Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[Silhouette]

Moving on and remember post #2092

The ultimate sin of blasphemy would be submitting the Bible to redaction by the hand of man. The ultimate sin with regard to this topic would be to force Christians (or Christians submitting actively or passively to that force) to rewrite the terms of Jude 1 and instead incorporate a sin into "a held value". THAT is the abstract core of Jude 1 that gets you eternity in the slammer. The ultimate blasphemy: redacting the Holy Words without Permission (and that's a capital "P").

All Christians are sinners. They come to that faith with that as the requirement. That requirement never leaves them; or very rarely. You may have heard of saints? They are the uber-rare exception to the immense-rule.

The rest of them are sinners...ALL of them! Their sin however does not submit the Christian New Testament to democratic revision. There is no power of redaction via numbers. In the New Testament there are prescriptions of all types for this type of sinful behavior and that type of sinful behavior. Homosexuals are no different. Christians are urged to reach out to them with compassion "making a difference".

Venial sins vs mortal sins are what's being discussed particularly with respect to so-called "gay marriage". Being a homosexual is a venial sin; its mendable, forgivable, deserving of tolerance and compassion. HOWEVER, enabling a homosexual to call what he does "normal" or to spread that idea to others, particularly an entire culture or settlement of people is UNFORGIVABLE. The prescription for that is the eternal death in the pit of fire.

You cannot ask a Christian to do that. You cannot mandate a Christian to do that. There is no mitigation for that transgression. And that is because a homosexual cultural value replaces normal values and from there the bastardization of the New Testament Teachings becomes indelible. It would be like saying "lying is the new vogue, incorporate lying into the fabric, the hub (marriage=equivalent) of human society" instead of "lying is a sin, extend compassion to the liars and bring them to the fold".

 

[mdk]

So in order to avoid this "sin" of yours, you'll lie? Got it. Really Jesus, stop crying, we know they have nothing to do with you, nothing at all.

And little one, there is only one unforgivable sin, Blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Look it up.

As you know, I don't lie about homosexuality. You are heavily engaged in lying about it. I am not. And that's what pisses you off about me.

Now I have heard everything. You lie about gays as effortlessly as I breath.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So in order to avoid this "sin" of yours, you'll lie? Got it. Really Jesus, stop crying, we know they have nothing to do with you, nothing at all.

And little one, there is only one unforgivable sin, Blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Look it up.

As you know, I don't lie about homosexuality. You are heavily engaged in lying about it. I am not. And that's what pisses you off about me.

Now I have heard everything. You lie about gays as effortlessly as I breath.

You got that right but hey, she's a Christian so lying is okay.

 

[JFK_USA]

""The attorney general's targeting of Barronelle was unprecedented," Waggoner said. "He has had 18 months to end the threat to our client's freedom and livelihood. It is interesting that this offer only materialized after his crusade to ruin this 70-year-old grandmother was exposed nationally."

Florist Who Refused to Do Flowers for Gay Wedding to Appeal - ABC News

There are a lot of very bigoted Leftist attorneys general across the country, the Duke Lacrosse scandal being a good example. Most attorneys general use prosecutorial discretion to avoid witch hunts and the application of the law where no real harm was done. But then there is a special kind of asshole who uses every power of their office to crucify people they consider to be ideological foes. This is one of them.

No real harm? The gay couple was humiliated and degraded because of the relationship they engage in. Harm does not have to be physical.

Right. They were immediately seen by someone else. They are real martyrs alright.

They still were discriminated by the Florist and they suffered damages from that interaction. That's the law buddy.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Moving on and remember post #2092

The ultimate sin of blasphemy would be submitting the Bible to redaction by the hand of man. The ultimate sin with regard to this topic would be to force Christians (or Christians submitting actively or passively to that force) to rewrite the terms of Jude 1 and instead incorporate a sin into "a held value". THAT is the abstract core of Jude 1 that gets you eternity in the slammer. The ultimate blasphemy: redacting the Holy Words without Permission (and that's a capital "P").

All Christians are sinners. They come to that faith with that as the requirement. That requirement never leaves them; or very rarely. You may have heard of saints? They are the uber-rare exception to the immense-rule.

The rest of them are sinners...ALL of them! Their sin however does not submit the Christian New Testament to democratic revision. There is no power of redaction via numbers. In the New Testament there are prescriptions of all types for this type of sinful behavior and that type of sinful behavior. Homosexuals are no different. Christians are urged to reach out to them with compassion "making a difference".

Venial sins vs mortal sins are what's being discussed particularly with respect to so-called "gay marriage". Being a homosexual is a venial sin; its mendable, forgivable, deserving of tolerance and compassion. HOWEVER, enabling a homosexual to call what he does "normal" or to spread that idea to others, particularly an entire culture or settlement of people is UNFORGIVABLE. The prescription for that is the eternal death in the pit of fire.

You cannot ask a Christian to do that. You cannot mandate a Christian to do that. There is no mitigation for that transgression. And that is because a homosexual cultural value replaces normal values and from there the bastardization of the New Testament Teachings becomes indelible. It would be like saying "lying is the new vogue, incorporate lying into the fabric, the hub (marriage=equivalent) of human society" instead of "lying is a sin, extend compassion to the liars and bring them to the fold".

So in order to avoid this "sin" of yours, you'll lie? Got it. Really Jesus, stop crying, we know they have nothing to do with you, nothing at all.

And little one, there is only one unforgivable sin, Blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Look it up.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

So you acknowledge it to be a made-up story.

I didn't say that at all.

Stop lying, Leftists!

Oh, so lying is an issue for you now? Since when, the last 8 seconds?

I never misquote anyone. Perhaps you don't understand so let me put it this way...you Leftists lied up and down about Obamacare because you thought it was justified in order to pass a law that you felt America needed. EVERYONE feels that some lies are justified, even lying hypocrites like you.

I see, so it's okay for the Christians to lie, even though it's forbidden, because everyone else who isn't a Christian does it. Tell us, is it okay for a Christian to sleep around on their spouse, you know, because everyone else does it? How about taking a few office supplies from work home? Everybody does it right?

I'm not having this conversation with you. You aren't a Christian and this is an in house discussion. None of your business.

Goodbye.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

""The attorney general's targeting of Barronelle was unprecedented," Waggoner said. "He has had 18 months to end the threat to our client's freedom and livelihood. It is interesting that this offer only materialized after his crusade to ruin this 70-year-old grandmother was exposed nationally."

Florist Who Refused to Do Flowers for Gay Wedding to Appeal - ABC News

There are a lot of very bigoted Leftist attorneys general across the country, the Duke Lacrosse scandal being a good example. Most attorneys general use prosecutorial discretion to avoid witch hunts and the application of the law where no real harm was done. But then there is a special kind of asshole who uses every power of their office to crucify people they consider to be ideological foes. This is one of them.

No real harm? The gay couple was humiliated and degraded because of the relationship they engage in. Harm does not have to be physical.

Right. They were immediately seen by someone else. They are real martyrs alright.

They still were discriminated by the Florist and they suffered damages from that interaction. That's the law buddy.

What damage did they suffer? They had to go to another florist? They targeted this florist intentionally. Only on the immoral Lefts is the aggressor turned into a "victim".

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So you acknowledge it to be a made-up story.

I didn't say that at all.

Stop lying, Leftists!

Oh, so lying is an issue for you now? Since when, the last 8 seconds?

I never misquote anyone. Perhaps you don't understand so let me put it this way...you Leftists lied up and down about Obamacare because you thought it was justified in order to pass a law that you felt America needed. EVERYONE feels that some lies are justified, even lying hypocrites like you.

I see, so it's okay for the Christians to lie, even though it's forbidden, because everyone else who isn't a Christian does it. Tell us, is it okay for a Christian to sleep around on their spouse, you know, because everyone else does it? How about taking a few office supplies from work home? Everybody does it right?

I'm not having this conversation with you. You aren't a Christian and this is an in house discussion. None of your business.

Goodbye.

Really, is that what you mean, or are you just lying again? Want me to post the other nine commandments so you can tell us all how the Christians can break those as well?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

""The attorney general's targeting of Barronelle was unprecedented," Waggoner said. "He has had 18 months to end the threat to our client's freedom and livelihood. It is interesting that this offer only materialized after his crusade to ruin this 70-year-old grandmother was exposed nationally."

Florist Who Refused to Do Flowers for Gay Wedding to Appeal - ABC News

There are a lot of very bigoted Leftist attorneys general across the country, the Duke Lacrosse scandal being a good example. Most attorneys general use prosecutorial discretion to avoid witch hunts and the application of the law where no real harm was done. But then there is a special kind of asshole who uses every power of their office to crucify people they consider to be ideological foes. This is one of them.

No real harm? The gay couple was humiliated and degraded because of the relationship they engage in. Harm does not have to be physical.

Right. They were immediately seen by someone else. They are real martyrs alright.

They still were discriminated by the Florist and they suffered damages from that interaction. That's the law buddy.

What damage did they suffer? They had to go to another florist? They targeted this florist intentionally. Only on the immoral Lefts is the aggressor turned into a "victim".

Yeah, they went there for nine years, and then targeted her. No wonder you think Christians are allowed to lie, you're really good at it.

 

[Silhouette]

I think that post #2101 sums up why the East sees us as the infidels. It's because we seem very willing and rapidly so of late, to completely chowder core values of our society as if we were taking off an old pair of good work overalls and swapping them for yoga pants. It's the ease and the speed with which Americans are abandoning key moral principles...oh, and while being the most heavily armed nation conventionally and with nukes on the planet.

If you have even a modicum of ability to put yourself behind the eyes of an objective onlooker, you would see that even the most tolerant of perspectives might see this runaway freight train here as a huge global threat. Sure, right now we're keeping a lid on the simmering pasta pot of hedonism, but as with any pot at that threshold, it stands ready to overboil the minute you turn your back.

We must not argue to redact basic values of decency. Men using other men's anuses as pretend vaginas is not a decent or right or moral or sane thing to do. Neither is overeating where you weigh 300lbs or more. Neither is rolling in opulence while your neighbors house falls apart and their kids go hungry. Neither is violently beheadding people. Neither is ...well...you all know instinctively what is right or wrong. Or you should. And if you don't it's because the core of your society has gone rotten and there's no more frame of reference for you to see what is right or wrong.

And hence the unforgivable, unmitigatable and permanent sin of incorporating homosexuality as "the core of society's values" (via marriage, the core of society's values)..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I think that post #2101 sums up why the East sees us as the infidels. It's because we seem very willing and rapidly so of late, to completely chowder core values of our society as if we were taking off an old pair of good work overalls and swapping them for yoga pants. It's the ease and the speed with which Americans are abandoning key moral principles...oh, and while being the most heavily armed nation conventionally and with nukes on the planet.

If you have even a modicum of ability to put yourself behind the eyes of an objective onlooker, you would see that even the most tolerant of perspectives might see this runaway freight train here as a huge global threat. Sure, right now we're keeping a lid on the simmering pasta pot of hedonism, but as with any pot at that threshold, it stands ready to overboil the minute you turn your back.

We must not argue to redact basic values of decency. Men using other men's anuses as pretend vaginas is not a decent or right or moral or sane thing to do. Neither is overeating where you weigh 300lbs or more. Neither is rolling in opulence while your neighbors house falls apart and their kids go hungry. Neither is violently beheadding people. Neither is ...well...you all know instinctively what is right or wrong. Or you should. And if you don't it's because the core of your society has gone rotten and there's no more frame of reference for you to see what is right or wrong.

And hence the sin of incorporating homosexuality as "the core of society's values" (via marriage, the core of society's values)..

Homosexuality = bad, lying = good. Got it.

 

[bodecea]

Lying doesn't work. It's being creative with the truth.

If someone asked me if I painted commissioned work I would truthfully say that I do not solicit commissions nor advertise that I am available for commissions.

All true.

But it may become necessary to lie and that's ok too. Like I said, let's see them prove that the cake artist's hand doesn't hurt. You can also keep the requisite supplies intentionally limited so as to claim credibly that you don't have it on hand.

The larger point is we Christians have had to operate underground before when persecution was rampant. And anyone who has lived through such times, like in WW2 Europe, knows that survival means deceiving the powers that be. As we approach the last days, and we are, things will swing full circle, as prophesied, nobody could buy or sell without the mark of perdition. What's happening right now is just the beginning and we need more survivors and fewer martyrs.

If you have to lie to have your faith, don't bother. And if you believe lying is allowed, don't call yourself a Christian since you aren't one.

You forget yourself. You are neither a Christian nor in ANY position to decide who is and what standards Christians must abide by. You done bumped your head, boy.

Maybe you should look up what Bearing False Witness means? It means lying, which is not allowed in your faith but to you that's perfectly fine. You're an insult to any actual Christian, and especially to Jesus.

It's one of the Big Ten....you know, the ones that so many want to put in courthouses and schools.

 

[Silhouette]

I think that post #2101 sums up why the East sees us as the infidels. It's because we seem very willing and rapidly so of late, to completely chowder core values of our society as if we were taking off an old pair of good work overalls and swapping them for yoga pants. It's the ease and the speed with which Americans are abandoning key moral principles...oh, and while being the most heavily armed nation conventionally and with nukes on the planet.

If you have even a modicum of ability to put yourself behind the eyes of an objective onlooker, you would see that even the most tolerant of perspectives might see this runaway freight train here as a huge global threat. Sure, right now we're keeping a lid on the simmering pasta pot of hedonism, but as with any pot at that threshold, it stands ready to overboil the minute you turn your back.

We must not argue to redact basic values of decency. Men using other men's anuses as pretend vaginas is not a decent or right or moral or sane thing to do. Neither is overeating where you weigh 300lbs or more. Neither is rolling in opulence while your neighbors house falls apart and their kids go hungry. Neither is violently beheadding people. Neither is ...well...you all know instinctively what is right or wrong. Or you should. And if you don't it's because the core of your society has gone rotten and there's no more frame of reference for you to see what is right or wrong.

And hence the unforgivable, unmitigatable and permanent sin of incorporating homosexuality as "the core of society's values" (via marriage, the core of society's values)..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Lying doesn't work. It's being creative with the truth.

If someone asked me if I painted commissioned work I would truthfully say that I do not solicit commissions nor advertise that I am available for commissions.

All true.

But it may become necessary to lie and that's ok too. Like I said, let's see them prove that the cake artist's hand doesn't hurt. You can also keep the requisite supplies intentionally limited so as to claim credibly that you don't have it on hand.

The larger point is we Christians have had to operate underground before when persecution was rampant. And anyone who has lived through such times, like in WW2 Europe, knows that survival means deceiving the powers that be. As we approach the last days, and we are, things will swing full circle, as prophesied, nobody could buy or sell without the mark of perdition. What's happening right now is just the beginning and we need more survivors and fewer martyrs.

If you have to lie to have your faith, don't bother. And if you believe lying is allowed, don't call yourself a Christian since you aren't one.

You forget yourself. You are neither a Christian nor in ANY position to decide who is and what standards Christians must abide by. You done bumped your head, boy.

Maybe you should look up what Bearing False Witness means? It means lying, which is not allowed in your faith but to you that's perfectly fine. You're an insult to any actual Christian, and especially to Jesus.

It's one of the Big Ten....you know, the ones that so many want to put in courthouses and schools.

Yeah, but see, they don't really matter, not if you're trying to keep some faggots from having a cake and flowers for their wedding. Then all bets are off. You can just lie all damn day about it because Jesus doesn't want you baking that cake, it's a sin.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I think that post #2101 sums up why the East sees us as the infidels. It's because we seem very willing and rapidly so of late, to completely chowder core values of our society as if we were taking off an old pair of good work overalls and swapping them for yoga pants. It's the ease and the speed with which Americans are abandoning key moral principles...oh, and while being the most heavily armed nation conventionally and with nukes on the planet.

If you have even a modicum of ability to put yourself behind the eyes of an objective onlooker, you would see that even the most tolerant of perspectives might see this runaway freight train here as a huge global threat. Sure, right now we're keeping a lid on the simmering pasta pot of hedonism, but as with any pot at that threshold, it stands ready to overboil the minute you turn your back.

We must not argue to redact basic values of decency. Men using other men's anuses as pretend vaginas is not a decent or right or moral or sane thing to do. Neither is overeating where you weigh 300lbs or more. Neither is rolling in opulence while your neighbors house falls apart and their kids go hungry. Neither is violently beheadding people. Neither is ...well...you all know instinctively what is right or wrong. Or you should. And if you don't it's because the core of your society has gone rotten and there's no more frame of reference for you to see what is right or wrong.

And hence the unforgivable, unmitigatable and permanent sin of incorporating homosexuality as "the core of society's values" (via marriage, the core of society's values)..

Spam...

 

[Silhouette]

Writing the word "spam" on a post and nothing more is the ultimate spam. And you would know, since you and your tag team friends employ more spam than the state of Hawaii..

(Spam prevention, post 2101 again)

The ultimate sin of blasphemy would be submitting the Bible to redaction by the hand of man. The ultimate sin with regard to this topic would be to force Christians (or Christians submitting actively or passively to that force) to rewrite the terms of Jude 1 and instead incorporate a sin into "a held value". THAT is the abstract core of Jude 1 that gets you eternity in the slammer. The ultimate blasphemy: redacting the Holy Words without Permission (and that's a capital "P").

All Christians are sinners. They come to that faith with that as the requirement. That requirement never leaves them; or very rarely. You may have heard of saints? They are the uber-rare exception to the immense-rule.

The rest of them are sinners...ALL of them! Their sin however does not submit the Christian New Testament to democratic revision. There is no power of redaction via numbers. In the New Testament there are prescriptions of all types for this type of sinful behavior and that type of sinful behavior. Homosexuals are no different. Christians are urged to reach out to them with compassion "making a difference".

Venial sins vs mortal sins are what's being discussed particularly with respect to so-called "gay marriage". Being a homosexual is a venial sin; its mendable, forgivable, deserving of tolerance and compassion. HOWEVER, enabling a homosexual to call what he does "normal" or to spread that idea to others, particularly an entire culture or settlement of people is UNFORGIVABLE. The prescription for that is the eternal death in the pit of fire.

You cannot ask a Christian to do that. You cannot mandate a Christian to do that. There is no mitigation for that transgression. And that is because a homosexual cultural value replaces normal values and from there the bastardization of the New Testament Teachings becomes indelible. It would be like saying "lying is the new vogue, incorporate lying into the fabric, the hub (marriage=equivalent) of human society" instead of "lying is a sin, extend compassion to the liars and bring them to the fold".

I'll knock off reposting the points of mine you and your friends purposefully bury, precisely five minutes after you and your friends quit spamming. And not a moment before.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The ultimate sin of blasphemy would be submitting the Bible to redaction by the hand of man. The ultimate sin with regard to this topic would be to force Christians (or Christians submitting actively or passively to that force) to rewrite the terms of Jude 1 and instead incorporate a sin into "a held value". THAT is the abstract core of Jude 1 that gets you eternity in the slammer. The ultimate blasphemy: redacting the Holy Words without Permission (and that's a capital "P").

All Christians are sinners. They come to that faith with that as the requirement. That requirement never leaves them; or very rarely. You may have heard of saints? They are the uber-rare exception to the immense-rule.

The rest of them are sinners...ALL of them! Their sin however does not submit the Christian New Testament to democratic revision. There is no power of redaction via numbers. In the New Testament there are prescriptions of all types for this type of sinful behavior and that type of sinful behavior. Homosexuals are no different. Christians are urged to reach out to them with compassion "making a difference".

Venial sins vs mortal sins are what's being discussed particularly with respect to so-called "gay marriage". Being a homosexual is a venial sin; its mendable, forgivable, deserving of tolerance and compassion. HOWEVER, enabling a homosexual to call what he does "normal" or to spread that idea to others, particularly an entire culture or settlement of people is UNFORGIVABLE. The prescription for that is the eternal death in the pit of fire.

You cannot ask a Christian to do that. You cannot mandate a Christian to do that. There is no mitigation for that transgression. And that is because a homosexual cultural value replaces normal values and from there the bastardization of the New Testament Teachings becomes indelible. It would be like saying "lying is the new vogue, incorporate lying into the fabric, the hub (marriage=equivalent) of human society" instead of "lying is a sin, extend compassion to the liars and bring them to the fold".

Spam and knock it off.

 

[mdk]

Writing the word "spam" on a post and nothing more is the ultimate spam. And you would know, since you and your tag team friends employ more spam than the state of Hawaii..

The ultimate sin of blasphemy would be submitting the Bible to redaction by the hand of man. The ultimate sin with regard to this topic would be to force Christians (or Christians submitting actively or passively to that force) to rewrite the terms of Jude 1 and instead incorporate a sin into "a held value". THAT is the abstract core of Jude 1 that gets you eternity in the slammer. The ultimate blasphemy: redacting the Holy Words without Permission (and that's a capital "P").

All Christians are sinners. They come to that faith with that as the requirement. That requirement never leaves them; or very rarely. You may have heard of saints? They are the uber-rare exception to the immense-rule.

The rest of them are sinners...ALL of them! Their sin however does not submit the Christian New Testament to democratic revision. There is no power of redaction via numbers. In the New Testament there are prescriptions of all types for this type of sinful behavior and that type of sinful behavior. Homosexuals are no different. Christians are urged to reach out to them with compassion "making a difference".

Venial sins vs mortal sins are what's being discussed particularly with respect to so-called "gay marriage". Being a homosexual is a venial sin; its mendable, forgivable, deserving of tolerance and compassion. HOWEVER, enabling a homosexual to call what he does "normal" or to spread that idea to others, particularly an entire culture or settlement of people is UNFORGIVABLE. The prescription for that is the eternal death in the pit of fire.

You cannot ask a Christian to do that. You cannot mandate a Christian to do that. There is no mitigation for that transgression. And that is because a homosexual cultural value replaces normal values and from there the bastardization of the New Testament Teachings becomes indelible. It would be like saying "lying is the new vogue, incorporate lying into the fabric, the hub (marriage=equivalent) of human society" instead of "lying is a sin, extend compassion to the liars and bring them to the fold".

Is this going to be your spam du jour?

 

[koshergrl]

""The attorney general's targeting of Barronelle was unprecedented," Waggoner said. "He has had 18 months to end the threat to our client's freedom and livelihood. It is interesting that this offer only materialized after his crusade to ruin this 70-year-old grandmother was exposed nationally."

Florist Who Refused to Do Flowers for Gay Wedding to Appeal - ABC News

There are a lot of very bigoted Leftist attorneys general across the country, the Duke Lacrosse scandal being a good example. Most attorneys general use prosecutorial discretion to avoid witch hunts and the application of the law where no real harm was done. But then there is a special kind of asshole who uses every power of their office to crucify people they consider to be ideological foes. This is one of them.

And if you read the wording of the attorney's statements..it's very much a power trip.

 

[koshergrl]

""The attorney general's targeting of Barronelle was unprecedented," Waggoner said. "He has had 18 months to end the threat to our client's freedom and livelihood. It is interesting that this offer only materialized after his crusade to ruin this 70-year-old grandmother was exposed nationally."

Florist Who Refused to Do Flowers for Gay Wedding to Appeal - ABC News

There are a lot of very bigoted Leftist attorneys general across the country, the Duke Lacrosse scandal being a good example. Most attorneys general use prosecutorial discretion to avoid witch hunts and the application of the law where no real harm was done. But then there is a special kind of asshole who uses every power of their office to crucify people they consider to be ideological foes. This is one of them.

No real harm? The gay couple was humiliated and degraded because of the relationship they engage in. Harm does not have to be physical.

No they weren't anything of the sort. They didn't even file a complaint. So shut the **** up about things you haven't bothered to read about.