Friendly Reminder: If you like borders, you hate the free market.

[mudwhistle]

I trust free markets.
Now, seal the border and boot 15 million illegal aliens.
To start.

"I trust free markets, so I am to kill the free market!" Smart!

You fucking asshole. STFU>

Not an argument!

Your statement doesn't deserve an argument.
Just an insult.....nothing more.
BTW, what country are you from?
I think we need to flood it with millions of welfare cases.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

A county with balls would have already rounded these illegals up and deported them!

See? You are even sending cops to round people up! You are using state violence to enforce your economic will. That's, like, super anti-capitalist.

Dont be any dumber than necessary.
Oops....to late.

Not an argument!

 

[mudwhistle]

I trust free markets.
Now, seal the border and boot 15 million illegal aliens.
To start.

"I trust free markets, so I am to kill the free market!" Smart!

You fucking asshole. STFU>

Not an argument!

^^^ look some liberal thinks he's being clever. We see right through this leftist troll nonsense.

Yeah....having borders is racist.

 

[mudwhistle]

A county with balls would have already rounded these illegals up and deported them!

See? You are even sending cops to round people up! You are using state violence to enforce your economic will. That's, like, super anti-capitalist.

Dont be any dumber than necessary.
Oops....to late.

Not an argument!

Borders are racist....so are doors and walls.
We need to kick down yours and take all of your shit.
Where do you live?

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Yeah....having borders is racist.

Your confusing the current argument for the strawman zeitgeist that conservatives have built.

Come on, it's not that hard. Just admit that you part of your views are anti-capitalist. Just this once.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

A county with balls would have already rounded these illegals up and deported them!

See? You are even sending cops to round people up! You are using state violence to enforce your economic will. That's, like, super anti-capitalist.

Dont be any dumber than necessary.
Oops....to late.

Not an argument!

Not with you anyway. Most know our illegal problems come from south of the border.
You either dont know that,which makes you dumbass,or you do know it which makes you just another partisan hack.

 

[BluesLegend]

A county with balls would have already rounded these illegals up and deported them!

See? You are even sending cops to round people up! You are using state violence to enforce your economic will. That's, like, super anti-capitalist.

Dont be any dumber than necessary.
Oops....to late.

Not an argument!

Cops are too busy, I'd send the U.S. military out to round them up. In armored vehicles. If we accidently deported some liberals I'd be okay with that too.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I trust free markets.
Now, seal the border and boot 15 million illegal aliens.
To start.

"I trust free markets, so I am to kill the free market!" Smart!

You fucking asshole. STFU>

Not an argument!

Your statement doesn't deserve an argument.
Just an insult.....nothing more.
BTW, what country are you from?
I think we need to flood it with millions of welfare cases.

I'd bet his back is still wet.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I openly and proudly American hate the left's guts. They are lying scheming traitors who block attempts to keep illegals from coming here and killing and raping Americans.

Sounds like you just hate the labor market being free. That's a fine position. Just don't go bad mouthing anti-capitalists for being anti-capitalist, ok? Because you are on! Congrats!

thats what its all about
Left tard needs a safe space stop bad mouthing socialism .....this time it'll be different

Sovereign nations aren't allowed to control what comes in and out of the labor market ?
thats a good one !
ill add it to the post office,Army and sewer pipes are socialism LIST

the left is nothing but dumbed down racist nazi idiots

 

[Slyhunter]

Border enforcement represents an unparalleled assault on the free market.

According to Gallup some 750 million people would move to the US. The average income of a 1st generation immigrant is ~45k. That is a whopping ~30 trillion dollars of market suppression every year. That's almost twice our GDP worth of market suppression.

There is simply no other government program that suppresses the free market to that degree. There is simply no other government program that suppresses the freedom of individuals to that degree.

Now, personally, I like borders. But I also profoundly distrust the free market in certain fields. If you claim to trust free markets, you either hate borders or are a hypocrite. Period.

In a perfect world there would be no borders. Government would only exist to take care of the things that guide us and support us but not control us. Individuals would earn their own way or starve.

The problem with this is that Americans, like myself and my family, can't compete when people who live in mud huts steal our jobs and make us obsolete. We can't have an American lifestyle if we have to compete with Chinese low skill slave labor. We aren't fighting for the planet. We are fighting for our team. Team America. A better world for Americans as it currently exists, not in some dream utopia. And for that we need to install controls. Controls that limit the supply of labor so that wages stay high enough to live a decent life. Controls that insure imports from poorer countries doesn't bankrupt companies who makes things while paying an American living wage. Otherwise I'll be living in a mud hut.

American ancestors worked hard to provide for their children to live bigger better lives. It isn't fair to ruin that by introducing the rest of the world into a world wide marketplace watering down our gains. They are destitute because as a society they weren't as successful as we were. But our success is temporary. It is a losing battle to maintain the status quo. Nevertheless It's a battle I and we should fight every day to insure every American has the ability to live an American lifestyle regardless as to how the rest of the world lives. You think the housing bubble was big, wait until you see the civilization bubble pop and the whole world turns into one marketplace with it's poor parts sucking the rich parts dry. We will eventually lose our battle at being special. But hopefully that will happen after I have died.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Cops are too busy, I'd send the U.S. military out to round them up. In armored vehicles. If we accidently deported some liberals I'd be okay with that too.

And you are using a tax-payer funded army too! That's like double socialism.

Not with you anyway. Most know our illegal problems come from south of the border.
You either dont know that,which makes you dumbass,or you do know it which makes you just another partisan hack.

Common, just try to follow an argument for once. It's not that hard. In fact it's fun.

If I say 750 million people want to immigrate to the US, it does not follow that all 750m are Mexican. Bringing up the queen of Zanzibar would have been as relevant as this comment.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Sovereign nations aren't allowed to control what comes in and out of the labor market ?
thats a good one !

No, I think they should. But I don't like free markets. If you think sovereign countries should control who comes in and out of the labor market, you are an anti-capitalist. That is all I am asserting.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Cops are too busy, I'd send the U.S. military out to round them up. In armored vehicles. If we accidently deported some liberals I'd be okay with that too.

And you are using a tax-payer funded army too! That's like double socialism.

Not with you anyway. Most know our illegal problems come from south of the border.
You either dont know that,which makes you dumbass,or you do know it which makes you just another partisan hack.

Common, just try to follow an argument for once. It's not that hard. In fact it's fun.

If I say 750 million people want to immigrate to the US, it does not follow that all 750m are Mexican. Bringing up the queen of Zanzibar would have been as relevant as this comment.

You need to take a remedial class on the Constitution and its purpose.

And you're putting words in my mouth hack.

Now are you going to admit the biggest problem we have with illegal immigration is from our southern border?
If not I'll just put you on ignore where it appears you belong.

 

[Tehon]

Border enforcement represents an unparalleled assault on the free market.

According to Gallup some 750 million people would move to the US. The average income of a 1st generation immigrant is ~45k. That is a whopping ~30 trillion dollars of market suppression every year. That's almost twice our GDP worth of market suppression.

There is simply no other government program that suppresses the free market to that degree. There is simply no other government program that suppresses the freedom of individuals to that degree.

Now, personally, I like borders. But I also profoundly distrust the free market in certain fields. If you claim to trust free markets, you either hate borders or are a hypocrite. Period.

In a perfect world there would be no borders. Government would only exist to take care of the things that guide us and support us but not control us. Individuals would earn their own way or starve.

The problem with this is that Americans, like myself and my family, can't compete when people who live in mud huts steal our jobs and make us obsolete. We can't have an American lifestyle if we have to compete with Chinese low skill slave labor. We aren't fighting for the planet. We are fighting for our team. Team America. A better world for Americans as it currently exists, not in some dream utopia. And for that we need to install controls. Controls that limit the supply of labor so that wages stay high enough to live a decent life. Controls that insure imports from poorer countries doesn't bankrupt companies who makes things while paying an American living wage. Otherwise I'll be living in a mud hut.

American ancestors worked hard to provide for their children to live bigger better lives. It isn't fair to ruin that by introducing the rest of the world into a world wide marketplace watering down our gains. They are destitute because as a society they weren't as successful as we were. But our success is temporary. It is a losing battle to maintain the status quo. Nevertheless It's a battle I and we should fight every day to insure every American has the ability to live an American lifestyle regardless as to how the rest of the world lives. You think the housing bubble was big, wait until you see the civilization bubble pop and the whole world turns into one marketplace with it's poor parts sucking the rich parts dry. We will eventually lose our battle at being special. But hopefully that will happen after I have died.

We don't have a team. Team America is a fiction. Americans who control the means of production benefit from destroying what you hold dear. But it is not their fault. They are only acting in their rational self interest, as all good Americans were taught. Do you see the contradiction?

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

You need to take a remedial class on the Constitution and its purpose.

And you're putting words in my mouth hack.

Now are you going to admit the biggest problem we have with illegal immigration is from our southern border?
If not I'll just put you on ignore where it appears you belong.

None of this is relevant. Every single undocumented immigrant could be from Mexico, and it wouldn't change the fact that closing the borders is anti-capitalist. The Constitution is also utterly irrelevant in a discussion over whether or not borders are anti free-market.

But go ahead and slink off to your safe space.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You need to take a remedial class on the Constitution and its purpose.

And you're putting words in my mouth hack.

Now are you going to admit the biggest problem we have with illegal immigration is from our southern border?
If not I'll just put you on ignore where it appears you belong.

None of this is relevant. Every single undocumented immigrant could be from Mexico, and it wouldn't change the fact that closing the borders is anti-capitalist. The Constitution is also utterly irrelevant in a discussion over whether or not borders are anti free-market.

But go ahead and slink off to your safe space.

Off you go......

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Sovereign nations aren't allowed to control what comes in and out of the labor market ?
thats a good one !

No, I think they should. But I don't like free markets. If you think sovereign countries should control who comes in and out of the labor market, you are an anti-capitalist. That is all I am asserting.

tell it to the Japanese and the spores you moron

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Off you go......

Have fun in your safe space! Being wrong can't hurt you there!

tell it to the Japanese and the spores you moron

Ok. If any Japanese people assert being pro-free market and also pro-borders I will call them hypocrites.

Doesn't change that fact that Americans that claim to be pro-borders and pro-free market are hypocrites.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Duly noted that OP is in favor of exploiting illegal Mexicans for slave labor.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Duly noted that OP is in favor of exploiting illegal Mexicans for slave labor.

Oh I am not in favor of open borders. Just like my OP says.

But I am also proudly oppose the free market in certain situations. If you don't want open borders, you also proudly oppose the free-market. That is all I am saying.