Apparently this guy is a pretty lousy doctor. His ratings from patients are low.
Patient Ratings for Dr. Jack Cassell, MD, Urology, Mount Dora, FL
Apparently this guy is a pretty lousy doctor. His ratings from patients are low.
Patient Ratings for Dr. Jack Cassell, MD, Urology, Mount Dora, FL
And the Alinksy smear campaign against this doctor begins.
No need to speak directly to the issue. Just trash the doctor, marginalize him and move on. One more life destroyed in the name of the cause.
Nope, didn't mean to insinuate you were making those comments, and I assume you weren't insinuating I made the attacks you were talking about. Simply pointing out what's happening on both sides here. And poking fun at the tone of "Liberals Bad, Conservatives Good". Just another day at the USMB.
No, I see your argument much as the left wing version of the argument I am trying to make. Neither one of us are taking the position that "our" side has taken.
You seem to respect his right to make the statement whether it is right or wrong and you seem to support HCR.
To me this is nothing but a free speech issue. My side is making this guy out to be a hero for opposing HCR.
I don't like the way he did it, but I believe that he was only trying to make a statement and in no way did he intend to hurt or offend his patients. Yes, it was directed TO the patient, but it was clearly not meant FOR the patient. It was meant FOR Congress. It was a statement to the country about this doctor's opposition to something that will severely affect the way he does business.
I will repeat, something from a post of a few minutes ago... no one is listening.
I believe everyone of us have the right to make such statements and the idea that Care would have the gall to attack him for making one is disturbing to me.
Immie
This particular Doctor CHOSE to put himself in the spotlight, and chose his words on that sign of his...so he also chose the topic....and his sign did not voice any of his concerns regarding health care reform.....Apparently this guy is a pretty lousy doctor. His ratings from patients are low.
Patient Ratings for Dr. Jack Cassell, MD, Urology, Mount Dora, FL
And the Alinksy smear campaign against this doctor begins.
No need to speak directly to the issue. Just trash...
Nope, didn't mean to insinuate you were making those comments, and I assume you weren't insinuating I made the attacks you were talking about. Simply pointing out what's happening on both sides here. And poking fun at the tone of "Liberals Bad, Conservatives Good". Just another day at the USMB.
No, I see your argument much as the left wing version of the argument I am trying to make. Neither one of us are taking the position that "our" side has taken.
You seem to respect his right to make the statement whether it is right or wrong and you seem to support HCR.
To me this is nothing but a free speech issue. My side is making this guy out to be a hero for opposing HCR.
I don't like the way he did it, but I believe that he was only trying to make a statement and in no way did he intend to hurt or offend his patients. Yes, it was directed TO the patient, but it was clearly not meant FOR the patient. It was meant FOR Congress. It was a statement to the country about this doctor's opposition to something that will severely affect the way he does business.
I will repeat, something from a post of a few minutes ago... no one is listening.
I believe everyone of us have the right to make such statements and the idea that Care would have the gall to attack him for making one is disturbing to me.
Immie
Actually I don't support HCR, at least not this bill and how it was done. But that's almost irrelevant here. Actually it is irrelevant.
You're absolutely right this doctor or any of us have every right to make a statement. I've never questioned that. But the fact that some others, not you, have not only defended the way this was done but gone so far as to say free speech demands he be protected from any consequences of his own action AND that any who would use their own freedom of speech to voice their disapproval are the usual handy melting pot of slurs (fascists, statists, etc) is deeply disturbing to me.
To you perhaps it is clear the sign was not meant for the patient, but I would disagree. This is a highly educated professional, unless he treats his local Congressman on a regular basis he has every reason to know Congress would never see it. Who does, and who is it addressed to? His patients. His neighbors. Perhaps even his friends. Did he have any idea it would hit the national media on a tradtitionally slow weekend? If so, is he aware of the inevitable circus he's thrusting on his family, friends and neighbors, not to mention his patients?
Why? What is his motivation for doing it this way as opposed to a way that would either lay out his case and attempt to persuade these same people to his point of view or reach his intended audience? Why jeopardize his business for a political statement that could be made literally dozens of other ways? It's irresponsible at best, and those who think so have every right to express their own opinion and make their own statement with the exact same rights the doctor possesses.
There are too many things here that are troubling, some about him and some about the general atmosphere that makes (verbal) attacks like this on everyday people more and more accepted. Protected speech? Sure. Troubling? Absolutely. Would I support any businessperson who engages in these tactics? No way.
Another nice attempt at changing the subject, you have so much practice at it you'd think you wouldn't be so obvious. I doubt you could get much colder, but let me know when you turn blue. I'm sure it's a great color for you.
Nope, didn't mean to insinuate you were making those comments, and I assume you weren't insinuating I made the attacks you were talking about. Simply pointing out what's happening on both sides here. And poking fun at the tone of "Liberals Bad, Conservatives Good". Just another day at the USMB.
No, I see your argument much as the left wing version of the argument I am trying to make. Neither one of us are taking the position that "our" side has taken.
You seem to respect his right to make the statement whether it is right or wrong and you seem to support HCR.
To me this is nothing but a free speech issue. My side is making this guy out to be a hero for opposing HCR.
I don't like the way he did it, but I believe that he was only trying to make a statement and in no way did he intend to hurt or offend his patients. Yes, it was directed TO the patient, but it was clearly not meant FOR the patient. It was meant FOR Congress. It was a statement to the country about this doctor's opposition to something that will severely affect the way he does business.
I will repeat, something from a post of a few minutes ago... no one is listening.
I believe everyone of us have the right to make such statements and the idea that Care would have the gall to attack him for making one is disturbing to me.
Immie
Actually I don't support HCR, at least not this bill and how it was done. But that's almost irrelevant here. Actually it is irrelevant.
You're absolutely right this doctor or any of us have every right to make a statement. I've never questioned that. But the fact that some others, not you, have not only defended the way this was done but gone so far as to say free speech demands he be protected from any consequences of his own action AND that any who would use their own freedom of speech to voice their disapproval are the usual handy melting pot of slurs (fascists, statists, etc) is deeply disturbing to me.
To you perhaps it is clear the sign was not meant for the patient, but I would disagree. This is a highly educated professional, unless he treats his local Congressman on a regular basis he has every reason to know Congress would never see it. Who does, and who is it addressed to? His patients. His neighbors. Perhaps even his friends. Did he have any idea it would hit the national media on a tradtitionally slow weekend? If so, is he aware of the inevitable circus he's thrusting on his family, friends and neighbors, not to mention his patients?
Why? What is his motivation for doing it this way as opposed to a way that would either lay out his case and attempt to persuade these same people to his point of view or reach his intended audience? Why jeopardize his business for a political statement that could be made literally dozens of other ways? It's irresponsible at best, and those who think so have every right to express their own opinion and make their own statement with the exact same rights the doctor possesses.
There are too many things here that are troubling, some about him and some about the general atmosphere that makes (verbal) attacks like this on everyday people more and more accepted. Protected speech? Sure. Troubling? Absolutely. Would I support any businessperson who engages in these tactics? No way.
This particular Doctor CHOSE to put himself in the spotlight, and chose his words on that sign of his...so he also chose the topic....and his sign did not voice any of his concerns regarding health care reform.....Apparently this guy is a pretty lousy doctor. His ratings from patients are low.
Patient Ratings for Dr. Jack Cassell, MD, Urology, Mount Dora, FL
And the Alinksy smear campaign against this doctor begins.
No need to speak directly to the issue. Just trash...
This is the topic you all want to change it IN TO, imho....but NOT the issue at hand, which to me, is.....Was what he did, by putting a sign on his lobby door, where his own patients are suppose to enter the Lobby to his office, stating in Capital Letters and BOLD PRINT,
IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA
SEEK YOUR UROLOGY SERVICES
ELSEWHERE
This sign was not directed at new patients...NO ONE walks door to door trying to pick out their Urologist for goodness sakes! sheesh
This sign was him directing his angst, towards some of his very own patients, that he took an Oath to ALWAYS keep politics OUT OF HIS PROFESSION......
Why is it so hard to SAY, what he did, in the manner that he did it, was WRONG for him to do, as a Physician...putting himself over the concerns of his patients?
