moron.

Right. And you don't have to break the law to get fired from your job.

Argue with Rightwinger. He's the one saying the charges against Trump are criminal.

 

[bripat9643]

It has long been established that the democrats resent the Electoral College because they don’t want ‘the wrong sort of people’ to have a vote that counts. This impeachment farce is their attempt at circumnavigating the pesky problem of letting Americans vote at all. If they get their way in this absurd performance, it will obviate the need for national elections at all.

They love the Electoral College!


Only if their candidate win it...

Imagine if Trump win the Popular Vote and Electoral College this November?

Democrats will be beside themselves and mass suicides possible...

Anyhoo, Schiff and Pelosi made it clear they want the Senate and Oval Office and this Impeachment is about the November election and if Democrats lose then Schiff and Pelosi can claim fraud...

A Republican may never win the popular vote again due almost entirely to New York and California.

A republican - nor an American ever win the election again unless immigration is reverted.

Trump has cut it by 90%. If that figure is maintained, then the problem is pretty much solved.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He's the one saying the charges against Trump are criminal.

In the context that, for anyone but a sitting president they would be crimes, he is correct. The FBI spends a great deal of time investigating our officials for this type of abuse of power.

 

[SAYIT]

I have no idea where that came from. Coming from the side that has Moscow Mitch, a man who stymies every attempt to safeguard our elections from foreign interference. I suppose you also buy into Trump’s lies of voter fraud. You know that lie promulgated as a way to undermine the results of our national elections.

LOL

 

[Unkotare]

I have no idea where that came from. Coming from the side that has Moscow Mitch, a man who stymies every attempt to safeguard our elections from foreign interference. I suppose you also buy into Trump’s lies of voter fraud. You know that lie promulgated as a way to undermine the results of our national elections.

Tell the board what fake news caused voters to abandon Hillary Clinton in key States like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania?

Also you have to give an exact news story that was fake that caused those voters to turn against her?

Finally, you do know Schiff did state that the Impeachment is actually about the 2020 election and his belief that Trump will steal it?

Your post has nothing to do with the OP with his absurd thesis nor with my post that deals with the OPs absurd thesis.

Actually it does have everything to do with what you wrote when you brought up Mitch McConnell and foreign interference into our elections!

Why you refuse to answer is because the fact is you are lying in your comments and trying to sell the Democrats talking points!

Also you are upset that Schiff himself made it clear that the Impeachment is about the 2020 election and now you want to ignore his own words!

So if you do not want to discuss foreign interference then do not bring it up!

....Either you believe in the power of Congress or not. ...

Above the will of the people?

 

[JLW]

I have no idea where that came from. Coming from the side that has Moscow Mitch, a man who stymies every attempt to safeguard our elections from foreign interference. I suppose you also buy into Trump’s lies of voter fraud. You know that lie promulgated as a way to undermine the results of our national elections.

Tell the board what fake news caused voters to abandon Hillary Clinton in key States like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania?

Also you have to give an exact news story that was fake that caused those voters to turn against her?

Finally, you do know Schiff did state that the Impeachment is actually about the 2020 election and his belief that Trump will steal it?

Your post has nothing to do with the OP with his absurd thesis nor with my post that deals with the OPs absurd thesis.

Actually it does have everything to do with what you wrote when you brought up Mitch McConnell and foreign interference into our elections!

Why you refuse to answer is because the fact is you are lying in your comments and trying to sell the Democrats talking points!

Also you are upset that Schiff himself made it clear that the Impeachment is about the 2020 election and now you want to ignore his own words!

So if you do not want to discuss foreign interference then do not bring it up!

....Either you believe in the power of Congress or not. ...

Above the will of the people?

The will of the people is a red herring argument. The question is whether a President is accountable for his actions. If a President’s conduct is solely dependent on his poll ratings and popularity , then what is the function of congress or the courts. The rule of law is not a popularity contest.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Above the will of the people?

Yes, sometimes, of course. That is literally one of the main points of a republic system of government.

 

[bripat9643]

He's the one saying the charges against Trump are criminal.

In the context that, for anyone but a sitting president they would be crimes, he is correct. The FBI spends a great deal of time investigating our officials for this type of abuse of power.

Nope. They are not crimes under any circumstance.

 

[bripat9643]

Above the will of the people?

Yes, sometimes, of course. That is literally one of the main points of a republic system of government.

That is one of things turds like you constantly complain about.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They are not crimes under any circumstance.

Wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

Tell the board what fake news caused voters to abandon Hillary Clinton in key States like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania?

Also you have to give an exact news story that was fake that caused those voters to turn against her?

Finally, you do know Schiff did state that the Impeachment is actually about the 2020 election and his belief that Trump will steal it?

Your post has nothing to do with the OP with his absurd thesis nor with my post that deals with the OPs absurd thesis.

Actually it does have everything to do with what you wrote when you brought up Mitch McConnell and foreign interference into our elections!

Why you refuse to answer is because the fact is you are lying in your comments and trying to sell the Democrats talking points!

Also you are upset that Schiff himself made it clear that the Impeachment is about the 2020 election and now you want to ignore his own words!

So if you do not want to discuss foreign interference then do not bring it up!

....Either you believe in the power of Congress or not. ...

Above the will of the people?

The will of the people is a red herring argument. The question is whether a President is accountable for his actions. If a President’s conduct is solely dependent on his poll ratings and popularity , then what is the function of congress or the courts. The rule of law is not a popularity contest.

Trump didn't break any laws, moron.