FLASHBACK: Gallup Had Carter Up 4 Points Over Ronald Reagan in September 1980

[mamooth]

The same conservatives here who are predicting a glorious Romney/Ryan debate victory also predicted a glorious McCain/Palin debate victory, using exactly the same delusional "teloprompter" and "gaffe" fantasies. Back in the real world, Obama and Biden will handle Romney/Ryan just as easily as they handled McCain/Palin. Probably more easily, given how helpless both Romney and Ryan are if they have to go off-script.

 

[Full-Auto]

So... it would appear the mutton head odumbo supporters here that think all these "SCIENTIFIC" polls are so damn great, well, guess this just makes them look pretty dumb...



Gallup polling today put Obama ahead of Mitt Romney by 4 points after the godless DNC Convention.

Back in 1980 Gallup had Jimmy Carter up over Ronald Reagan by 4 points in mid to late September… And, Carter was up 8 points in October. In fact there was a published Gallup poll showing Carter up six among likely voters in a poll conducted Oct. 24 to 27.

Ronald Reagan ended up winning by 9 points and taking 44 states.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...4-points-over-ronald-reagan-in-september-1980

I would question any gallup poll stats since obama's DOJ sued them for poll numbers that favored Romney over obama.

That is completely false. The DOJ did not sue Gallup over poll numbers.

They sued over false billing.

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Alleged during a campaign.......

More kool-aid sir?

 

[Liberal]

I smell another one of these:

 

[Katzndogz]

Romney will handle obama the way he handled Newt Gingrich who is, himself, miles above obama. Biden will be Biden and Ryan will demolish him.

The democrats will say that obama and Biden won, no matter what happens. Then the people will vote.

The same thing happened in the Carter Reagan debate. In fact, the most positive thing democrats felt Reagan did was appear on the same stage as the president.

Debating Our Destiny: Reaction to the Carter/Reagan debate -- October 28, 1980

Then the people voted.

 

[JakeStarkey]

BHO is not a shoo in.

Nor is 1980 anyway representative of 2012 either. Obama is not Carter, Romney is not Reagan, and no John Anderson third party is messing up the waters.

This race will be close unless one or the other bombs in the debates, which I don't think will happen.

So... it would appear the mutton head odumbo supporters here that think all these "SCIENTIFIC" polls are so damn great, well, guess this just makes them look pretty dumb...



Gallup polling today put Obama ahead of Mitt Romney by 4 points after the godless DNC Convention.

Back in 1980 Gallup had Jimmy Carter up over Ronald Reagan by 4 points in mid to late September… And, Carter was up 8 points in October. In fact there was a published Gallup poll showing Carter up six among likely voters in a poll conducted Oct. 24 to 27.

Ronald Reagan ended up winning by 9 points and taking 44 states.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...4-points-over-ronald-reagan-in-september-1980

We can only hope history repeats itself this fall and BO loses big just like the the peanut nutty farmer in 1980.

But this time we also need a total repudiation of Liberalism and all its horrific consequences....so that it can't be repeated. Imagine how great America would be if only it would follow conservative/libertarian policies for 50 years, rather than shitty liberalism.

Yup. I remember that well. Carter was supposed to win and Reagan won in a landslide.

Funny how quite a few of the lefties on this board think Barry is a shoe in.

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them.

 

[tjvh]

So... it would appear the mutton head odumbo supporters here that think all these "SCIENTIFIC" polls are so damn great, well, guess this just makes them look pretty dumb...



Gallup polling today put Obama ahead of Mitt Romney by 4 points after the godless DNC Convention.

Back in 1980 Gallup had Jimmy Carter up over Ronald Reagan by 4 points in mid to late September… And, Carter was up 8 points in October. In fact there was a published Gallup poll showing Carter up six among likely voters in a poll conducted Oct. 24 to 27.

Ronald Reagan ended up winning by 9 points and taking 44 states.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...4-points-over-ronald-reagan-in-september-1980

The purpose of polls is not to tell you what's going to happen 2 months from now, they are designed to tell you where things are now,

and they are very good at doing that.

Especially when you bias them by oversampling those who agree with the message you're trying to send.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Anybody that thinks a sitting president that is presiding over 40+ months of record unemployment, $5,000,000,000,000 new debt in three years, low/no GDP, etc. is a shoe in is delusional.

 

[mamooth]

Why do most of the righties here parrot some bizarre revisionist history about how Carter was ahead of Reagan in the polls? The actual polls showed Reagan pulling ahead in late May, and staying ahead from then on.

Also fascinating is how many conservatives "remember" Carter being way ahead in the polls. Conservative memories certainly are funny things. It appears as if they adjust their memories to match whatever our nutty conservative media currently orders them to remember.

What Really Happened in the 1980 Presidential Campaign ? The Monkey Cage

 

[JakeStarkey]

Romney is no Reagan and Obama is no Carter.

No John Anderson is in this race.

Either the far right grows up or it costs Romney the election,

 

[JoeB131]

Why do most of the righties here parrot some bizarre revisionist history about how Carter was ahead of Reagan in the polls? The actual polls showed Reagan pulling ahead in late May, and staying ahead from then on.

Also fascinating is how many conservatives "remember" Carter being way ahead in the polls. Conservative memories certainly are funny things. It appears as if they adjust their memories to match whatever our nutty conservative media currently orders them to remember.

What Really Happened in the 1980 Presidential Campaign ? The Monkey Cage

Great Chart...

But does it take ANderson into account?

 

[U2Edge]

It appears that from an average of polls in 1980, Reagan did maintain a lead. But in the Gallup poll things moved back and forth.

In 2012, amazingly, Obama has survived terrible unemployment rates and has maintained a steady lead in both national polls as well as polls in the key battle ground states since February of this year. There was some tightening in August, but that was busted once the Democrats completed their convention.

But now looking at Gallup's 7 day tracking poll, the race may be starting to tighten. Obama was out to 7 point lead in that poll about a week ago, but as of today that lead is down to 3. RCP average of polls gives him a 3.1 lead.

The tough thing for Romney is that inspite of more Electoral College votes moving to read states because of population growth, the Electoral College is actually still set up in Obama's favor. If Obama just wins John Kerry's blue states from 2004, plus just 3 more states, Iowa, New Mexico, and Virginia for example, he wins the election.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Romney won the popular vote but lost in the electoral college.

 

[JoeB131]

Romney is no Reagan and Obama is no Carter.

No John Anderson is in this race.

Either the far right grows up or it costs Romney the election,

Guy, Romney is well past the point of confronting the far right or getting it to behave at this point. That should have been done months ago. Instead he appeased it in every way.

Either the economy is bad enough to put Romney over the top or it isn't.

 

[U2Edge]

Another thing I forgot. The election will have to be really close, much closer than most people think for the Debates to have any impact. I don't think Obama or Romney are superstars in that format and I simply see their negatives and positives in the debates cancelling each other out meaning the debates will have no significant impact on the election.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Use RCP if you want to be real about this.

It appears that from an average of polls in 1980, Reagan did maintain a lead. But in the Gallup poll things moved back and forth.

In 2012, amazingly, Obama has survived terrible unemployment rates and has maintained a steady lead in both national polls as well as polls in the key battle ground states since February of this year. There was some tightening in August, but that was busted once the Democrats completed their convention.

But now looking at Gallup's 7 day tracking poll, the race may be starting to tighten. Obama was out to 7 point lead in that poll about a week ago, but as of today that lead is down to 3. RCP average of polls gives him a 3.1 lead.

The tough thing for Romney is that inspite of more Electoral College votes moving to read states because of population growth, the Electoral College is actually still set up in Obama's favor. If Obama just wins John Kerry's blue states from 2004, plus just 3 more states, Iowa, New Mexico, and Virginia for example, he wins the election.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Romney won the popular vote but lost in the electoral college.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Romney is no Reagan and Obama is no Carter.

No John Anderson is in this race.

Either the far right grows up or it costs Romney the election,

Guy, Romney is well past the point of confronting the far right or getting it to behave at this point. That should have been done months ago. Instead he appeased it in every way.

Either the economy is bad enough to put Romney over the top or it isn't.

Romney will toe the line of the right he will not allowed to do as obama has done, he will be a one term president if he does.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Romney will not toe the far right, so that is why you guys are acting crazy here, letting Romney know that you will defeat him.

What is happening is that you are guaranteeing an Obama re-election, and he has said he will mess up the GOP.

Is that what you want?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Romney will not toe the far right, so that is why you guys are acting crazy here, letting Romney know that you will defeat him.

What is happening is that you are guaranteeing an Obama re-election, and he has said he will mess up the GOP.

Is that what you want?

He will not be allowed to be obama 2nd term and George bush 4th term.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thank you for admitting you will defeat Romney if he will not play to the crazee right.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Thank you for admitting you will defeat Romney if he will not play to the crazee right.

Romney will not be allowed to be another obama or George Bush sorry he will be held on a tight right reign

 

[JakeStarkey]

When he is elected, he will destroy the crazee right.

I am glad you have removed the mask so we can see how crazee you guys are.