Florida becomes first state to end all vaccine mandates

[Averies]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/politics/florida-gop-end-vaccine-mandates

Even as US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ramped up a hostile takeover of federal vaccine policy, Florida on Wednesday took an unprecedented step: It became the first state to move to eliminate all vaccine requirements.

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

 

[Zincwarrior]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/politics/florida-gop-end-vaccine-mandates

Even as US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ramped up a hostile takeover of federal vaccine policy, Florida on Wednesday took an unprecedented step: It became the first state to move to eliminate all vaccine requirements.

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

Excellent. We need to cleanse the gene pool of mouth breathers.

 

[pknopp]

I hear Desantis and Kennedy are going to run in 2028 on the platform Bring Back Polio.

 

[jknowgood]

Excellent. We need to cleanse the gene pool of mouth breathers.

Lol, you're pumping yourself with experimental drugs. Keep it up!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/politics/florida-gop-end-vaccine-mandates

Even as US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ramped up a hostile takeover of federal vaccine policy, Florida on Wednesday took an unprecedented step: It became the first state to move to eliminate all vaccine requirements.

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

States set the policy for children's vaccines, not the federal government. They can only recommend.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/politics/florida-gop-end-vaccine-mandates

Even as US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ramped up a hostile takeover of federal vaccine policy, Florida on Wednesday took an unprecedented step: It became the first state to move to eliminate all vaccine requirements.

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

Oh my God Millions will die
Kids probably need four five vaccines tops that's it
And vaccines for something like measles is ridiculous

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

How does it put anyone in danger? Vaccines impact the individual. This doesn’t prohibit vaccines. It only prohibits their being mandatory. Big difference. Freedom prevails.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Lol, you're pumping yourself with experimental drugs. Keep it up!

The polio vaccine is an experimental drug?

 

[martybegan]

The polio vaccine is an experimental drug?

The mRNA vaccines were, and the medical community lost their trustworthiness over them.

I think this is a bad idea, but as usual backlashes sometimes go too far. I want to see what impact this actually has on vaccine rates, as there will still be recommended vaccines listed.

 

[Rogue AI]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/politics/florida-gop-end-vaccine-mandates

Even as US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ramped up a hostile takeover of federal vaccine policy, Florida on Wednesday took an unprecedented step: It became the first state to move to eliminate all vaccine requirements.

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

Seems a logical choice to eliminate mandates on 'vaccines' if it includes experimental treatments and who knows what else. Since the CDC abandoned science for politics during covid, they have zero credibility on the issue. The states are better suited to decide for themselves.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The states are better suited to decide for themselves.

Well its literally their funeral.

 

[Rogue AI]

Well its literally their funeral.

Not likely. It isn't as though the state banned vaccines and experimental treatments. It falls to the parents and doctors to decide the best course going forward. Sounds like freedom. Oh, now I get it...

 

[pknopp]

The mRNA vaccines were, and the medical community lost their trustworthiness over them.

And never required in schools.

I think this is a bad idea, but as usual backlashes sometimes go too far. I want to see what impact this actually has on vaccine rates, as there will still be recommended vaccines listed.

Tell that to the kid that gets polio.

 

[CowboyTed]

Lol, you're pumping yourself with experimental drugs. Keep it up!

I don't think the polio vaccine is that experimental any more..

This is pretty braindead stuff that unfortunately is going to cost lives and people living with injuries for the rest of their lives because their parents were brainwashed..

Vaccine mandates are there because real medical professionals (and basic common sense) are looking after the children even after parents heads have been filled with BS...

I will freely admit that putting anything into the human body has risk...Everything is benefit v risk...
Not taking the main vaccines (3 in 1,...) on a risk perspective is like saying I am not breathing because of getting airborne disease

 

[CowboyTed]

States set the policy for children's vaccines, not the federal government. They can only recommend.

Seriously, trying that line...

Trump threatens cutting funding all the time to states that don't do what he wants...

 

[martybegan]

And never required in schools.




Tell that to the kid that gets polio.

It's a simple matter of a loss of trust in institutions.

What I hope they do is strongly recommend the basic ones and still inform student's parents they SHOULD get them.

 

[pknopp]

It's a simple matter of a loss of trust in institutions.

What I hope they do is strongly recommend the basic ones and still inform student's parents they SHOULD get them.

Oddly those who dont "trust institutions" have fallen in line where the federal government is concerned.

 

[CowboyTed]

It's a simple matter of a loss of trust in institutions.

What I hope they do is strongly recommend the basic ones and still inform student's parents they SHOULD get them.

We have to ask who undermined the confidence in vaccines and who promoted those people...

Undermining vaccines is a conspiracy theory that got way out of hand. Anti-vaccine have been given a huge loudspeaker and allowed to continue without scrutiny. They pump bad science continiously. Their theories doesn't hold up when comparing mortality rates.
We have an industry of actuaries (these are some of the best paid and smartest guys around) who spend all day everyday trying to figure out how and when people die. They have models for everything, AIDS, Smoking,... and Vaccines... If they thought Vaccines were harmful they would be very quick telling you...

But even COVID, compare high vaccine rates areas with low vaccine rate areas... Then compare their mortality rates...

Excess Death Rates for Republican and Democratic Voters in Florida and Ohio During the COVID-19 Pandemic

This cross-sectional study examines the differences in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters in Florida and Ohio after the COVID-19 vaccine became available for all adults.

jamanetwork.com

GOP did not have the uptake on the COVID vaccine like Democrats... Vaccine was criticised by some GOP leaders and Trump himself was not always clear on the issue (sat a bit too much on the fence)... Republicans died because of that, this is heartbreaking. They died from disinformation, no accountability, nothing....
They're are more examples..

People in Republican Counties Have Higher Death Rates Than Those in Democratic Counties

A growing mortality gap between Republican and Democratic areas may largely stem from policy choices

www.scientificamerican.com

Internationally we have many more studies too..

Florida was clearly under reporting COVID deaths, are that had much more CDC excess deaths than they were reporting as COVID deaths... What did they die off.. This was massively under reported..

Analysis of Excess Deaths During the COVID-19 Pandemic in the State of Florida - PMC

Objectives. To determine the number of excess deaths (i.e., those exceeding historical trends after accounting for COVID-19 deaths) occurring in Florida during the COVID-19 pandemic. Methods. Using seasonal autoregressive integrated moving average ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[martybegan]

Oddly those who dont "trust institutions" have fallen in line where the federal government is concerned.

When said federal government goes after illegals and criminals.

 

[martybegan]

We have to ask who undermined the confidence in vaccines and who promoted those people...

Undermining vaccines is a conspiracy theory that got way out of hand. Anti-vaccine have been given a huge loudspeaker and allowed to continue without scrutiny. They pump bad science continiously. Their theories doesn't hold up when comparing mortality rates.
We have an industry of actuaries (these are some of the best paid and smartest guys around) who spend all day everyday trying to figure out how and when people die. They have models for everything, AIDS, Smoking,... and Vaccines... If they thought Vaccines were harmful they would be very quick telling you...

But even COVID, compare high vaccine rates areas with low vaccine rate areas... Then compare their mortality rates...

Excess Death Rates for Republican and Democratic Voters in Florida and Ohio During the COVID-19 Pandemic

This cross-sectional study examines the differences in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters in Florida and Ohio after the COVID-19 vaccine became available for all adults.

jamanetwork.com

GOP did not have the uptake on the COVID vaccine like Democrats... Vaccine was criticised by some GOP leaders and Trump himself was not always clear on the issue (sat a bit too much on the fence)... Republicans died because of that, this is heartbreaking. They died from disinformation, no accountability, nothing....
They're are more examples..

People in Republican Counties Have Higher Death Rates Than Those in Democratic Counties

A growing mortality gap between Republican and Democratic areas may largely stem from policy choices

www.scientificamerican.com

Internationally we have many more studies too..

Florida was clearly under reporting COVID deaths, are that had much more CDC excess deaths than they were reporting as COVID deaths... What did they die off.. This was massively under reported..

Analysis of Excess Deaths During the COVID-19 Pandemic in the State of Florida - PMC

Objectives. To determine the number of excess deaths (i.e., those exceeding historical trends after accounting for COVID-19 deaths) occurring in Florida during the COVID-19 pandemic. Methods. Using seasonal autoregressive integrated moving average ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Thank you for giving the best example of why people don't trust institutions anymore. you lead off with lumping everyone who even questions these things as a conspiracy nutter.

The break is when they pretended the mRNA vaccines were the same as traditional ones when it came to known risks and depth of studies showing those risks.


Someone who is 99 years old dies while having COVID, was COVID the only reason they died?