Fox News Smacks Down Trump Lies

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Even some at Fox have had it with Trump's endless lies.

 

[22lcidw]

Uh oh, looks like he done went commie librul.

Wallace is a liberal, just as his dad was.

No he isn't but I am amused by just how quickly and viciously you Trumpbots turn on each other the very minute someone develops a conscience. Most of opposition to the wall is not the wall itself, it's the fucked up way Trump is trying to make it happen. Lies, threats, racism, taking the government hostage and wall to wall recrimination. He cannot be allowed a victory by those means.

Yes he is. He is a shill who promotes a little moderation for the globalists. FOX TV is not comparable to MSNBC and CNN. Breitbart and Alex Jones is comparable to those two networks. Every agenda of Trump is what all of those politicians have promoted over the years to degree.

 

[Pilot1]

Chris Wallace has always been a Far Left Progressive. He has NO credibility. He's a mainstream media Liberal like his Dad. Fox News employs many whacko Liberal/Progressives like Wallace, Juan Williams, and Shepherd Smith so I don't know why this is even "news".

 

[Centrista]

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”

He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

Fear mongering and lying. That's what Trump does

I'm assuming you have a dictionary, and can look up what the word "potentially" means.

The only one lying in your post, is you.

Trump didn't say potentially when he dais 3,755 "terrorists or suspected terrorists" were caught in 2018
And no, they're not suspected of anything.

 

[depotoo]

The 3755 figure included those caught at ports of entry. We also have no idea how many others may have been picked up after illegally crossing. And ms-13 and other gangs/cartel members are picked up quite regularly.
This story gives one the idea of what border towns have to live with daily, as illegals come in daily. This is no way to have to live. We need better barriers-
In Roma, Texas, residents must choose: Help Border Patrol, or border crossers?
MS-13 gang member nabbed at border had been deported
An MS-13 gang member and a convicted sex offender arrested at southern border
Border Patrol Arrests a MS-13 Gang Member | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
MS-13 member sentenced to 36 years for East Boston murder of 15-year-old | Boston.com
MS-13 member in Virginia pleads guilty to murder for hacking man to death with machete
Jose Salvador Gonzales-Campos, an MS-13 member, sentenced for firearm possession
Two Previously Deported MS-13 Gang Members, Child Rapist Arrested at Border - Conservative News & Right Wing News | Gun Laws & Rights News Site
Two Suspected MS-13 Gang Members Accused of Killing Houston Teen in ‘Satanic’ Ritual
MS-13 gangsters suspected in Long Island quadruple murder linked to ongoing street war - NY Daily News
MS-13's legacy of murder, rape, and control exposed | Daily Mail Online

Muhammad Azeem and Mukhtar Ahmad, Pakistani nationals, Mexico-California border, September 2015, affiliation unknown

U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended Azeem and Ahmad just north of Tijuana after the pair had traveled from their home in Gujrat, Pakistan, through Latin America. Database checks revealed that both migrants were on U.S. terrorism watch lists.11 Two months earlier, Panama had detained and released both migrants to continue their travels north. One of the Pakistanis was listed in the TSDB because of associations with a known or suspected terrorist. The second was a positive match for "derogatory information" in another database, most likely TIDE.12

Unnamed Sri Lankan national, detained at Texas-Mexico border, March 2012, Tamil Tigers

This Sri Lankan was with two other Sri Lankans apprehended by Border Patrol agents in McAllen, Texas. He stated that he belonged to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization. He stated that his group was en route to Canada.14 The Tamil Tigers, militarily defeated in 2009, perfected the art of suicide bombing and were reportedly attempting to reconstitute the organization abroad.15

Unidentified Afghan national, reported smuggled into the United States, between 2014-2016, Pakistani Taliban

In 2017, federal prosecutors convicted Sharafat Ali Khan, a Pakistani human smuggler based in Brazil, for transporting between 25 and 99 illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Afghanistan from Brazil to Texas and California over the Mexican border. According to the Washington Times, at least one of Khan's customers was an Afghan "who authorities said was involved in a plot to conduct an attack in the U.S. or Canada and had family ties to members of the Taliban."9 No secondary corroboration for the report could be found, but it also has not been disputed, retracted, or corrected. The newspaper reported that "documents reviewed by The Times" said the Afghan man was listed on the U.S. No Fly List and in the TSDB for family ties to Taliban terrorists. At an October 2017 sentencing hearing, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton did not mention the Afghan, but admonished Khan, "You don't know whether they're seeking a better life or whether they're tying to get in here to engage in terrorism. People could have died, people could have gotten injured, families could have lost loved ones."10

Unnamed Bangladeshi national, detained near Naco, Ariz., June 2010, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh

One of two Bangladeshis apprehended after traveling together and illegally crossing from Mexico admitted to U.S. Border Patrol interviewers that both had worked in the "General Assembly" for the U.S.-designated terrorist group Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh. Subsequently, one of two detainees was deported, but the other was granted bond on an asylum claim and absconded.17

Abdullahi Omar Fidse, Somalia, detained at Mexico-Texas Border, June 2008, al-Shabaab

In July 2013, a U.S. District Judge sentenced Fidse on convictions for lying to the FBI about his terrorism associations after he traveled through Latin America to a Mexico-Texas port of entry in 2008.18 An FBI counterterrorism investigation found he had served as an al-Shabaab combat operative, crossed the border intending to conduct an unspecified operation, possessed the cell phone number of a terrorist implicated in the 2010 Uganda bombing that killed 70 soccer fans, and laid out details of a plan to assassinate the U.S. ambassador to Kenya and his Marine guard. He also worked as a weapons procurement operative, once buying an armed vehicle for $100,000 that was blown up in battle, killing all aboard. To a government informant, Fidse discussed the Quranic imperative to "terrorize the infidels" and stated, "We are terrorists."19

He admired Osama bin Ladin, demanded vengeance on infidels for the U.S. Hellfire missile killing of a senior al-Shabaab leader, and believed all good Muslims must commit two acts of jihad a year. Fidse's terrorism involvement was uncovered after an FBI informant inside a Texas detention facility began recording him discussing it.20 U.S. Attorney Robert Pittman said after sentencing: "This prosecution demonstrates the vigilance of the federal government in detecting and disabling individuals who seek to enter the country illegally with the purpose of doing harm."

Farida Goolam Ahmed, Pakistani national, illegally crossed the Mexico-Texas border, July 2004, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)

Ahmed's apprehension at the McAllen, Texas, airport while carrying clothing still wet from crossing the Rio Grande and a passport mutilated to hide her airport arrival in Mexico City drew brief national media attention as a potential terrorist infiltration, which faded after official government declarations that she was not connected to terrorism.23 However, a December 9, 2004, U.S. Border and Transportation Security intelligence summary of the case stated that Ahmed was "linked to specific terrorist activities."24 MQM is a Pakistan political movement and party that has been involved in terroristic political violence and has been regarded by the U.S. government as a "Tier III" terrorist organization.25 Court transcripts and government investigative materials identified Ahmed as a South Africa-based human smuggler for MQM who sources said operated an MQM safe house in Johannesburg that provided shelter for terrorists "on the run", to include a participant in a 1995 ambush murder of two U.S. consulate employees in Karachi, Pakistan.26 An FBI official with direct knowledge of the investigation said Ahmed's husband was a confirmed member of a terrorist organization.27

She regularly transported Pakistanis and others associated with MQM over the U.S.-Mexico border and also into Canada and Australia. Houston-based federal prosecutor Abe Martinez, chief of the Southern District of Texas national security section in the U.S. Attorney's Office, was asked if she or anyone she smuggled might have been involved in terrorism. "Were they linked to any terrorism organizations? I would have to say yes."28An uncorroborated Homeland Security Today magazine report cited U.S. intelligence sources alleging that Ahmed was linked to Pakistanis arrested in the United Kingdom who were plotting a terror attack in New York.29 Ahmed pleaded guilty to illegal entry and false statements and was deported with time served.30

Muhammad Kourani, Lebanese national, illegally crossed Mexico-U.S. border, date unknown (sometime before 2003), Hezbollah

Court records from a current prosecution of a New York City-based member of Hezbollah's foreign terrorist wing known as "Unit 910" revealed that the defendant's father, Muhammad Kourani, had "entered the United States illegally on foot."31 "U.S. prosecutors accuse the son, Ali Kourani, in a multi-count indictment of collecting intelligence for potential assassinations and bombings in the United States for Unit 910 from 2008 through at least 2015.32

Court records from his son's New York prosecution describe Mohammed Kourani as having intimate knowledge of and participation in his son's communications with a Hezbollah overseer inside Lebanon and also that the father knew two other sons were Hezbollah members and that at least one unrelated man in the New York area was a Hezbollah intelligence operative.33 After Muhammad Kourani illegally entered the United States from Mexico, he fraudulently married a woman to gain legal residency. The date of the illegal entry is not provided. He then sought immigration relief for his son, the defendant Ali Kourani, and also one other of his sons, Moustafa Kourani, based on the purported marriage. Court records from the case show at least three of Muhammad Kourani's sons were Hezbollah operatives.34 Ultimately, the U.S. defendant, Ali Kourani, legally immigrated from Cyprus to the United States in 2003. It was unclear whether his father was involved in that immigration, but the dates indicate that Muhammad Kourani would likely have crossed from Mexico prior to 2003. The other son and defendant's brother, Moustafa Kourani, whom their father also helped enter the United States was, in 2017, undergoing deportation proceedings while also under FBI investigation as a suspected Hezbollah operative.

Al-Manar Television employee, Lebanese national, smuggled over Mexico-California border, 2001 or 2002, Hezbollah

Out of the 2003-2004 U.S. smuggling prosecution of Lebanese national Salim Boughader Mucharrafille came information that his Tijuana-based organization smuggled one client over the Mexico-California who worked for a Hezbollah-owned satellite television network.35 The U.S. government designated Hezbollah a foreign terrorist organization in 1997. The U.S. Department of the Treasury designated its satellite television operation as a terrorist entity in part because employees have been known to conduct pre-operational surveillance for Hezbollah "under cover of employment by Al-Manar", according to the U.S. Treasury Department.36 The station was added to the U.S. State Department's Terrorist Exclusion List in 2004.37


Here are a few for you

Those are the ones they caught. No telling how many haven't been caught.

If there is "no telling ', then the 3755 figure is bogus) and Wallace is right.

 

[depotoo]

2018 apprehensions only? It was never stated 3000 in just 2018. That has been made up. Should they have been clearer, probably-


What follows is some clarification on bad data and suggestions to the administration for how to get good data, which is there for the taking if someone would just ask for it. Take this from a guy who not long ago was immersed in these very numbers as an intelligence practitioner and who, as a result seeing and reading the reports, believes the threat of terrorist infiltration is actually significant and rising right now. The Center for Immigration Studies has repeatedly provided my supporting research about the terrorist infiltration threat issue, which the administration (and news media) might do well to read. (And here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here, too).

My number-one fealty is to facts and solid analysis of them in the service of informing better homeland security and better counterterrorism, no matter whose ox gets gored on either side of the partisan divide. There's still a chance for the Trump administration to get this one right.

The Claim of 3,000 to 4,000 Apprehensions of Terrorist Suspects Is Misleading and Incorrect.

This all started on January 4, when DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen reportedly suggested to congressional leaders at a conference, as administration officials pressed justifications for a land border wall, that homeland security authorities had encountered more than 3,000 suspected terrorists along the U.S.-Mexico border over the past year or so. No reporters were in that meeting, so no telling what the exact words were, which matters. Amid vigorous and pointed challenges to the reported claim, administration officials then publicly pressed different kinds of numbers in the same ballpark and different kinds of verbiage that didn't always tie the numbers to the land border and left open the prospect that they were from airports, too.

Other times, they used accurate but also similar numbers for migrants who are mostly not identified as terrorist suspects yet, if ever. For example, in a January 4 Rose Garden press conference, Nielsen said Customs and Border Protection has stopped over 3,000 "special interest aliens trying to come into the country on the southern border."

Here, she brings to the table an altogether different problem-set from whatever she was referencing the day before. As I have written, special interest aliens are mostly not terrorists; however terrorist suspects have traveled among them on the smuggling routes through Latin America. She needed to have broken out the terrorist suspects from that 3,000, which again, is something I believe is an entirely different category from the 3,000 she spoke about at the conference with members of Congress.

What a complete conflation-ridden public-messaging mess.

This all needs to be straightened out, at least for our readers, because, while this mess spreads and sows confusion, actual terror suspects from countries of terrorism concern are getting caught at the southern border and en route, as I have so frequently documented. Hint: The land border numbers are far lower than 3,775 in a year, as I'll show below. But in this threat realm, small numbers portend major consequences. Just ask German Chancellor Angela Merkel, as she heads for the exit over just a relative few migrants who committed terror attacks in her country after entering among the million migrants she admitted.

Why I Know the Administration Is Wrong.

For nine years, I served as a counterterrorism intelligence manager in the border state of Texas, for the Texas Department of Public Safety's Intelligence and Counterterrorism Division. It was my job to know how many terrorist suspects crossed that border every year. My analysts and I would piece together these numbers partly from publicly undisclosable data provided to us by the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center and by often-classified intelligence community reports related to special interest alien travel. I would use these terrorist border encounter numbers to brief DPS brass and also cite them in intelligence assessments of the terror infiltration threat at the southern border, to serve our DPS troops who had been deployed there in force for many years.

I won't report the specifics of what I learned because of my obligation to ensure that information remains protected. But I can say definitively that the number of terrorist suspects arriving at the southern border or en route never came anywhere close to 3,000, let alone 4,000 in any single year of my state government intelligence service. I will also say that terrorist suspects do arrive at the southern border amid special interest migrant flows every year (as Nielsen said) in numbers that could still be used to justify a wall. The much smaller numbers of terror suspects among special interest migrants still warrant high concern, far more public investment than is presently in the chute for the problem, and better and more accountable vetting programs to handle special interest alien migrants streaming toward the southern border. (See "Eight Recommendations to Congress and the White House to Counter Potential Terror Travel to the U.S. Southern Border".)...

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U.S.-bound travelers get counted as suspected terrorists almost always because what we would call "derogatory intelligence" somehow got attached to their names at some point prior to their travel plans or encounters with American authorities. Migrants get derogatory intelligence because one of our agencies, like the FBI, the CIA, the military's DIA, or a foreign nation's services, at some point, (maybe in a military raid on an Afghan compound), got some information connecting the person to terrorist activities or known terrorists. People with such derogatory intelligence on their records would have been placed on U.S. terror watch lists or in other intelligence reports. These feed into massive checkable intelligence community data storehouses waiting for analysts and investigators to look at for the future day when those persons show again on anyone's radar.

People with derogatory terrorism-related intelligence show up on radars again when law enforcement encounters them at the U.S. land borders, or en route through Latin America. But don't forget: International airports are borders too. Travelers with derogatory terrorism reporting on them also flag when they buy airline tickets and get on an airline passenger list, embark or disembark from airplanes, or apply for various kinds of visas at U.S embassies while still abroad.

From my government experience, I know that the vast majority of on-radar suspected terrorists are encountered at airports, not at sea, land, or by cops on American roadways. The. Vast. Majority. So when Nielsen and other administration officials said 3,000-plus suspected terrorists had been apprehended or prevented from generally entering U.S. borders, I knew her numbers had to have been in reference to airport borders staffed by U.S. Customs and Border Protection inspectors or maybe at American embassies and consulate offices abroad, which process visas for U.S. airport-bound travelers. Later, she switched to talking about the separate issue of special interest alien apprehensions at the southern land border, which unfortunately also is about 3,000, so everything got conflated and muddled up.

Notes on the Trump Administration's Claim of 3,000-Plus Terrorist Apprehensions at U.S. Borders

And these are just some of the ones we know of that have been caught. There are others.

Muhammad Azeem and Mukhtar Ahmad, Pakistani nationals, Mexico-California border, September 2015, affiliation unknown

U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended Azeem and Ahmad just north of Tijuana after the pair had traveled from their home in Gujrat, Pakistan, through Latin America. Database checks revealed that both migrants were on U.S. terrorism watch lists.11 Two months earlier, Panama had detained and released both migrants to continue their travels north. One of the Pakistanis was listed in the TSDB because of associations with a known or suspected terrorist. The second was a positive match for "derogatory information" in another database, most likely TIDE.12

Unnamed Sri Lankan national, detained at Texas-Mexico border, March 2012, Tamil Tigers

This Sri Lankan was with two other Sri Lankans apprehended by Border Patrol agents in McAllen, Texas. He stated that he belonged to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization. He stated that his group was en route to Canada.14 The Tamil Tigers, militarily defeated in 2009, perfected the art of suicide bombing and were reportedly attempting to reconstitute the organization abroad.15

Unidentified Afghan national, reported smuggled into the United States, between 2014-2016, Pakistani Taliban

In 2017, federal prosecutors convicted Sharafat Ali Khan, a Pakistani human smuggler based in Brazil, for transporting between 25 and 99 illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Afghanistan from Brazil to Texas and California over the Mexican border. According to the Washington Times, at least one of Khan's customers was an Afghan "who authorities said was involved in a plot to conduct an attack in the U.S. or Canada and had family ties to members of the Taliban."9 No secondary corroboration for the report could be found, but it also has not been disputed, retracted, or corrected. The newspaper reported that "documents reviewed by The Times" said the Afghan man was listed on the U.S. No Fly List and in the TSDB for family ties to Taliban terrorists. At an October 2017 sentencing hearing, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton did not mention the Afghan, but admonished Khan, "You don't know whether they're seeking a better life or whether they're tying to get in here to engage in terrorism. People could have died, people could have gotten injured, families could have lost loved ones."10

Unnamed Bangladeshi national, detained near Naco, Ariz., June 2010, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh

One of two Bangladeshis apprehended after traveling together and illegally crossing from Mexico admitted to U.S. Border Patrol interviewers that both had worked in the "General Assembly" for the U.S.-designated terrorist group Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh. Subsequently, one of two detainees was deported, but the other was granted bond on an asylum claim and absconded.17

Abdullahi Omar Fidse, Somalia, detained at Mexico-Texas Border, June 2008, al-Shabaab

In July 2013, a U.S. District Judge sentenced Fidse on convictions for lying to the FBI about his terrorism associations after he traveled through Latin America to a Mexico-Texas port of entry in 2008.18 An FBI counterterrorism investigation found he had served as an al-Shabaab combat operative, crossed the border intending to conduct an unspecified operation, possessed the cell phone number of a terrorist implicated in the 2010 Uganda bombing that killed 70 soccer fans, and laid out details of a plan to assassinate the U.S. ambassador to Kenya and his Marine guard. He also worked as a weapons procurement operative, once buying an armed vehicle for $100,000 that was blown up in battle, killing all aboard. To a government informant, Fidse discussed the Quranic imperative to "terrorize the infidels" and stated, "We are terrorists."19

He admired Osama bin Ladin, demanded vengeance on infidels for the U.S. Hellfire missile killing of a senior al-Shabaab leader, and believed all good Muslims must commit two acts of jihad a year. Fidse's terrorism involvement was uncovered after an FBI informant inside a Texas detention facility began recording him discussing it.20 U.S. Attorney Robert Pittman said after sentencing: "This prosecution demonstrates the vigilance of the federal government in detecting and disabling individuals who seek to enter the country illegally with the purpose of doing harm."

Farida Goolam Ahmed, Pakistani national, illegally crossed the Mexico-Texas border, July 2004, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)

Ahmed's apprehension at the McAllen, Texas, airport while carrying clothing still wet from crossing the Rio Grande and a passport mutilated to hide her airport arrival in Mexico City drew brief national media attention as a potential terrorist infiltration, which faded after official government declarations that she was not connected to terrorism.23 However, a December 9, 2004, U.S. Border and Transportation Security intelligence summary of the case stated that Ahmed was "linked to specific terrorist activities."24 MQM is a Pakistan political movement and party that has been involved in terroristic political violence and has been regarded by the U.S. government as a "Tier III" terrorist organization.25 Court transcripts and government investigative materials identified Ahmed as a South Africa-based human smuggler for MQM who sources said operated an MQM safe house in Johannesburg that provided shelter for terrorists "on the run", to include a participant in a 1995 ambush murder of two U.S. consulate employees in Karachi, Pakistan.26 An FBI official with direct knowledge of the investigation said Ahmed's husband was a confirmed member of a terrorist organization.27

She regularly transported Pakistanis and others associated with MQM over the U.S.-Mexico border and also into Canada and Australia. Houston-based federal prosecutor Abe Martinez, chief of the Southern District of Texas national security section in the U.S. Attorney's Office, was asked if she or anyone she smuggled might have been involved in terrorism. "Were they linked to any terrorism organizations? I would have to say yes."28An uncorroborated Homeland Security Today magazine report cited U.S. intelligence sources alleging that Ahmed was linked to Pakistanis arrested in the United Kingdom who were plotting a terror attack in New York.29 Ahmed pleaded guilty to illegal entry and false statements and was deported with time served.30

Muhammad Kourani, Lebanese national, illegally crossed Mexico-U.S. border, date unknown (sometime before 2003), Hezbollah

Court records from a current prosecution of a New York City-based member of Hezbollah's foreign terrorist wing known as "Unit 910" revealed that the defendant's father, Muhammad Kourani, had "entered the United States illegally on foot."31 "U.S. prosecutors accuse the son, Ali Kourani, in a multi-count indictment of collecting intelligence for potential assassinations and bombings in the United States for Unit 910 from 2008 through at least 2015.32

Court records from his son's New York prosecution describe Mohammed Kourani as having intimate knowledge of and participation in his son's communications with a Hezbollah overseer inside Lebanon and also that the father knew two other sons were Hezbollah members and that at least one unrelated man in the New York area was a Hezbollah intelligence operative.33 After Muhammad Kourani illegally entered the United States from Mexico, he fraudulently married a woman to gain legal residency. The date of the illegal entry is not provided. He then sought immigration relief for his son, the defendant Ali Kourani, and also one other of his sons, Moustafa Kourani, based on the purported marriage. Court records from the case show at least three of Muhammad Kourani's sons were Hezbollah operatives.34 Ultimately, the U.S. defendant, Ali Kourani, legally immigrated from Cyprus to the United States in 2003. It was unclear whether his father was involved in that immigration, but the dates indicate that Muhammad Kourani would likely have crossed from Mexico prior to 2003. The other son and defendant's brother, Moustafa Kourani, whom their father also helped enter the United States was, in 2017, undergoing deportation proceedings while also under FBI investigation as a suspected Hezbollah operative.

Al-Manar Television employee, Lebanese national, smuggled over Mexico-California border, 2001 or 2002, Hezbollah

Out of the 2003-2004 U.S. smuggling prosecution of Lebanese national Salim Boughader Mucharrafille came information that his Tijuana-based organization smuggled one client over the Mexico-California who worked for a Hezbollah-owned satellite television network.35 The U.S. government designated Hezbollah a foreign terrorist organization in 1997. The U.S. Department of the Treasury designated its satellite television operation as a terrorist entity in part because employees have been known to conduct pre-operational surveillance for Hezbollah "under cover of employment by Al-Manar", according to the U.S. Treasury Department.36 The station was added to the U.S. State Department's Terrorist Exclusion List in 2004.37


Here are a few for you

Those are the ones they caught. No telling how many haven't been caught.

The thread is about 2018 apprehensions.
And even before 2018 you can't name more than a few.

 

[Andylusion]

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”

He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

Fear mongering and lying. That's what Trump does

I'm assuming you have a dictionary, and can look up what the word "potentially" means.

The only one lying in your post, is you.

Trump didn't say potentially when he dais 3,755 "terrorists or suspected terrorists" were caught in 2018
And no, they're not suspected of anything.

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”​

I did not make that post. I replied to it. If that post is in error, that is not my fault.

 

[Lesh]

Again...this covers people from countries with known or suspected terrorist activity. Not the PEOPLE...but the COUNTRY they come from...how many were "intercepted" at the border? Who knows...since they lumped in every possible entry...

Why so vague?

Because they are LYING

 

[iceberg]

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”

He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

Fear mongering and lying. That's what Trump does

good thing the left would NEVER resort to such things.

racism
nazi
misogynist
trump's going to "push the button"

ignoring the crap your side does while getting mad at the other side for doing it. that's what fucktards do.

 

[Lesh]

good thing the left would NEVER resort to such things.

That wasn't even a decent attempt at the PeeWee Herman (they did it tooooooo) Defense

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”

He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

Fear mongering and lying. That's what Trump does

So now Fox is a legitimate news source for liberals ?

 

[iceberg]

good thing the left would NEVER resort to such things.

That wasn't even a decent attempt at the PeeWee Herman (they did it tooooooo) Defense

are you trying to tell me the left DOES NOT fear monger?

please, try to tell me that.

 

[Lesh]

good thing the left would NEVER resort to such things.

That wasn't even a decent attempt at the PeeWee Herman (they did it tooooooo) Defense

are you trying to tell me the left DOES NOT fear monger?

please, try to tell me that.

Another PeeWee Herman Defense Fail

 

[Lesh]

So now Fox is a legitimate news source for liberals ?

Way to (intentionally) get it wrong.

When even FOX is pointing out the Trump bullshit...it's bullshit

 

[Coyote]

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”

He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

Fear mongering and lying. That's what Trump does

I'm assuming you have a dictionary, and can look up what the word "potentially" means.

The only one lying in your post, is you.

Nothing is ever 100 percent safe or secure or sure. So measure relative risk over cost and downsides. It seems the risk is quite low and Trump lied.

 

[Andylusion]

“Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.”

He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents.

“But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

Fear mongering and lying. That's what Trump does

I'm assuming you have a dictionary, and can look up what the word "potentially" means.

The only one lying in your post, is you.

Nothing is ever 100 percent safe or secure or sure. So measure relative risk over cost and downsides. It seems the risk is quite low and Trump lied.

Yeah, and the potential of someone flying a plane into a building was equally low for decades. Over the course of our entire nations existence, it was low. Then it happened twice in one day.

Low potential, does not mean, no potential in my book. If there is a chance, then there is a chance.

I think that is a valid concern.

 

[Andylusion]

Again...this covers people from countries with known or suspected terrorist activity. Not the PEOPLE...but the COUNTRY they come from...how many were "intercepted" at the border? Who knows...since they lumped in every possible entry...

Why so vague?

Because they are LYING

You said we don't know, and then ask why so vague?

When we have a stronger control on everyone who enters this country, I'm guessing the numbers will be less vague.

I think it should be a given fact, that the risk of having a terrorist element enter the country from Lebanon is higher than say Columbia. So giving an assessment of potential risk based on the country of origin seems rather.... logical. What am I missing?

 

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Muhammad Azeem and Mukhtar Ahmad, Pakistani nationals, Mexico-California border, September 2015, affiliation unknown

U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended Azeem and Ahmad just north of Tijuana after the pair had traveled from their home in Gujrat, Pakistan, through Latin America. Database checks revealed that both migrants were on U.S. terrorism watch lists.11 Two months earlier, Panama had detained and released both migrants to continue their travels north. One of the Pakistanis was listed in the TSDB because of associations with a known or suspected terrorist. The second was a positive match for "derogatory information" in another database, most likely TIDE.12

Unnamed Sri Lankan national, detained at Texas-Mexico border, March 2012, Tamil Tigers

This Sri Lankan was with two other Sri Lankans apprehended by Border Patrol agents in McAllen, Texas. He stated that he belonged to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization. He stated that his group was en route to Canada.14 The Tamil Tigers, militarily defeated in 2009, perfected the art of suicide bombing and were reportedly attempting to reconstitute the organization abroad.15

Unidentified Afghan national, reported smuggled into the United States, between 2014-2016, Pakistani Taliban

In 2017, federal prosecutors convicted Sharafat Ali Khan, a Pakistani human smuggler based in Brazil, for transporting between 25 and 99 illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Afghanistan from Brazil to Texas and California over the Mexican border. According to the Washington Times, at least one of Khan's customers was an Afghan "who authorities said was involved in a plot to conduct an attack in the U.S. or Canada and had family ties to members of the Taliban."9 No secondary corroboration for the report could be found, but it also has not been disputed, retracted, or corrected. The newspaper reported that "documents reviewed by The Times" said the Afghan man was listed on the U.S. No Fly List and in the TSDB for family ties to Taliban terrorists. At an October 2017 sentencing hearing, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton did not mention the Afghan, but admonished Khan, "You don't know whether they're seeking a better life or whether they're tying to get in here to engage in terrorism. People could have died, people could have gotten injured, families could have lost loved ones."10

Unnamed Bangladeshi national, detained near Naco, Ariz., June 2010, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh

One of two Bangladeshis apprehended after traveling together and illegally crossing from Mexico admitted to U.S. Border Patrol interviewers that both had worked in the "General Assembly" for the U.S.-designated terrorist group Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh. Subsequently, one of two detainees was deported, but the other was granted bond on an asylum claim and absconded.17

Abdullahi Omar Fidse, Somalia, detained at Mexico-Texas Border, June 2008, al-Shabaab

In July 2013, a U.S. District Judge sentenced Fidse on convictions for lying to the FBI about his terrorism associations after he traveled through Latin America to a Mexico-Texas port of entry in 2008.18 An FBI counterterrorism investigation found he had served as an al-Shabaab combat operative, crossed the border intending to conduct an unspecified operation, possessed the cell phone number of a terrorist implicated in the 2010 Uganda bombing that killed 70 soccer fans, and laid out details of a plan to assassinate the U.S. ambassador to Kenya and his Marine guard. He also worked as a weapons procurement operative, once buying an armed vehicle for $100,000 that was blown up in battle, killing all aboard. To a government informant, Fidse discussed the Quranic imperative to "terrorize the infidels" and stated, "We are terrorists."19

He admired Osama bin Ladin, demanded vengeance on infidels for the U.S. Hellfire missile killing of a senior al-Shabaab leader, and believed all good Muslims must commit two acts of jihad a year. Fidse's terrorism involvement was uncovered after an FBI informant inside a Texas detention facility began recording him discussing it.20 U.S. Attorney Robert Pittman said after sentencing: "This prosecution demonstrates the vigilance of the federal government in detecting and disabling individuals who seek to enter the country illegally with the purpose of doing harm."

Farida Goolam Ahmed, Pakistani national, illegally crossed the Mexico-Texas border, July 2004, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)

Ahmed's apprehension at the McAllen, Texas, airport while carrying clothing still wet from crossing the Rio Grande and a passport mutilated to hide her airport arrival in Mexico City drew brief national media attention as a potential terrorist infiltration, which faded after official government declarations that she was not connected to terrorism.23 However, a December 9, 2004, U.S. Border and Transportation Security intelligence summary of the case stated that Ahmed was "linked to specific terrorist activities."24 MQM is a Pakistan political movement and party that has been involved in terroristic political violence and has been regarded by the U.S. government as a "Tier III" terrorist organization.25 Court transcripts and government investigative materials identified Ahmed as a South Africa-based human smuggler for MQM who sources said operated an MQM safe house in Johannesburg that provided shelter for terrorists "on the run", to include a participant in a 1995 ambush murder of two U.S. consulate employees in Karachi, Pakistan.26 An FBI official with direct knowledge of the investigation said Ahmed's husband was a confirmed member of a terrorist organization.27

She regularly transported Pakistanis and others associated with MQM over the U.S.-Mexico border and also into Canada and Australia. Houston-based federal prosecutor Abe Martinez, chief of the Southern District of Texas national security section in the U.S. Attorney's Office, was asked if she or anyone she smuggled might have been involved in terrorism. "Were they linked to any terrorism organizations? I would have to say yes."28An uncorroborated Homeland Security Today magazine report cited U.S. intelligence sources alleging that Ahmed was linked to Pakistanis arrested in the United Kingdom who were plotting a terror attack in New York.29 Ahmed pleaded guilty to illegal entry and false statements and was deported with time served.30

Muhammad Kourani, Lebanese national, illegally crossed Mexico-U.S. border, date unknown (sometime before 2003), Hezbollah

Court records from a current prosecution of a New York City-based member of Hezbollah's foreign terrorist wing known as "Unit 910" revealed that the defendant's father, Muhammad Kourani, had "entered the United States illegally on foot."31 "U.S. prosecutors accuse the son, Ali Kourani, in a multi-count indictment of collecting intelligence for potential assassinations and bombings in the United States for Unit 910 from 2008 through at least 2015.32

Court records from his son's New York prosecution describe Mohammed Kourani as having intimate knowledge of and participation in his son's communications with a Hezbollah overseer inside Lebanon and also that the father knew two other sons were Hezbollah members and that at least one unrelated man in the New York area was a Hezbollah intelligence operative.33 After Muhammad Kourani illegally entered the United States from Mexico, he fraudulently married a woman to gain legal residency. The date of the illegal entry is not provided. He then sought immigration relief for his son, the defendant Ali Kourani, and also one other of his sons, Moustafa Kourani, based on the purported marriage. Court records from the case show at least three of Muhammad Kourani's sons were Hezbollah operatives.34 Ultimately, the U.S. defendant, Ali Kourani, legally immigrated from Cyprus to the United States in 2003. It was unclear whether his father was involved in that immigration, but the dates indicate that Muhammad Kourani would likely have crossed from Mexico prior to 2003. The other son and defendant's brother, Moustafa Kourani, whom their father also helped enter the United States was, in 2017, undergoing deportation proceedings while also under FBI investigation as a suspected Hezbollah operative.

Al-Manar Television employee, Lebanese national, smuggled over Mexico-California border, 2001 or 2002, Hezbollah

Out of the 2003-2004 U.S. smuggling prosecution of Lebanese national Salim Boughader Mucharrafille came information that his Tijuana-based organization smuggled one client over the Mexico-California who worked for a Hezbollah-owned satellite television network.35 The U.S. government designated Hezbollah a foreign terrorist organization in 1997. The U.S. Department of the Treasury designated its satellite television operation as a terrorist entity in part because employees have been known to conduct pre-operational surveillance for Hezbollah "under cover of employment by Al-Manar", according to the U.S. Treasury Department.36 The station was added to the U.S. State Department's Terrorist Exclusion List in 2004.37


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