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Whose freedom? I thought Americans had a right to fight injustice, did something change? Corporate propaganda has created the greatest number of anti American freedom righties ever, that someone could cheer this loss of freedom as freedom is insane.
"Corporate propaganda directed outwards, that is, to the public at large, has two main objectives: to identify the free enterprise system in popular consciousness with every cherished value, and to identify interventionist governments and strong unions (the only agencies capable of checking a complete domination of society by corporations) with tyranny, oppression and even subversion. The techniques used to achieve these results are variously called 'public relations', 'corporate communications' and 'economic education'." Alex Carey 'Taking the Risk out of Democracy' [see also Democracy after Citizens United | MIT World ]
"Historian Phillips-Fein traces the hidden history of the Reagan revolution to a coterie of business executives, including General Electric official and Reagan mentor Lemuel Boulware, who saw labor unions, government regulation, high taxes and welfare spending as dire threats to their profits and power. From the 1930s onward, the author argues, they provided the money, organization and fervor for a decades-long war against New Deal liberalismfunding campaigns, think tanks, magazines and lobbying groups, and indoctrinating employees in the virtues of unfettered capitalism." Amazon.com: Invisible Hands: The Making of the Conservative Movement from the New Deal to Reagan (9780393059304): Kim Phillips-Fein: Books
the employees are free to decide if they wish to relcoate and still work for them. They are free to decide if they still wish to work for them without a union. The company is free to decide where it will operate. The vendors are free to decide if they still wish to supply them. The Airlines are still free to decide if they wish to purchase their products.
Please explain who lost freedom here.
I bet you will struggle.
Employees did.
No, it's because most states have given people the freedom to decide if they want to organize or not.No, but I am saying that in most industries, outcomes would be better from the perspective of workers if firms were unionized. You're certainly free to argue that we should care more about the perspective of businesses than workers, but it's not a free lunch.
then why is union membership at an all time low, and dropping?
Because most states have effectively banned unions.
then why is union membership at an all time low, and dropping?
Because most states have effectively banned unions.
No, it's because most states have given people the freedom to decide if they want to organize or not.
Most people don't want to unionize. I'd ask if that tells you anything, but I know it doesn't.
the employees are free to decide if they wish to relcoate and still work for them. They are free to decide if they still wish to work for them without a union. The company is free to decide where it will operate. The vendors are free to decide if they still wish to supply them. The Airlines are still free to decide if they wish to purchase their products.
Please explain who lost freedom here.
I bet you will struggle.
Employees did.
So employees have the freedom to decide if a company may or may not open a new branch and grow thier business if they feel it is not in thier best interest?
I go to work at a restaurant as a waiter and the restaurant decides to open a new location five miles away. I have the freedom to tell that restaurant they cannot do that because I think it will diminish my tips? Yes I do, but it should not have the weight to prevent them from carrying out their plans.
That's what unions do. That's what Democrats do. Why do you object to it?Because most states have effectively banned unions.
No, it's because most states have given people the freedom to decide if they want to organize or not.
Most people don't want to unionize. I'd ask if that tells you anything, but I know it doesn't.
That's not true. States haven't given people the freedom of choice (they've had that all along). They've given people the right to take money out of the pockets of others.
Wait so companies can keep doing business without retribution web when they violate laws? That's not good.
I can't imagine a guy interested in the future of humans boning something like that. She's practically an earlier species.
Well at least on this issue we can remain a free republic.
The House of Representatives has passed a bill that would undermine the government's case accusing Boeing Co. of retaliating against union workers.
The measure, approved on a 238-186 vote, would limit the National Labor Relations Board's enforcement power by prohibiting the agency from ordering any employer to shut down plants or relocate work, even after a company had violated labor laws.
Republicans and their allies in the business community have criticized the National Labor Relations Board for more than a year as the agency issued a spate of union-friendly decisions and rules.
Read more: House Passes Bill To Limit Labor Relations Board Authority | Fox News
No, he's doing his job. He's representing his constituents. You know, the people who the Obama Administration doesn't want to have jobs.
At the expense of people in another state. Which will help his re-election.
Which is why I called it self-serving.
Glad to see we agree!
Wait so companies can keep doing business without retribution web when they violate laws? That's not good.
Labors laws are just a license for unions to commit extortion.
No, but I am saying that in most industries, outcomes would be better from the perspective of workers if firms were unionized. You're certainly free to argue that we should care more about the perspective of businesses than workers, but it's not a free lunch.
then why is union membership at an all time low, and dropping?
Because most states have effectively banned unions.
At the expense of what people?At the expense of people in another state. Which will help his re-election.
Which is why I called it self-serving.
Glad to see we agree!
Wait so companies can keep doing business without retribution web when they violate laws? That's not good.
Labors laws are just a license for unions to commit extortion.
Still waiting to hear what the new punishment is for companies that break the law.
the employees are free to decide if they wish to relcoate and still work for them. They are free to decide if they still wish to work for them without a union. The company is free to decide where it will operate. The vendors are free to decide if they still wish to supply them. The Airlines are still free to decide if they wish to purchase their products.
Please explain who lost freedom here.
I bet you will struggle.
Employees did.
Democratic Senate is not even going to consider this bill.
It is as good as dead.
Wait so companies can keep doing business without retribution web when they violate laws? That's not good.
Labors laws are just a license for unions to commit extortion.
what laws specifically?
The employees did. They're free to decide to sign a contract in which they have no negotiating power. That's not free in any meaningful sense of the word.
So let me get this straight.
If a client of mine opts to give business to my competitor, it is the ideology of the left that I have the right to complain and consider it a loss of my freedom that a company made a business decision they deemed to be in their best interest?
Wow...and they say conservatism is evil?
