Fox News makes Obama Cry

[drsmith1072]

And your response to DUDE is different from your descriptions of his posts how?

And how is yours to me different?

easy, i never made the claim that all you were capable of is hurling comments from the penut gallery. I only made an observation of your post to dude containing the exact behavior you were berating dude for displaying.


I know you are smarter than this

LOL and yet making an observation is all bfgrn did as well. LOL
Oh and NO I already spelled out the difference for you based on teh fact that bfrn has actually provided posts that engage in debate where as dude has NOT.


I know you are smarter than this

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Nice lie pilgrim but I even asked you to go back and PROVE how I took anything that you said out of context and you failed.



This is the same thing I did to your post. I seperately quoted your individual arguments and discredited them one by one in their full context and in response you FALSELY accused me of editing your posts and have continued to do so to CYA based on the fact that I discredited your spin.

The sad thing is that the majority of the righties on this board will do or say anything in a desperate attempt to smear and attack the messenger because they can't HONESTLY counter or debate the message. The last few pages of this thread are a perfect example of that.

you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

I'm not sure of your intelligence but i think your smart enough to know this is what you did.

See what I mean?

He's

I do see what you mean.

 

[drsmith1072]

i'm not ignoring you i just dont take you seriously after you hacked apart what I said in such a way to misrepresent my statements.

Nice lie pilgrim but I even asked you to go back and PROVE how I took anything that you said out of context and you failed.

Just ask Si Modo i think she was your latest creative quote modification.

This is the same thing I did to your post. I seperately quoted your individual arguments and discredited them one by one in their full context and in response you FALSELY accused me of editing your posts and have continued to do so to CYA based on the fact that I discredited your spin.

The sad thing is that the majority of the righties on this board will do or say anything in a desperate attempt to smear and attack the messenger because they can't HONESTLY counter or debate the message. The last few pages of this thread are a perfect example of that.

you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

NO I did not. I left your comments in their context and responded to them as a whole. you just could deal with the fact that your biased spin being countered so you started attacking me and falsely accusing me of doing something I did not do.

I'm not sure of your intelligence but i think your smart enough to know this is what you did.

I guess I was wrong to assume that you were honest enough to admit when you were WRONG. however, if you could prove your allegation that would be greatly appreciated but since you have avoided doing so in the past I will stick with the belief that you know that you can't or else you would have and ended this debate. Here I will go get your original post and provide my response so I will half the work for you then you can show me when and where I took what you said out of context.

 

[Wicked Jester]

you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

I'm not sure of your intelligence but i think your smart enough to know this is what you did.

See what I mean?

He's

I do see what you mean.

Now, let me tell ya' what will happen next.

Either today, tomorrow, next week, or whenever, he will come back up and post about 6-15 cut and paste messages in a row in an attempt to redeem himself, and desperately attempt to make himself feel as though he's won something. Seriously, it's friggin' bizarre. Fact is, nobody pays attention, and nobody cares.

I guarantee it!

Let me know what happens.

 

[drsmith1072]

here is your post.

Politically, I find most Liberals intolerant of other's viewpoints.

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Conservatives and Liberals have very different outlooks on life. In fact liberals have a completely diffferent culture than conservatives. This leads to both sides arguing over subjects as their differing culture leads them to different opinions on the subject.

A big part of the liberal culture is the preaching of tolerance for others. Tolerance and respect for those around the world, tolerance and respect for minorities, tolerance for illegal immigrants, and so on.

However when it comes to dealing with the conservative culture liberals become very ethnocentric. The majority of liberals show very little, if any, respect for the conservative culture. Especially on message boards. In fact on message boards liberals are completely intolerant of conservative culture and values.

This constantly makes me think of hypocracy. The liberals who do this remind me of the conservatives who preach family values then cheat on their wifes, hypocrites.

So liberals next time you get all wound up and ready to bash on some conservative for wanting guns, not wanting abortion, being against radicals in their white house, being wary of who the president surrounds themselves with, or their hate of government involvment in our lives and the taxes that comes along with it....remember it makes you sound like hypocrites to many fair minded individuals.



Another random thought of mine that i decided to post

and here is my response

Conservatives and Liberals have very different outlooks on life. In fact liberals have a completely diffferent culture than conservatives. This leads to both sides arguing over subjects as their differing culture leads them to different opinions on the subject.

A big part of the liberal culture is the preaching of tolerance for others. Tolerance and respect for those around the world, tolerance and respect for minorities, tolerance for illegal immigrants, and so on.

The left is hell of a lot more tolerant than the right. LOL

However when it comes to dealing with the conservative culture liberals become very ethnocentric. The majority of liberals show very little, if any, respect for the conservative culture. Especially on message boards. In fact on message boards liberals are completely intolerant of conservative culture and values.

This bs reminds me of a country music song that I heard a while back, not sure about the performer but the basic gist of it was that he didn't want people telling them how to live his life while he preached his morality at other people and was trying to tell others how to live. This is the same as most other disagreements with righties. They have different standards for themselves than they try to hold others to.

This constantly makes me think of hypocracy.

of your own party??

The liberals who do this remind me of the conservatives who preach family values then cheat on their wifes, hypocrites.

I still beleive as i always have that dissent is patriotic but that will not stop me from pointing out how many more conservatives their are out there now who have started to claim this since the day they were voted into the minority and a democrat was elected president. Before that the majority of those on the right labeled those who dared to disagree with W as being traitors, un-American and unpatriotic.

So liberals next time you get all wound up and ready to bash on some conservative for wanting guns, not wanting abortion, being against radicals in their white house, being wary of who the president surrounds themselves with, or their hate of government involvment in our lives and the taxes that comes along with it....remember it makes you sound like hypocrites to many fair minded individuals.

WOW do you wants some cheese with that WHINE. LOL You whine like a spoiled child about these things and yet it would seemed that the majority of those you are trying to defend wouldn't hesitate for a second when they felt that they have a chance to attack the left concerning the above issues, among others.

You know, it's funny but it seems that you believe that the liberals are better people than the conservatives. That the left should always take the high road no matter how low dishonest, hypocritical and partisan the right becomes. LOL

hate government involvement?? Funny how that one was left in the ditch when W was president and now that a dem is president it's been brought back out again. LOL Oh well it's nothing but more conservative HYPOCRISY.

Another random thought of mine that i decided to post

LOL Please do try to keep such inane moronic and hypocrtical thoughts to yourself in the future. Thanks.

here is your false allegation against me.

Are you talking about the other post you made where you deleted half of what I orginally said and hacked apart other comments I made to fit into your view of me?

so what did I delete and hack apart?? Fact is i deleted nothing and merely presented an opinion the opposed the one that you presented and you decided to attack me and try to discredit the messenger.

 

[drsmith1072]

See what I mean?

He's

I do see what you mean.

Now, let me tell ya' what will happen next.

Either today, tomorrow, next week, or whenever, he will come back up and post about 6-15 cut and paste messages in a row in an attempt to redeem himself, and desperately attempt to make himself feel as though he's won something. Seriously, it's friggin' bizarre. Fact is, nobody pays attention, and nobody cares.

I guarantee it!

Let me know what happens.

OMG this is friggin hilarious.

Jester goes out of his way to attack me while he ignores me and then says "Fact is, nobody pays attention, and nobody cares" and then he follows that up with "Let me know what happens." LOL So it's pretty obvious that jester cares. LOL

so I guess his guarantee is worthless LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

i'll entertain you drsmith but you have to do me a tiny favor. Re-post the link to the video and tell me what you want me to look for in it to debate.

 

[drsmith1072]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

i'll entertain you drsmith but you have to do me a tiny favor. Re-post the link to the video and tell me what you want me to look for in it to debate.

oh so no comment on me proving your accusation

Are you talking about the other post you made where you deleted half of what I orginally said and hacked apart other comments I made to fit into your view of me?

false?? Why is that?? why can't be honest enough to admit that you were WRONG??

I have already looked at the video and described it thoughout this thread. Furthermore, it is posted at the beginning of this thread. So what do you need for me to explain for you??

 

[Oldandtired]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

I did not see your video.....but did they verbally refer to him as a democrat....or did they simply have a D next to his name?

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

i'll entertain you drsmith but you have to do me a tiny favor. Re-post the link to the video and tell me what you want me to look for in it to debate.

oh so no comment on me proving your accusation

Are you talking about the other post you made where you deleted half of what I orginally said and hacked apart other comments I made to fit into your view of me?

false?? Why is that?? why can't be honest enough to admit that you were WRONG??

I have already looked at the video and described it thoughout this thread. Furthermore, it is posted at the beginning of this thread. So what do you need for me to explain for you??

Fine dont do the tiny favor if you dont want me to debate it with you.

and i'll do you a favor and re-explain it so you understand your hackery from our previous interaction. you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

 

[Meister]

i'll entertain you drsmith but you have to do me a tiny favor. Re-post the link to the video and tell me what you want me to look for in it to debate.

oh so no comment on me proving your accusation

Are you talking about the other post you made where you deleted half of what I orginally said and hacked apart other comments I made to fit into your view of me?

false?? Why is that?? why can't be honest enough to admit that you were WRONG??

I have already looked at the video and described it thoughout this thread. Furthermore, it is posted at the beginning of this thread. So what do you need for me to explain for you??

Fine dont do the tiny favor if you dont want me to debate it with you.

and i'll do you a favor and re-explain it so you understand your hackery from our previous interaction. you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

Don't bother with him, Pilgrim, this is the way smith rolls.

 

[drsmith1072]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

I did not see your video.....but did they verbally refer to him as a democrat....or did they simply have a D next to his name?

If you can't keep up please refrain from posting. I was CLEARLY talking about the cavuto video in which before hand he has NO clue as the real size of the crowd but when he goes to air he proclaims the number as if it were fact then tries to talk up his fictitious number. That's dishonest. Attacking the source won't change that.

Furthermore, what does it matter you will attack the source and make up any lame excuses just as you did with the cavuto video. Fact is that they listed him as a democrat and that was FALSE and I don't remember seeing any correction of it or mention of correction. I wonder why??

 

[Oldandtired]

Funny thing is that I was trying to debate the video and yet no one on the right wants to talk about the video or the fact that foxnews has listed an embarassed republican as a democrat. Instead they want to attack me and try to change the subject to me as they ignore the debate. Imagine that.

I did not see your video.....but did they verbally refer to him as a democrat....or did they simply have a D next to his name?

If you can't keep up please refrain from posting. I was CLEARLY talking about the cavuto video in which before hand he has NO clue as the real size of the crowd but when he goes to air he proclaims the number as if it were fact then tries to talk up his fictitious number. That's dishonest. Attacking the source won't change that.

Furthermore, what does it matter you will attack the source and make up any lame excuses just as you did with the cavuto video. Fact is that they listed him as a democrat and that was FALSE and I don't remember seeing any correction of it or mention of correction. I wonder why??

yo..I thought you were referring to another video about calling someone a dem when he was a rep.

Do yourself a favor....see that video again and listen in the background. They could not tell the size of the crowd, but they knew it was at least 5000...evident by him saying "it has to be 5000"...which, when taken in the right context means..."at least 5000"

Also take note at how many times the clip is "cut".....perjhpas there were less there when he was "off the air" and more there when he was on the air? I mean.....he was off the air at the begoinning when people werre still arriving.

But I must ask...is that the best lie you can come up with?

If it was such a big lie, why didnt ABC, NBC and CBS have it on the Evening News as they did when Rather lied?

Why is it thjat only the Kos reported it?

 

[drsmith1072]

i'll entertain you drsmith but you have to do me a tiny favor. Re-post the link to the video and tell me what you want me to look for in it to debate.

oh so no comment on me proving your accusation

Are you talking about the other post you made where you deleted half of what I orginally said and hacked apart other comments I made to fit into your view of me?

false?? Why is that?? why can't be honest enough to admit that you were WRONG??

I have already looked at the video and described it thoughout this thread. Furthermore, it is posted at the beginning of this thread. So what do you need for me to explain for you??

Fine dont do the tiny favor if you dont want me to debate it with you.

LOL why should I do you a favor when you have gone ouit of your way to attack me and smear me with you dishonest claim that i deleted part of your post when it is ALL there in it's entirety and took nothing out of context to change it's meaning.

and i'll do you a favor and re-explain it so you understand your hackery from our previous interaction. you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

Nice vague generalities but I provided the posts so why not show some specifics from the posts instead of merely making generalized statements that don't apply to the posts in question?? Fact is that I did nothing of the sort and you continue to avoid the posts and the facts to cover for you dishonesty and your baseless personal attacks.

BTW your spin above still does not explain your claim

Are you talking about the other post you made where you deleted half of what I orginally said and hacked apart other comments I made to fit into your view of me?

That allegation that you made is FALSE and you are still avoiding it furthermore, your new spin proves nothing except that you continue to avoid the facts.

 

[drsmith1072]

oh so no comment on me proving your accusation




false?? Why is that?? why can't be honest enough to admit that you were WRONG??

I have already looked at the video and described it thoughout this thread. Furthermore, it is posted at the beginning of this thread. So what do you need for me to explain for you??

Fine dont do the tiny favor if you dont want me to debate it with you.

and i'll do you a favor and re-explain it so you understand your hackery from our previous interaction. you creatively seperated my entire statements, which were qualified by previous language within the paragraph, so that they were no longer in context. Then your responses further removed them from their context in a way that misrepresented the argument I had made.

Don't bother with him, Pilgrim, this is the way smith rolls.

So chiming in to engage in baselss attacks against me as you pile on says what about you?? Believe me, you don't want to know.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Ah avoidence and deflection with a slight hint of projection, kudos to you for showing your true intent..

 

[drsmith1072]

I did not see your video.....but did they verbally refer to him as a democrat....or did they simply have a D next to his name?

If you can't keep up please refrain from posting. I was CLEARLY talking about the cavuto video in which before hand he has NO clue as the real size of the crowd but when he goes to air he proclaims the number as if it were fact then tries to talk up his fictitious number. That's dishonest. Attacking the source won't change that.

Furthermore, what does it matter you will attack the source and make up any lame excuses just as you did with the cavuto video. Fact is that they listed him as a democrat and that was FALSE and I don't remember seeing any correction of it or mention of correction. I wonder why??

yo..I thought you were referring to another video about calling someone a dem when he was a rep.

Do yourself a favor....see that video again and listen in the background. They could not tell the size of the crowd, but they knew it was at least 5000...evident by him saying "it has to be 5000"...which, when taken in the right context means..."at least 5000"

Also take note at how many times the clip is "cut".....perjhpas there were less there when he was "off the air" and more there when he was on the air? I mean.....he was off the air at the begoinning when people werre still arriving.

But I must ask...is that the best lie you can come up with?

If it was such a big lie, why didnt ABC, NBC and CBS have it on the Evening News as they did when Rather lied?

Why is it thjat only the Kos reported it?

and the fact that they didn't know certain is the proof that they dishonestly trumped up the numbers. If they didn't know for certain then the only honest thing to do was not bring it up but then on top of that they talked it up.

furthermore, a while back all you guys wanted was one lie and then after you get it you try to tear it apart and make excuses for cavuto and foxnews as you claim "is that the best lie you can come up with?"

LOL A lie is a lie and even you admitted that it was a LIE So another win for the left and the fact that foxnews does lie has been clearly admitted. LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

Ah avoidence and deflection with a slight hint of projection, kudos to you for showing your true intent..

LOL Says the one avoiding and projecting. Is that really the best that you've got?? I have to say that I am thoroughly disappointed.

I stated the FACTS concerning your false allegation and asked you for specifics to back up your allegation and in response you provide the same tired old parroted vague generalities and then turn tail and run. Imagine that.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I'm right here and not running away

Grab the link for me and tell me what you want me to watch for and i will.

Or continue to avoid and deflect, the ball is in your court.