For those who supported Netanyahu's NO two states....

[nat4900]

And I bet you're just cheering for that.

Simplistic, but expected, response from a right winger.

 

[FJO]

Don't mean to sow dissent on here, however, I was just wondering if even one right winger on here would respond to Netanyahu's 180 degree turn from his pre-election "NO TWO STATE solution"...to his latest, "I didn't mean that, really, and Israel does want a peaceful Israeli-Palestine neighborly partnership..."

As a right winger who supported both Bibi's speech before Congress AND his pre-election declaration, do you:

1. Support Bibi's return to sanity
2. Disagree with Bibi's latest conciliatory turn about

Let me ask you:

1. If (never mind if, when) Iran gets the nuclear bomb will they p[lace it so precisely that it will only wipe Israel off the map but save the Palestinian State?

2. If Jews become more like you unproductive, lazy free-loading and stupid ***** like you, would you stop hating them?

Glad you got that bit of stupidity out of your system.....and you know you're writhing in your bile.....But, the fact that Palestine is adjacent to Israel SHOULD be the best of your admission that all that Iran is trying to do is to have ONE nuke to Israel's TWO HUNDRED nukes.

Do you really think that a nuclear Iran would give a shit about Palestinian Arabs if it could wipe out Israel?
Do you really think that Iranians have any respect for Arabs?
Do you really think that President Obama would really care if Israel were wiped off the map?
Do you really know that there is no Palestine and there will never will be one as long as Netanyahu is PM?
Do you really think that beside a few unusual exception, you and your ilk can compete with Jews?
Do you and your ilk think that working hard for what you got is unconstitutional?
Do you think that what I worked for all my life belongs to the government? Would you feel the same way if you had the same legacy for your children?
Would you consider yourself stupid for making the lives of your children better by leaving a monetary legacy?
Would you hate yourself for leaving what you acquired in your life for your children rather than some African tribe?

 

[nat4900]

[[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not politicians playing to their base to win an election is not exclusive to the United States it happens in every country that has free elections.[/QUOTE]

No doubt......but I still wonder if Obama in 2008 had made a statement like this, "Come on minorities, McCain is bussing in a whole bunch of evangelicals to vote....get out there..."

How would THAT have played out in this country?

 

[bendog]

So, we now have two threads in which the bottom line for why a deal with Iran is a bad idea is that Iran will nuke the Palestinians too. LOL

 

[nat4900]

[/QUOTE]

Let me ask you:

1. If (never mind if, when) Iran gets the nuclear bomb will they p[lace it so precisely that it will only wipe Israel off the map but save the Palestinian State?

2. If Jews become more like you unproductive, lazy free-loading and stupid ***** like you, would you stop hating them?[/QUOTE]


Glad you got that bit of stupidity out of your system.....and you know you're writhing in your bile.....But, the fact that Palestine is adjacent to Israel SHOULD be the best of your admission that all that Iran is trying to do is to have ONE nuke to Israel's TWO HUNDRED nukes.[/QUOTE]

Do you really think that a nuclear Iran would give a shit about Palestinian Arabs if it could wipe out Israel?
Do you really think that Iranians have any respect for Arabs?
Do you really think that President Obama would really care if Israel were wiped off the map?
Do you really know that there is no Palestine and there will never will be one as long as Netanyahu is PM?
Do you really think that beside a few unusual exception, you and your ilk can compete with Jews?
Do you and your ilk think that working hard for what you got is unconstitutional?
Do you think that what I worked for all my life belongs to the government? Would you feel the same way if you had the same legacy for your children?
Would you consider yourself stupid for making the lives of your children better by leaving a monetary legacy?
Would you hate yourself for leaving what you acquired in your life for your children rather than some African tribe?[/QUOTE]
________________________________________________________________

There's a lot of deep-hatred seething in your post......

But some facts may help.....

I would think that Iran fully knows that ANY nuke dropped in that area of the ME would send a cloud that tantamount to a suicidal wave.

Secondly, where exactly it is written that Israel is the only country in that area who can be fully trusted with nuke (Last count Israel has 200 of them)?

Third, unless Israel stops exercising apartheid-like practices against Palestinians and stops bulldozing their houses, this entire mess will never be resolved.

 

[FJO]

Don't mean to sow dissent on here, however, I was just wondering if even one right winger on here would respond to Netanyahu's 180 degree turn from his pre-election "NO TWO STATE solution"...to his latest, "I didn't mean that, really, and Israel does want a peaceful Israeli-Palestine neighborly partnership..."

As a right winger who supported both Bibi's speech before Congress AND his pre-election declaration, do you:

1. Support Bibi's return to sanity
2. Disagree with Bibi's latest conciliatory turn about

Let me ask you:

1. If (never mind if, when) Iran gets the nuclear bomb will they p[lace it so precisely that it will only wipe Israel off the map but save the Palestinian State?

2. If Jews become more like you unproductive, lazy free-loading and stupid ***** like you, would you stop hating them?

If the Jews are so PRODUCTIVE, why do they depend on $5 billion a year from us? Oh, I know...the cons would rather give it to Jews than to Americans.

Maybe because the countries surrounding Israel are supported by oil-rich kingdoms and/or Islamic terror states and are hell bent on destroying the country that dares to defy their murderous pseudo religion and unlike them, have human values.
Maybe it is because a country that should have been there for two or more thousands of years, now fighting for its United Nations authorized existence, a country that defeated incompetent enemies and captured their land and in human tradition refuses to give up the spoils of war, wants to prove that human rights and democracy is possible even if surrounded by the followers of a murderous pedophile.

You question the productiveness of Jews. OK, produce Muslim like Albert Einstein.

Why does this discussion have to boil down for you to which religion is "better?".....Besides, good ol' Einstein had to use the arithmetic and mathematics devised by Muslim Arabs...and Albert also liked to play an occasional game of chess, a game ALSO devised by Muslims.

OK, return to the present.

Nobody denies the genius of the Arab scientist/mathematician (name, anyone?) of the Arab who gave us the numbering system. Nobody who ever played chess denies the genius of the inventor of the game.

Nobody denies they were Arabs/Muslims.

But:

That was then, this now. Decent people don't stone women for looking at a guy other than her husband.
Decent people don't degrade and disrespect the human body - you know, the creation of ALLAH - by taking the head off the body that Allah created.

Nothing is more sad than the deterioration of a once great society into the morass and sub-human brutality of Al Qaida and Hezbollah and Boko Haram and Hamas.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Nat says: But some facts may help.....

I would think that Iran fully knows that ANY nuke dropped in that area of the ME would send a cloud that tantamount to a suicidal wave.
so why is Iran arming itself with nukes....?

Secondly, where exactly it is written that Israel is the only country in that area who can be fully trusted with nuke (Last count Israel has 200 of them)?
so you trust your declared enemies to get nuclear bombs and then suddenly turn into friends....?

Third, unless Israel stops exercising apartheid-like practices against Palestinians and stops bulldozing their houses, this entire mess will never be resolved.
bulldozing houses is done for several logical reasons:
-to counter military insurgencies
-to deter terrorism
-to enforce building codes

 

[nat4900]

Don't mean to sow dissent on here, however, I was just wondering if even one right winger on here would respond to Netanyahu's 180 degree turn from his pre-election "NO TWO STATE solution"...to his latest, "I didn't mean that, really, and Israel does want a peaceful Israeli-Palestine neighborly partnership..."

As a right winger who supported both Bibi's speech before Congress AND his pre-election declaration, do you:

1. Support Bibi's return to sanity
2. Disagree with Bibi's latest conciliatory turn about

Let me ask you:

1. If (never mind if, when) Iran gets the nuclear bomb will they p[lace it so precisely that it will only wipe Israel off the map but save the Palestinian State?

2. If Jews become more like you unproductive, lazy free-loading and stupid ***** like you, would you stop hating them?

If the Jews are so PRODUCTIVE, why do they depend on $5 billion a year from us? Oh, I know...the cons would rather give it to Jews than to Americans.

Maybe because the countries surrounding Israel are supported by oil-rich kingdoms and/or Islamic terror states and are hell bent on destroying the country that dares to defy their murderous pseudo religion and unlike them, have human values.
Maybe it is because a country that should have been there for two or more thousands of years, now fighting for its United Nations authorized existence, a country that defeated incompetent enemies and captured their land and in human tradition refuses to give up the spoils of war, wants to prove that human rights and democracy is possible even if surrounded by the followers of a murderous pedophile.

You question the productiveness of Jews. OK, produce Muslim like Albert Einstein.

Why does this discussion have to boil down for you to which religion is "better?".....Besides, good ol' Einstein had to use the arithmetic and mathematics devised by Muslim Arabs...and Albert also liked to play an occasional game of chess, a game ALSO devised by Muslims.

OK, return to the present.

Nobody denies the genius of the Arab scientist/mathematician (name, anyone?) of the Arab who gave us the numbering system. Nobody who ever played chess denies the genius of the inventor of the game.

Nobody denies they were Arabs/Muslims.

But:

That was then, this now. Decent people don't stone women for looking at a guy other than her husband.
Decent people don't degrade and disrespect the human body - you know, the creation of ALLAH - by taking the head off the body that Allah created.

Nothing is more sad than the deterioration of a once great society into the morass and sub-human brutality of Al Qaida and Hezbollah and Boko Haram and Hamas.

I can't argue that some within the Islamic faith have usurped the Q'uran's teachings and that the brutality of this relatively small percentile of Muslims are crazed, suicidal, psychopathic murderers.

That stated, we have 2 choices....One is to "kill all Muslims" which is a moronic assertion but one that dimwits in the West have openly stated.

The second choice is to put out the effort to understand the root causes for such rabid hatred (by some) toward us. Such root causes (agree with them or not) would take pages to explain, but briefly they boil down to our invasions, support for corrupt royal families, the Israeli-Palestinian discords, and the hegemony that we fall prey to in actually believing that others should be just like us....they're not.

 

[bodecea]

I see excuses.....lots and lots of excuses.

 

[FJO]

Let me ask you:

1. If (never mind if, when) Iran gets the nuclear bomb will they p[lace it so precisely that it will only wipe Israel off the map but save the Palestinian State?

2. If Jews become more like you unproductive, lazy free-loading and stupid ***** like you, would you stop hating them?[/QUOTE]


Glad you got that bit of stupidity out of your system.....and you know you're writhing in your bile.....But, the fact that Palestine is adjacent to Israel SHOULD be the best of your admission that all that Iran is trying to do is to have ONE nuke to Israel's TWO HUNDRED nukes.[/QUOTE]

Do you really think that a nuclear Iran would give a shit about Palestinian Arabs if it could wipe out Israel?
Do you really think that Iranians have any respect for Arabs?
Do you really think that President Obama would really care if Israel were wiped off the map?
Do you really know that there is no Palestine and there will never will be one as long as Netanyahu is PM?
Do you really think that beside a few unusual exception, you and your ilk can compete with Jews?
Do you and your ilk think that working hard for what you got is unconstitutional?
Do you think that what I worked for all my life belongs to the government? Would you feel the same way if you had the same legacy for your children?
Would you consider yourself stupid for making the lives of your children better by leaving a monetary legacy?
Would you hate yourself for leaving what you acquired in your life for your children rather than some African tribe?[/QUOTE]

There's a lot of deep-hatred seething in your post......

But some facts may help.....

I would think that Iran fully knows that ANY nuke dropped in that area of the ME would send a cloud that tantamount to a suicidal wave.

Secondly, where exactly it is written that Israel is the only country in that area who can be fully trusted with nuke (Last count Israel has 200 of them)?

Third, unless Israel stops exercising apartheid-like practices against Palestinians and stops bulldozing their houses, this entire mess will never be resolved.[/QUOTE]
You never answered my questions, so here they are:

Iran would be just as happy to kill all Arabs as they would be about killing all Christians, just because they are Iranians and they feel that they are superior to everyone else.

Iranians have no respect for Arabs, and they are totally uncomfortable with the idea that their "Religion" was founded by a pedophile, who - while endorsing all his ideas - they resent because he was not a Persian.

President Obama would not care if Israel was wiped off the map, whether the PM of Israel was Netanyahu or anyone else, because he is Obama. No more need be said.

Competing with Jews is risky, because of the almost always inevitable final result of defeat. The reason for hating Jews.

You die and everything you worked for belongs to anyone you care leave it to, not a freeloading government who has not earned anything to lay claim to it. Bet that you would sing a different tune if your freeloading and broke parents had left you anything at all in their will.

This is far as I got before getting tired of wasting time louts like you.
Get a brain, get some honesty, get some integrity and get some honesty.

Answer the questions

 

[nat4900]

Nat says: But some facts may help.....

I would think that Iran fully knows that ANY nuke dropped in that area of the ME would send a cloud that tantamount to a suicidal wave.
so why is Iran arming itself with nukes....?

Secondly, where exactly it is written that Israel is the only country in that area who can be fully trusted with nuke (Last count Israel has 200 of them)?
so you trust your declared enemies to get nuclear bombs and then suddenly turn into friends....?

Third, unless Israel stops exercising apartheid-like practices against Palestinians and stops bulldozing their houses, this entire mess will never be resolved.
bulldozing houses is done for several logical reasons:
-to counter military insurgencies
-to deter terrorism
-to enforce building codes

_____________________________

Well, the way you pose your retort may sound "logical" but logic is not always that simple......

Iran is just as afraqid of Israel as the other way around....Like our own cold war where we finally realized that the theory of MADD was true, Iran seems to want the parity of nuclear armaments that Isarel now possesses. No doubt this distrust has been fueled by idiots like Ahmadinejad and a few other psychopathic Iranians, but the vast majority of that Persian population is fully aware that they want the same things that decent human beings want.

Regarding the "bulldozing" of Palestinian homes....you neglected to state that once such a home is bulldozed (not for punishment or deterrent) and an Israeli settler takes over the now empty lot, such cannot be easily tolerated.

 

[aris2chat]

Nat says: But some facts may help.....

I would think that Iran fully knows that ANY nuke dropped in that area of the ME would send a cloud that tantamount to a suicidal wave.
so why is Iran arming itself with nukes....?

Secondly, where exactly it is written that Israel is the only country in that area who can be fully trusted with nuke (Last count Israel has 200 of them)?
so you trust your declared enemies to get nuclear bombs and then suddenly turn into friends....?

Third, unless Israel stops exercising apartheid-like practices against Palestinians and stops bulldozing their houses, this entire mess will never be resolved.
bulldozing houses is done for several logical reasons:
-to counter military insurgencies
-to deter terrorism
-to enforce building codes

There might be some radiation affects but a 10 kiloton bomb would really only wipe out a few miles from the blast sight.
Iran and much of the middle east could survive. Sickness, devastation of ecology, changes in weather but the most dangerous thing would be a dooms day scenario where the other countries go into a mutual destruction. Temperature, wind, rain, etc. would also affect the spread of the radiation.
Chernobyl exclusion zone was only 20 miles and life is already returning there.

 

[Camp]

[

Nobody denies the genius of the Arab scientist/mathematician (name, anyone?) of the Arab who gave us the numbering system. Nobody who ever played chess denies the genius of the inventor of the game.

Nobody denies they were Arabs/Muslims.

.

I do. I deny they were Muslims. I think only an idiot would believe they were Muslim.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Amazing how the Jews are treating the Palestinians the way the nazis treated the Jews....and the cons are okay with it. But then, the cons treated the Native Americans the same way.

Amazing how the Jews are treating the Palestinians the way the nazis treated the Jews....

Amazing how you can be so stupid and still manage to post here.

BWAH HA HA! Really funny coming from a moron.

That Jewish guy still banging your ex?

 

[Lipush]

Don't mean to sow dissent on here, however, I was just wondering if even one right winger on here would respond to Netanyahu's 180 degree turn from his pre-election "NO TWO STATE solution"...to his latest, "I didn't mean that, really, and Israel does want a peaceful Israeli-Palestine neighborly partnership..."

As a right winger who supported both Bibi's speech before Congress AND his pre-election declaration, do you:

1. Support Bibi's return to sanity
2. Disagree with Bibi's latest conciliatory turn about

You sumed things out totally in your second sentence, with the phrase "pre-election". Anything said pre-election should not be taken seriously, ever, by ANY politician.

It's a common law.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Nat says: But some facts may help.....

I would think that Iran fully knows that ANY nuke dropped in that area of the ME would send a cloud that tantamount to a suicidal wave.
so why is Iran arming itself with nukes....?

Secondly, where exactly it is written that Israel is the only country in that area who can be fully trusted with nuke (Last count Israel has 200 of them)?
so you trust your declared enemies to get nuclear bombs and then suddenly turn into friends....?

Third, unless Israel stops exercising apartheid-like practices against Palestinians and stops bulldozing their houses, this entire mess will never be resolved.
bulldozing houses is done for several logical reasons:
-to counter military insurgencies
-to deter terrorism
-to enforce building codes

_____________________________

Well, the way you pose your retort may sound "logical" but logic is not always that simple......

Iran is just as afraqid of Israel as the other way around....Like our own cold war where we finally realized that the theory of MADD was true, Iran seems to want the parity of nuclear armaments that Isarel now possesses. No doubt this distrust has been fueled by idiots like Ahmadinejad and a few other psychopathic Iranians, but the vast majority of that Persian population is fully aware that they want the same things that decent human beings want.

Regarding the "bulldozing" of Palestinian homes....you neglected to state that once such a home is bulldozed (not for punishment or deterrent) and an Israeli settler takes over the now empty lot, such cannot be easily tolerated.

is Iran's so-called 'fear' causing them to terrorize the Middle East.....? to claim they will destroy 'Little Satan' as well as 'Big Satan'...? for being such a 'fearful' country they are putting up quite a contentious front....why aren't the leaders of the people of Iran wanting peace and good relations with others....i.e. the same things that decent human beings want....?

you forget that many israeli single family homes were also razed in order to build Palestinian apartment buildings...

 

[hangover]

Who ever uses nukes will cease to exist, whether it's Iran, Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia, China or the U.S.. In fact, if one goes off, they all will. It's called retaliation. And the only ones that want the world to end is the right wing evangelical nut jobs.

 

[Lipush]

Amazing how the Jews are treating the Palestinians the way the nazis treated the Jews....and the cons are okay with it. But then, the cons treated the Native Americans the same way.

Amazing how the ones repeating that stupid mantra are always the one with not even the slightest idea of what's really going on in the MidEast.

 

[Lipush]

As a former member of the Great Right Wing Conspiracy (to diminish William Jefferson Clinton), I see that he has backed off from the "NO PALESTINIAN STATE AS LONG AS I'M PM!" posture.

But the bottom line is this: He has always been supportive of initiatives and conduct that make the two-state solution impossible. The constant adding of Israeli residential construction in the "occupied territories" are "Fcuk You's" to the Palestinians, and they know it. His strident tone makes it clear that he sees the indigenous Arabs as nothing more than troublesome livestock.

On the other side, there is no real representative of the Other Side, even if Israel were willing to negotiate terms of a lasting peace. The leader of Fatah has far exceeded the term for which he was elected, and he doesn't speak for anyone but himself. And nobody will negotiate anything with Hamas, even if they had a representative who could claim legitimate authority.

There will be no Palestinian state as long as Bibi is prime minister and whether he says it out loud or not, that is the fact. But a U.S. President with balls and creativity could work with the UN to impose a "solution" regardless of what he personally would accept. Who, exactly, should be driving the bus? Not Israel's PM.

Well stated......Prior to Bibi's hard-line stance to both rebuff Obama's negotiations with Iran and a two-state solution with Palestinians, the U.S. has thwarted any sanctions against Israel at the U.N.......However, such may not be the case now that tension between our government and Israel's have deepened.

Even Rabin didn't succeed in peace-making, even during his life. The tention deepend because Obama is either siding with Radical Islam, or if not, he's very unwise.

 

[hangover]

Amazing how the Jews are treating the Palestinians the way the nazis treated the Jews....and the cons are okay with it. But then, the cons treated the Native Americans the same way.

Amazing how the Jews are treating the Palestinians the way the nazis treated the Jews....

Amazing how you can be so stupid and still manage to post here.

BWAH HA HA! Really funny coming from a moron.

That Jewish guy still banging your ex?

Okay, we all know you're a moron, quit bragging about it.