France intervenes against 'terrorists'

[Sunni Man]

France could care less about the people of Mali.

They are only intervening militarily to protect their various mining and natural resources investments.

If France didn't have financial reasons to intervene in the Mali civil war.

They wouldn't care one iota if Islamists took over the country.

 

[Dante]

France has unilaterally sent forces into war-torn Mali with the intent of defending democracy there. In fighting so far, they have been very successful with a minimum of casualties.

It seems popular among ill-informed people that France and the French are somehow cowards. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The French have been tougher since at least Reagan years...

In retaliation for the attacks, France launched an airstrike in the Bekaa Valley against alleged Islamic Revolutionary Guards positions.

President Reagan assembled his national security team and planned to...

There was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans,[22] besides a few shellings.

1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[there4eyeM]

France could care less about the people of Mali.

They are only intervening militarily to protect their various mining and natural resources investments.

If France didn't have financial reasons to intervene in the Mali civil war.

They wouldn't care one iota if Islamists took over the country.

So, the seizure of this democracy by extremists wishing to install draconian and barbaric law is not a distressing prospect?

 

[Sunni Man]

So, the seizure of this democracy by extremists wishing to install draconian and barbaric law is not a distressing prospect?

It is a civil war that should only involve the Mali people; with no outside interference by the U.S. or Europe.

It's their country and they should be the ones who decide their own fate.

 

[Jos]

But, Mali is third in the world's gold producing nations, France has to give back Germany's gold which they said they will do at 50 tons per year, Mali produces ..50 tons per year what a coincidence?

 

[Sallow]

France has unilaterally sent forces into war-torn Mali with the intent of defending democracy there. In fighting so far, they have been very successful with a minimum of casualties.

It seems popular among ill-informed people that France and the French are somehow cowards. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The French use to have one of the most feared and respected militaries in the world.

And they helped the US become independent.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The oldest ally and first nation to recognize the newly formed United States of America was the country of Morocco in 1977

"Relations between the Kingdom of Morocco and the United States date back to the earliest days of U.S. history. On December 20, 1777, Morocco formally recognized the colonies as a unified sovereign nation. Morocco remains one of America's oldest and closest allies in the Middle East and North Africa, a status affirmed by Morocco's zero-tolerance policy towards al-Qaeda and their affiliated groups."

Morocco?United States relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Make up your mind Sunni man is AQ bad or is it Freedom fighters in Mali?

 

[Sunni Man]

But, Mali is third in the world's gold producing nations, France has to give back Germany's gold which they said they will do at 50 tons per year, Mali produces ..50 tons per year what a coincidence?

France's interest in Mali wouldn't have anything to do with 1.1 billion tons of bauxite (main ingredient of aluminum) under the surface and waiting to be mined??

 

[Sallow]

So, the seizure of this democracy by extremists wishing to install draconian and barbaric law is not a distressing prospect?

It is a civil war that should only involve the Mali people; with no outside interference by the U.S. or Europe.

It's their country and they should be the ones who decide their own fate.

Not if Al Qaeda is involved.

 

[Sunni Man]

Whether the people of Mali choose to be ruled by communist, Islamist, democracy, fascist, etc.

They need to be allowed to fight it our for themselves with no interference.

Their country, their culture, their destiny.........

 

[Trajan]

So, the seizure of this democracy by extremists wishing to install draconian and barbaric law is not a distressing prospect?

It is a civil war that should only involve the Mali people; with no outside interference by the U.S. or Europe.

It's their country and they should be the ones who decide their own fate.

Not if Al Qaeda is involved.

That count for Afghanistan?

 

[Sallow]

It is a civil war that should only involve the Mali people; with no outside interference by the U.S. or Europe.

It's their country and they should be the ones who decide their own fate.

Not if Al Qaeda is involved.

That count for Afghanistan?

Sure.

If Al Qaeda sets up a government any place, any where in the world..it deserves to be bombed into oblivion.

They have yet to relinquish hostile acts against America. As such..we are still in a state of war with them.

 

[Sunni Man]

Not if Al Qaeda is involved.

That count for Afghanistan?

Sure.

If Al Qaeda sets up a government any place, any where in the world..it deserves to be bombed into oblivion.

They have yet to relinquish hostile acts against America. As such..we are still in a state of war with them.

Al Qaeda hasn't ever set up a government anywhere.

Even before 9/11 the CIA estimated there were never more than 200 members total in Afghanistan.

All that Al Qaeda has the ability to do is teach and train insurgents.

 

[Decus]

"As far as France being America's oldest ally, you have to be stupid or French to say something like that ..."

The poster is challenged to cite an older one.

An older ally...really? The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

The French and English have been at each other's throats since the 12th century. If some clown tries to tell you how much the French cared for the colonists, read about the Massachusetts Deerfield Massacre of 1704. In truth the French used the American Revolution to continue their war against the British. They have only been "a friend" to the US (or anyone else for that matter) when it has suited their purposes.

An older ally? Debatable but certainly not the French.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So it is ok if outside forces help the Taliban but it is not ok if the legit government asks for help, I got that right Sunni Man?

 

[there4eyeM]

"As far as France being America's oldest ally, you have to be stupid or French to say something like that ..."

The poster is challenged to cite an older one.

An older ally...really? The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

The French and English have been at each other's throats since the 12th century. If some clown tries to tell you how much the French cared for the colonists, read about the Massachusetts Deerfield Massacre of 1704. In truth the French used the American Revolution to continue their war against the British. They have only been "a friend" to the US (or anyone else for that matter) when it has suited their purposes.

An older ally? Debatable but certainly not the French.

Let's see, 1778 (to clarify, this was the year France began to help) minus 1704 makes 84. An incident generations before American independence disqualifies the French nation from being recognized for what it is, the longest-running friend of American democracy and ideals (many of which came directly from French philosophers)?

For you, readers, to decide.

 

[there4eyeM]

But, Mali is third in the world's gold producing nations, France has to give back Germany's gold which they said they will do at 50 tons per year, Mali produces ..50 tons per year what a coincidence?

As the mining is done for profit by many companies, it is obvious that the total production will not be turned over to France any more than the total production of Iraq's oil was given to the US.

 

[Decus]

"As far as France being America's oldest ally, you have to be stupid or French to say something like that ..."

The poster is challenged to cite an older one.

An older ally...really? The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

The French and English have been at each other's throats since the 12th century. If some clown tries to tell you how much the French cared for the colonists, read about the Massachusetts Deerfield Massacre of 1704. In truth the French used the American Revolution to continue their war against the British. They have only been "a friend" to the US (or anyone else for that matter) when it has suited their purposes.

An older ally? Debatable but certainly not the French.

Let's see, 1778 (to clarify, this was the year France began to help) minus 1704 makes 84. An incident generations before American independence disqualifies the French nation from being recognized for what it is, the longest-running friend of American democracy and ideals (many of which came directly from French philosophers)?

For you, readers, to decide.

Why did France wait until 1778 to side with the colonists? Saratoga was a battle fought in October, 1777. Americans won a significant victory against the British that gave everyone cause to believe that Americans could prevail and win against the British.

Up to that moment we had been begging the French for their help. Only when they thought we could win did they join the cause. They saw that we could provide them with a victory against their traditional enemy. Had we not won the battle, they would have probably told us "tant pis pour vous" - too bad for you.

If we look at our relationship with the French to the present day, it is extremely difficult to see anything that could equate to a real act of friendship on their part.

I am sure that anyone here can list at least a dozen instances of French arrogance. Doubt that the opposite is true.

 

[Sunni Man]

So it is ok if outside forces help the Taliban but it is not ok if the legit government asks for help, I got that right Sunni Man?

The Taliban was the legitimate government of Afghanistan before 9/11 you nitwit........

 

[there4eyeM]

An older ally...really? The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

The French and English have been at each other's throats since the 12th century. If some clown tries to tell you how much the French cared for the colonists, read about the Massachusetts Deerfield Massacre of 1704. In truth the French used the American Revolution to continue their war against the British. They have only been "a friend" to the US (or anyone else for that matter) when it has suited their purposes.

An older ally? Debatable but certainly not the French.

Let's see, 1778 (to clarify, this was the year France began to help) minus 1704 makes 84. An incident generations before American independence disqualifies the French nation from being recognized for what it is, the longest-running friend of American democracy and ideals (many of which came directly from French philosophers)?

For you, readers, to decide.

Why did France wait until 1778 to side with the colonists? Saratoga was a battle fought in October, 1777. Americans won a significant victory against the British that gave everyone cause to believe that Americans could prevail and win against the British.

Up to that moment we had been begging the French for their help. Only when they thought we could win did they join the cause. They saw that we could provide them with a victory against their traditional enemy. Had we not won the battle, they would have probably told us "tant pis pour vous" - too bad for you.

If we look at our relationship with the French to the present day, it is extremely difficult to see anything that could equate to a real act of friendship on their part.

I am sure that anyone here can list at least a dozen instances of French arrogance. Doubt that the opposite is true.

Has anyone here heard of the little statue in New York harbor, what's it called...?