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Been here before - Post #95

Because of some things I had bookmarked links to Robert Sapolsky, Max Tegmark, and others. I don't believe I've viewed this video before. But the argument(s) and points put forward by Sapolsky, especially this: "the onus is on people saying there's free will" is difficult to argue convincingly against.


Do We Have Free Will? with Robert Sapolsky & Neil deGrasse Tyson​

starting around 21:00

"How am I going to know if you're ever wrong?"

"Here's how you falsify it. Show me - and at this point like everyone is 'oh prove to us there's no free will, prove to us there's no Easter Bunny, prove to us that like there's, till you turn around there's somebody creeping up behind you - oop they disappear - that absence or proof, proof of absence that whole deal. um By now the onus is on people saying there's free will and this is what would falsify all of this - show me a neuron, or a network of neurons, or a brain that just did something and show me that it did that completely free of its history. It wouldn't matter what...


"quantum physics"

"This is this is where I get conniptions, when quantum physics is wonderfully relevant to quantum physics. It's got squat to do with free will issues, because it's like what this physicist at MIT, Max Tegmark...calculated...he's 'counted?' 23 orders of magnitude that an indeterminist subatomic effect would have to scale up to influence the behavior of "a" molecule"

"That should shut everyone up who's trying to explain Consciousness with quantum physics exactly and the next...because if they find a way where somehow magically it bubbles up what you've just explained is a mechanism for Randomness, for random Behavior, not like the moral system you've had since you were in your diapers, and the consistent and..."

 
People seem to do whatever the hell they want to do, so I guess there is free will. :biggrin:
 
Those that say free will is an illusion is those people who say we are living in a simulation. Fact check, we are not in a simulation due to God creating the universe and he gave us free will.
 
Without free will there is no accountability. Everyone is a victim of his/her circumstances. Determinism is an attack on God. Under this train of thought we are not at fault for our sins but merely a victim of our existence. We cannot be held accountable for our sins nor can we be judged for our choices in life because they were all determined by our circumstances. Nobody should be in prison under this train of thought but we should all be in psychiatric wards. Thus God's judgments would be unjust and His desire for us to repent is a fantasy. We are nothing but products of our environment and we must coddle the thieves and murderers because its not their fault. No accountability. Just chaos.
 
If free will doesn't exist then all of life is pointless.
 
Been here before - Post #95

Because of some things I had bookmarked links to Robert Sapolsky, Max Tegmark, and others. I don't believe I've viewed this video before. But the argument(s) and points put forward by Sapolsky, especially this: "the onus is on people saying there's free will" is difficult to argue convincingly against.


Do We Have Free Will? with Robert Sapolsky & Neil deGrasse Tyson​

starting around 21:00

"How am I going to know if you're ever wrong?"

"Here's how you falsify it. Show me - and at this point like everyone is 'oh prove to us there's no free will, prove to us there's no Easter Bunny, prove to us that like there's, till you turn around there's somebody creeping up behind you - oop they disappear - that absence or proof, proof of absence that whole deal. um By now the onus is on people saying there's free will and this is what would falsify all of this - show me a neuron, or a network of neurons, or a brain that just did something and show me that it did that completely free of its history. It wouldn't matter what...


"quantum physics"

"This is this is where I get conniptions, when quantum physics is wonderfully relevant to quantum physics. It's got squat to do with free will issues, because it's like what this physicist at MIT, Max Tegmark...calculated...he's 'counted?' 23 orders of magnitude that an indeterminist subatomic effect would have to scale up to influence the behavior of "a" molecule"

"That should shut everyone up who's trying to explain Consciousness with quantum physics exactly and the next...because if they find a way where somehow magically it bubbles up what you've just explained is a mechanism for Randomness, for random Behavior, not like the moral system you've had since you were in your diapers, and the consistent and..."


If you are a democrat in power you have the free will to do pretty much any damn thing you want, otherwise, you will get impeached, convicted and/or shot to death.

So, I guess it depends.

What does black antichristian atheist man have to say about that?
 
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