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I know that you have said you are resisting watching the videos.. I can't help you if you just want to speculate on what was said and not said. But from 3:10 to about 6:30 in the video for THIS OP.. There is a long discussion about reimbursement and "expressing it correctly" and "per organ charges" and lawyers and all the rest. No where in that segment does the doctor shut down the convo.. Her concern is more about HOW the reimbursement is labeled "time and effort" than it is about her ethics or willingness to change her medical procedures to please these buyers.. PERHAPS -- some PP lawyers would have shut her down at some future point... But the atrocious accommodations that she gives up in this interview is very disturbing..
If you won't watch any of the videos, please don't ask for help on what was said. You can QUESTION the completeness of the editing, but let's not ignore the willingness that this VP of PP and a surgeon to discuss and make "deals" with the buyers.
So in short, she specifically said they can't sell tissues, and can ONLY charge reimbursement. And the nuts edited that out because it doesn't make their case.
The problem here is that you see these tissues as "babies". She doesn't. She sees them as medical waste.
Which legally, is what they are.
They DID NOT edit out "the negotiation" part.. Losing track of WHICH vid we're talking about now. But in TWO of them, there is CLEARLY an extended conversation about relabeling and rephrasing the reimbursements. With BOTH sides suggesting ways to get around direct payments. Perhaps you also should VIEW the material to find this stuff. The "see no evil" "hear no evil" leftist affliction seems to be widespread here..
And you are wrong about the "medical waste" part. That's why there are SEPARATE Federal Guidelines for the collection and disposal of fetal tissue..
The only difference between a family holding a wake and a funeral for a miscarraige and the corpse left from an abortion -- is that the former was a WANTED baby and the latter was an UNWANTED baby.. This whole dustup (to me anyway) is about dignity, humane treatment, and respect. And most medical professionals would agree with me..
FTR I have had hip replacement surgery.
What happened to the discarded bone and tissue?
It was human tissue and it was treated as medical waste.
Probably ended up in an incinerator with thousands of other human body parts like diseased kidneys and amputated limbs.
Now does that mean that it wasn't treated with "dignity, humane treatment and respect" simply because it was discarded human tissue?
It was given the appropriate regulated treatment due to discarded human treatment.
I don't see these anti-rights extremist zealots making illegal videos and lying about the people who dispose of the human tissues that came from my body and the those of millions of my fellow Americans.
I don't see them making illegal videos in the for-profit invitro clinics either.