Former President Jimmy Carter Dead

This thread is an example of the extreme polarization infecting our politics in recent times. Rabidly partisan Republicans refuse to admit that Jimmy Carter did anything good and blame him for things that were beyond his control. Most of them can't even admit that Carter was an honorable, decent man.

We see the same extremism from rabid Democrats regarding Donald Trump, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan.
 
Doesn't matter re oil; we had our own production, and it's a simple matter of cutting back exports of our own production and using it here; no reason we have to pay global market prices when have our own supply. This is why increasing domestic production doesn't do squat to reduce domestic prices as long as the companies are allowed to sell at global market prices and export production from here.
The only way to stop companies to sell at global market prices is to nationalize them.
 
The only way to stop companies to sell at global market prices is to nationalize them.

Which is my point. But right wingers think that is what Carter should have done, cuz they had to wait in a line or something. One clown even thought his real estate scam was a valid reason to jump ahead of others, lol such is the narcissism of burb brat halfwits with high self-esteem and it's bizarre though processes.
 
This thread is an example of the extreme polarization infecting our politics in recent times. Rabidly partisan Republicans refuse to admit that Jimmy Carter did anything good and blame him for things that were beyond his control. Most of them can't even admit that Carter was an honorable, decent man.

We see the same extremism from rabid Democrats regarding Donald Trump, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan.
We lived through the Carter times. Stagflation, but .....

MAINLY 444 DAYS HE LEFT OUR PEOPLE IN IRAN.

Sorry. I havent forgotten that.
 
Yeah, cuz becoming a Soviet puppet dictatorship would have been so much better.

Idiot.

If that's what the people voted for, so be it.

The problem was that Mossedeqhi wanted Iran to actually get the wealth from its own oil instead of British Petroleum. So we overthrew him.

And now we have the Ayatollahs to deal with.
 
We lived through the Carter times. Stagflation, but .....

MAINLY 444 DAYS HE LEFT OUR PEOPLE IN IRAN.

Sorry. I havent forgotten that.

Gee, we got through that okay. They were all released.

As opposed to American hostages in Lebanon under Ronnie Raygun, who were there for years, and when he traded arms for hostages, they just took new hostages.
 
This thread is an example of the extreme polarization infecting our politics in recent times. Rabidly partisan Republicans refuse to admit that Jimmy Carter did anything good and blame him for things that were beyond his control. Most of them can't even admit that Carter was an honorable, decent man.

We see the same extremism from rabid Democrats regarding Donald Trump, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan.
Actually, I'm a liberal Democrat who thinks Carter was a bad president.

He went along with too many right wing schemes to let Corporate America **** the consumer and the worker.

He was ineffectual in foreign affairs. He couldn't get legislation passed with strong majorities in both houses of Congress all four years he was in. (Something no other president had.)

It's why so many Democrats were ready to dump him in 1980 for Ted Kennedy, and so many others did dump him for John Anderson.

Was he a good man at heart? Yup.

But he was a terrible president.
 
Actually, I'm a liberal Democrat who thinks Carter was a bad president.

He went along with too many right wing schemes to let Corporate America **** the consumer and the worker.

He was ineffectual in foreign affairs. He couldn't get legislation passed with strong majorities in both houses of Congress all four years he was in. (Something no other president had.)

It's why so many Democrats were ready to dump him in 1980 for Ted Kennedy, and so many others did dump him for John Anderson.

Was he a good man at heart? Yup.

But he was a terrible president.
He did nothing for the exponentially growing social programs that President Johnson got passed with the Great Society. Medicare was growing also. Employees taxes were rising as a percentage of income with all of this as there were many tax rackets and no COLA in an era of inflation and malaise.
 
Heart warming speech from Biden for Carter, America must be proud -

 
He wasn't honorable or decent for the reasons I stated in post #248. You will NEVER find a Democrat of a national level who puts Christian teaching over leftist doctrine. Not a single one of them is sincere about their Christianity including the Catholic Democrat politicians. Biden doesn't believe what he says. Neither does Pelosi. It's a con job of the worst kind they are pulling.

^^^ Not what a true Christian would say.
 
Carter was a lousy President but a great humanitarian.
Carter was a lousy president and a disgusting humanitarian. He tried habitat for humanity to make up for telling the elderly who were freezing in his energy policies that they didn't deserve heat over 55 degrees. Put on a sweater. Nothing could make up for his ruin. His place in hell has been assured.
 
The French sort of archaic Catholicism guys don't speak for Christians at all.,

The Pope is a good model for you, Mashmont. You should follow it.
 
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Another positive thing that Carter did was to vastly increase U.S. oil and natural gas production to reduce our dependence on foreign oil (see, for example, LINK). Under Carter, a large number of new oil and natural gas drilling permits were issued, which led to the start of a substantial cut in our crude oil imports by 1981.

Yes, Carter's betrayal of the Shah of Iran was a horrible mistake. Carter never seemed to grasp the reality that sometimes we have to support repressive pro-Western regimes because the alternative is even worse. No sane person would deny that the Ayatollah's rule was far worse than the Shah's rule.

Again, I'm glad Reagan won in 1980. I'm a big Reagan fan. But it is simply wrong to say that Carter did nothing good--he did lots of good things, along with lots of bad things.
So..if Carter increased production (which I highly doubt happened) why were there gas lines and people could only get 1/2 a tank? :wtf:
That's not the type of thing that happens when production increases.
Increases in production don't lead to severe shortages like that.
 
We lived through the Carter times. Stagflation, but .....

MAINLY 444 DAYS HE LEFT OUR PEOPLE IN IRAN.

Sorry. I havent forgotten that.

Gee, we got through that okay. They were all released.

As opposed to American hostages in Lebanon under Ronnie Raygun, who were there for years, and when he traded arms for hostages, they just took new hostages.

He did nothing for the exponentially growing social programs that President Johnson got passed with the Great Society. Medicare was growing also. Employees taxes were rising as a percentage of income with all of this as there were many tax rackets and no COLA in an era of inflation and malaise.
It's this time again, and then some!
 
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