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[JoeB131]

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They said Hillary was going to mop up in '08 too. How did that work out for her?

I don't know. Who said that.

It wasn't a Republican who beat her though, was it?

No it wasn't. But she certainly didn't win. And another dem could beat her in the next election. You know, one that is more of a centrist?

um, not really. No one really has Obama's star power. Liz Warren, maybe, but Liz has already endorsed Hillary.

 

[WinterBorn]

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They said Hillary was going to mop up in '08 too. How did that work out for her?

I don't know. Who said that.

It wasn't a Republican who beat her though, was it?

No it wasn't. But she certainly didn't win. And another dem could beat her in the next election. You know, one that is more of a centrist?

um, not really. No one really has Obama's star power. Liz Warren, maybe, but Liz has already endorsed Hillary.

Yeah well. You hold out for that. Bet on Hillary being elected, Scalia dying, and the replacement Hillary nominates being rabidly anti-gun, and getting approved. You just wish and wish and maybe that dream will happen. lmao NOT!

 

[JoeB131]

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Yeah well. You hold out for that. Bet on Hillary being elected, Scalia dying, and the replacement Hillary nominates being rabidly anti-gun, and getting approved. You just wish and wish and maybe that dream will happen. lmao NOT!

Doesn't have to be "rabidly". He just has to make the same interpretation that judges have made about the 2nd Amendment for 220 years.

It's about militias, not guns.

 

[skookerasbil]

nothing is changing on guns anytime soon. And after early November, its a completely dead issue until 2016. In fact, a couple more of these homegrown terror events in this country and even people like my Mom will be hitting the gun store along with millions of others. Not a single rep will say dick. We're on the precipice of a gun buying bonanza s0ns!!!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Doesn't have to be "rabidly". He just has to make the same interpretation that judges have made about the 2nd Amendment for 220 years.

It's about militias, not guns.

The interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has changed over those 220 years. Not that I am surprised you don't know that, but it is fun pointing out how ignorant you are.

 

[WinterBorn]

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Yeah well. You hold out for that. Bet on Hillary being elected, Scalia dying, and the replacement Hillary nominates being rabidly anti-gun, and getting approved. You just wish and wish and maybe that dream will happen. lmao NOT!

Doesn't have to be "rabidly". He just has to make the same interpretation that judges have made about the 2nd Amendment for 220 years.

It's about militias, not guns.

You claim it was not an individual right until the ruling in 2008. But the gun culture existed well before then.

To get even a portion of what you have advocated here, it will require someone rabidly anti-gun on the SCOTUS, in the White House, and a super majority in both houses.

 

[JoeB131]

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You claim it was not an individual right until the ruling in 2008. But the gun culture existed well before then.

To get even a portion of what you have advocated here, it will require someone rabidly anti-gun on the SCOTUS, in the White House, and a super majority in both houses.

Actually, it just takes people willing to enforce the laws we have. As you clowns are happy to point out, we've already got 20,000 gun laws.

 

[WinterBorn]

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You claim it was not an individual right until the ruling in 2008. But the gun culture existed well before then.

To get even a portion of what you have advocated here, it will require someone rabidly anti-gun on the SCOTUS, in the White House, and a super majority in both houses.

Actually, it just takes people willing to enforce the laws we have. As you clowns are happy to point out, we've already got 20,000 gun laws.

Great! Then enforce those laws and quit with the "Send those creepy gun sellers to prison whether they broke the law or not!" rants of insanity.

 

[JoeB131]

Great! Then enforce those laws and quit with the "Send those creepy gun sellers to prison whether they broke the law or not!" rants of insanity.

Accessory to Murder. Guilty as Sin.

 

[dblack]

Maybe she could move into the shack the Weaver family abandoned in Idaho.

The thought of the Weaver family getting mowed down in gunfire must tickle your fascist balls, Joe.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I suspect he masturbates to it, actually.

 

[WinterBorn]

Great! Then enforce those laws and quit with the "Send those creepy gun sellers to prison whether they broke the law or not!" rants of insanity.

Accessory to Murder. Guilty as Sin.

Not even close. Unless you want to charge the Lowe's employees when someone strangles someone with a rope, or Chevrolet if someone intentionally runs someone over.

The gun sellers do not break the laws, so they will not be punished. You being an ass doesn't change that. There is not a jurist in the nation who would allow that trial.

 

[JoeB131]

Great! Then enforce those laws and quit with the "Send those creepy gun sellers to prison whether they broke the law or not!" rants of insanity.

Accessory to Murder. Guilty as Sin.

Not even close. Unless you want to charge the Lowe's employees when someone strangles someone with a rope, or Chevrolet if someone intentionally runs someone over.

The gun sellers do not break the laws, so they will not be punished. You being an ass doesn't change that. There is not a jurist in the nation who would allow that trial.

If the Lowe's employees was marketing ropes to stranglers, you might have a point.

The whole gun industry is designed to get guns to criminals. So everyone else feels scared and wants guns, too.

 

[WinterBorn]

Great! Then enforce those laws and quit with the "Send those creepy gun sellers to prison whether they broke the law or not!" rants of insanity.

Accessory to Murder. Guilty as Sin.

Not even close. Unless you want to charge the Lowe's employees when someone strangles someone with a rope, or Chevrolet if someone intentionally runs someone over.

The gun sellers do not break the laws, so they will not be punished. You being an ass doesn't change that. There is not a jurist in the nation who would allow that trial.

If the Lowe's employees was marketing ropes to stranglers, you might have a point.

The whole gun industry is designed to get guns to criminals. So everyone else feels scared and wants guns, too.

That is pure bullshit. The gun industry is NOT designed to get guns to criminals. Jeez, either you are proud of your lies or you are just an idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe she could move into the shack the Weaver family abandoned in Idaho.

The thought of the Weaver family getting mowed down in gunfire must tickle your fascist balls, Joe.

yup, Dead Nazis always amuses me.

 

[JoeB131]

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That is pure bullshit. The gun industry is NOT designed to get guns to criminals. Jeez, either you are proud of your lies or you are just an idiot.

oh, contrare...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/opinion/bradford-gun-marketing/

The problem is that there are too few and very limited laws to force manufacturers to safeguard their distribution channels, and manufacturers are not putting these safeguards into place.

Our research found that about 45% to 60% of the guns traced to crime came from about 1% of the nation's gun dealers and that implementation of safeguards is associated with a smaller number of guns being diverted to crime or used in crime. Interestingly, many of the common sense distribution laws that would force a safer distribution of firearms are in place for other industries that sell products that can cause harm.

 

[WinterBorn]

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That is pure bullshit. The gun industry is NOT designed to get guns to criminals. Jeez, either you are proud of your lies or you are just an idiot.

oh, contrare...

Gun makers help keep weapons out of criminals hands - CNN.com

The problem is that there are too few and very limited laws to force manufacturers to safeguard their distribution channels, and manufacturers are not putting these safeguards into place.

Our research found that about 45% to 60% of the guns traced to crime came from about 1% of the nation's gun dealers and that implementation of safeguards is associated with a smaller number of guns being diverted to crime or used in crime. Interestingly, many of the common sense distribution laws that would force a safer distribution of firearms are in place for other industries that sell products that can cause harm.

First of all, if 45% to 60% of guns traced to crime came from about 1% of the gun dealers, you are proving that it is a small minority doing the bulk of the business that ends up in crime. In other words, the gun industry is NOT designed to get guns to criminals.

The article you linked says nothing that shows any design efforts to channel guns to criminals. In fact, all it shows is the blatant disregard for accurate numbers that you have shown. In fact, the line: "Each year, about 30,000 people are killed and 300,000 violent crimes are committed with firearms" is intentionally misleading. I am willing to bet that the average reader doesn't know that two-thirds of those killed did the job themselves, and that the actual murder (with a gun) is only one-third of that quoted.

No, it is bullshit. You claim the gun industry is intentionally arming criminals. That is simply insane.

 

[JoeB131]

The gun industry is not putting that 1% out of business. Therefore, complicate.

And yes, 32,000 gun deaths, 78,000 gun injuries and 300,000 crimes committed with guns does nullify the imaginary 100,000 DGU's.

 

[WinterBorn]

The gun industry is not putting that 1% out of business. Therefore, complicate.

And yes, 32,000 gun deaths, 78,000 gun injuries and 300,000 crimes committed with guns does nullify the imaginary 100,000 DGU's.

It is not the gun industry's job to do that. It also does not say HOW those guns went from dealer to criminal.

But your claim that the gun industry is guilty for failing to stop that 1% is a far cry from your claims that an entire industry is designed to get guns to criminals. I guess we'll chalk that up as another lies.

Since there are only 10,000 gun murders, your use of the other numbers is still not accurate. Suicides who want to die will die. Using them in your crusade is as dishonest as your other claims.

 

[JoeB131]

The gun industry is not putting that 1% out of business. Therefore, complicate.

And yes, 32,000 gun deaths, 78,000 gun injuries and 300,000 crimes committed with guns does nullify the imaginary 100,000 DGU's.

It is not the gun industry's job to do that. It also does not say HOW those guns went from dealer to criminal.
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First time a gun seller goes to prison as an accessory to Murder, they'll MAKE it their business.

First time a gun manufacturer pays out an 8 figure settlement to the families of preschoolers, they'll make it their business.

The Tobacco Industry didn't change it's behavior because it was the "right thing to do". It changed when it's business practices started costing them money.