For all the justified focus on trump's depravity I think we need to identify the real problem.

berg80 said:
As hideous, un-American, bigoted, ignorant, untruthful, and hateful as trump is, and as appropriate as it is to point it out, there is no trump without The Following.

He'd be the equivalent of a barstool crank without them.

It will be a tremendous blow to trumpery if he loses next week, and a boon for the country.

But the hatred, intolerance, and xenophobia he has animated, and given voice to among his base, will not be vanquished in one election. His defeat, should it happen, will not stop RWM from spreading harmful misinformation The Following eagerly absorbs.

I do not believe there will be another trump in my lifetime or the lifetime's of my kids. So The Following's animus will not be channeled in support of a demagogue as it is now. Yet it will remain. Stoked by others desirous of taking Don's place. Finding a way to calm it needs to be a priority or it will continue to consume the country. It is the enemy within.
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Don't worry in 2028 you will be comparing the Republican Canidate to Trump, or claiming he is even worse.

You ***** just can't help yourselves.
 
theHawk said:
In other words the “real problem” are Americans who don’t buy into the lies of the left, as well as the RINO neocons.
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The real problem is that you buy lies like trump won the election, all his critics within the former GOP are traitors, and his promises of retribution are justified. Your view of reality is twisted in knots by lies.
 
Mashmont said:
He SHOULD prosecute deep state leftwing criminals who have perverted and misused government agencies for political purposes. America applauds him for that.
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America does nothing of the sort. Americans recoil at the notion of the kinds of prosecutions trump is promising as do all people who respect the rule of law.
 
berg80 said:
You've just described what trump does. Trying to turn us against each other.
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And you don’t think that labeling those of us who want Trump to win as “The Following” is divisive? Or labeling the 20,000 supporters in MSG as Nazis turning people against them?
 
Billiejeens said:
The best that you have is to call it the "following"

I'm sure that you believe that to be clever.
That was a really good show that has no relevance to today's politics.

Politics works on a pendulum.
Back and forth -
Democrat versus Republican.

You guys went full bore lunatic Fringe this time.
The pendulum will swing more quickly than usual and farther than usual.


See Newtons third law.
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Yes, and it won’t swing back 4 years from now, given the hate, vitriol, nonsense, and damage perpetrated by the Left. Very good odds we have 12 years of sanity ahead of us: Trump, 4; Vance, 8.
 
Lisa558 said:
And you don’t think that labeling those of us who want Trump to win as “The Following” is divisive? Or labeling the 20,000 supporters in MSG as Nazis turning people against them?
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Do you really think my posts on a message board should be compared with the reach trump has?
 
Mashmont said:
The hate and division was really kicked into high gear by 0bama. The left actively encourages it.
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That's just a fantasy based on hatred of the black guy in the WH.
 
berg80 said:
Do you really think my posts on a message board should be compared with the reach trump has?
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Just pointing out the hypocrisy on the Left. And it’s not just you - it’s legions of brainwashed leftists screaming about Hitler and his Nazi supporters.
 
berg80 said:
As hideous, un-American, bigoted, ignorant, untruthful, and hateful as trump is, and as appropriate as it is to point it out, there is no trump without The Following.

He'd be the equivalent of a barstool crank without them.

It will be a tremendous blow to trumpery if he loses next week, and a boon for the country.

But the hatred, intolerance, and xenophobia he has animated, and given voice to among his base, will not be vanquished in one election. His defeat, should it happen, will not stop RWM from spreading harmful misinformation The Following eagerly absorbs.

I do not believe there will be another trump in my lifetime or the lifetime's of my kids. So The Following's animus will not be channeled in support of a demagogue as it is now. Yet it will remain. Stoked by others desirous of taking Don's place. Finding a way to calm it needs to be a priority or it will continue to consume the country. It is the enemy within.
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The real problem? Your candidate SUCKS! She was a DEI choice and when you live by the sword then you'll die by the sword! There is a reason why we have primaries. It's to weed out terrible candidates like Harris. That's why she didn't make it to Iowa when she ran for President in 2020!

You need to smear Trump with all of this Hitler fascist nonsense because you can't attack his policies and Kamala doesn't HAVE any! Live and learn...
 
berg80 said:
As hideous, un-American, bigoted, ignorant, untruthful, and hateful as trump is, and as appropriate as it is to point it out, there is no trump without The Following.

He'd be the equivalent of a barstool crank without them.

It will be a tremendous blow to trumpery if he loses next week, and a boon for the country.

But the hatred, intolerance, and xenophobia he has animated, and given voice to among his base, will not be vanquished in one election. His defeat, should it happen, will not stop RWM from spreading harmful misinformation The Following eagerly absorbs.

I do not believe there will be another trump in my lifetime or the lifetime's of my kids. So The Following's animus will not be channeled in support of a demagogue as it is now. Yet it will remain. Stoked by others desirous of taking Don's place. Finding a way to calm it needs to be a priority or it will continue to consume the country. It is the enemy within.
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♨️GASLIGHT ALERT♨️
 
berg80 said:
America does nothing of the sort. Americans recoil at the notion of the kinds of prosecutions trump is promising as do all people who respect the rule of law.
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They definitely recoiled from the lawfare that has been conducted against President Trump and anyone that publicly supported him.

Big strategic error on your part.
 
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Lisa558 said:
It was hardly a racist rally.

And ironically, you’re proving my point as to how the Left is dividing us by villainizing people who dare to choose Trump over the unqualified Harris.
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And there has been no backlash.
 
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