Five major ObamaCare taxes that will hit your wallet in 2013

[Darkwind]

You know who else has universal health care?

Prisoners.

The notion that 'civilized' nations have universal health care is laughable.

Prisoners enjoy UHC, and the quality of that care is pretty poor. About the same as those other 'civilized' nations.

Civilized. Now that is some funneh shit right there.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

We will never see eye to eye on this CD. It scares the hell out of me.

You're probably right. And that's the beauty of this country. In fact, 50 years ago, both sides would hash it out and come to some kind of compromise, or one side would capitulate. When do you think THAT'S going to happen.

I'll give you a hint: the answer depends on the election in November.

You finally got one right.

If we can elect a Republican Senate and a Republican President, bills that originate in the House will get sent to the Senate floor for debate, compromise and a vote. We might even get a budget passed in less than 3 years.

None of this has happened for the last 3 years for two reasons. One, complete lack of leadership from the President and Two, Harry Reid not allowing dozens of House bills to be debate or voted on.

Previous Presidents would spend many hours talking with members of the opposition party in order to get some agreement on his various positions. It is called the real power of the Presidency, the power of persuasion. Obama very seldom talks to the members of his own party, and even less often to the party he refers to as "the enemy."

You're immediately discounted and discredited. Why? Because you have the actual balls to lay all the gridlock at the feet of the Democrats when the Republicans have said from DAY ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S term that their number one priority was ensuring he get only one term.

You're a hack. And the worst kind of hack. The hack who won't admit he's a hack.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Do you understand what a 'tax credit' is? What your chart is showing is how many people will be getting money back that they NEVER paid in to begin with. It's a duplicate of the earned income tax credit, it's a redistribution of wealth scheme once again. Where the hell do you think that money will come from? Out of the sky? The bottom line is that the government will be spending more money on health care overall, therefore, the tax revenue must increase as well in order to cover it. Or we borrow ourselves into even more debt than we're already in. Which is it going to be?

So you're saying no one pays payroll taxes, then? Is that what you're claiming when you say they don't put money in in the first place? I think that's what you're saying. Are you saying that?

When you pay $1000 a year in federal income taxes, but get $4000 back on your return refund, you are getting back more than you paid in. In other words, YOU PAID NO TAXES AND RECEIVED WELFARE.

So you never get a tax refund then?

 

[candycorn]

While the individual mandate tax gets most of the attention, the ObamaCare law actually contains 20 new or higher taxes on the American people. These taxes are gradually phased in over the years 2010 (with its 10 percent “tanning tax&#8221 to 2018 (when the tax on comprehensive health insurance plans kicks in.)

Six months from now, in January 2013, five major ObamaCare taxes will come into force:


Read more: Five major ObamaCare taxes that will hit your wallet in 2013 | Fox News

So now that you've read the Roger Ailes Opinion on it, here's the truth.

Whenever you see the by-line of the following:

Willow Tree
Sniperfire
The Great Gasbag
RW Ferrett
Bripat


Just assume it is a lie because it will be. Assume it's a lie and spend your time with a better class of losers.

 

[Vel]

You're probably right. And that's the beauty of this country. In fact, 50 years ago, both sides would hash it out and come to some kind of compromise, or one side would capitulate. When do you think THAT'S going to happen.

I'll give you a hint: the answer depends on the election in November.

You finally got one right.

If we can elect a Republican Senate and a Republican President, bills that originate in the House will get sent to the Senate floor for debate, compromise and a vote. We might even get a budget passed in less than 3 years.

None of this has happened for the last 3 years for two reasons. One, complete lack of leadership from the President and Two, Harry Reid not allowing dozens of House bills to be debate or voted on.

Previous Presidents would spend many hours talking with members of the opposition party in order to get some agreement on his various positions. It is called the real power of the Presidency, the power of persuasion. Obama very seldom talks to the members of his own party, and even less often to the party he refers to as "the enemy."

You're immediately discounted and discredited. Why? Because you have the actual balls to lay all the gridlock at the feet of the Democrats when the Republicans have said from DAY ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S term that their number one priority was ensuring he get only one term.

You're a hack. And the worst kind of hack. The hack who won't admit he's a hack.

How many of those House bills had Harry Reid allowed ? Too Tall's post was on the money. BTW.. What will we pay for those tax credits with?

 

[ConservaDerrps]

While the individual mandate tax gets most of the attention, the ObamaCare law actually contains 20 new or higher taxes on the American people. These taxes are gradually phased in over the years 2010 (with its 10 percent “tanning tax”) to 2018 (when the tax on comprehensive health insurance plans kicks in.)

Six months from now, in January 2013, five major ObamaCare taxes will come into force:


Read more: Five major ObamaCare taxes that will hit your wallet in 2013 | Fox News

So now that you've read the Roger Ailes Opinion on it, here's the truth.

Just wondering who or what you think is going to pay for all those "tax credits"? Is Obama going to print a little more?

Oh, that's an easy one if you know how to read and understand how the ACA works. The tax credits are paid for by the new taxes levied on the Health Insurance companies as part of compensating the government for hand delivering millions of new, paying customers to them. Hence why there has been no major outcry from the health insurance companies.

That and the tax put on those making 250k and more a year as a household. You conservatives are going to have to reconcile yourselves with the facts that true Liberals don't give a fuck if you shit all over taxes. Some of us are adults and realize that taxes are a necessary way to ensure we have roads, clean drinking water and other necessary infrastructure to operate. If it were up to Conservatives, every road would either be dirt or owned by a mega-corporation that charged you way more than they needed to cover their operation costs so they could maximize profit.

 

[WillowTree]

 

[WillowTree]

So now that you've read the Roger Ailes Opinion on it, here's the truth.

Just wondering who or what you think is going to pay for all those "tax credits"? Is Obama going to print a little more?

Oh, that's an easy one if you know how to read and understand how the ACA works. The tax credits are paid for by the new taxes levied on the Health Insurance companies as part of compensating the government for hand delivering millions of new, paying customers to them. Hence why there has been no major outcry from the health insurance companies.





That and the tax put on those making 250k and more a year as a household. You conservatives are going to have to reconcile yourselves with the facts that true Liberals don't give a fuck if you shit all over taxes. Some of us are adults and realize that taxes are a necessary way to ensure we have roads, clean drinking water and other necessary infrastructure to operate. If it were up to Conservatives, every road would either be dirt or owned by a mega-corporation that charged you way more than they needed to cover their operation costs so they could maximize profit.

Tell that to the 50% who are fucking leeches in America and then you'll have a point.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

You finally got one right.

If we can elect a Republican Senate and a Republican President, bills that originate in the House will get sent to the Senate floor for debate, compromise and a vote. We might even get a budget passed in less than 3 years.

None of this has happened for the last 3 years for two reasons. One, complete lack of leadership from the President and Two, Harry Reid not allowing dozens of House bills to be debate or voted on.

Previous Presidents would spend many hours talking with members of the opposition party in order to get some agreement on his various positions. It is called the real power of the Presidency, the power of persuasion. Obama very seldom talks to the members of his own party, and even less often to the party he refers to as "the enemy."

You're immediately discounted and discredited. Why? Because you have the actual balls to lay all the gridlock at the feet of the Democrats when the Republicans have said from DAY ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S term that their number one priority was ensuring he get only one term.

You're a hack. And the worst kind of hack. The hack who won't admit he's a hack.

How many of those House bills had Harry Reid allowed ? Too Tall's post was on the money. BTW.. What will we pay for those tax credits with?

Just answered your question.

How many jobs bills have Republicans filibustered in the Senate? I mean actual bills with funds specifically earmarked for jobs. The "jobs" bills you're referring to that Reid has sat on have mostly been de-regulation bills. Considering that de-regulation is the biggest factor in the housing meltdown (I know, you're going to say it was the greedy borrowers taking more money than they could afford while the saintly lenders tried desperately to talk them out of it, right? YAWN), fuck deregulation bills. I'll chastise Reid for sitting on your bills when you chastise Senate Republicans for killing bills that actually had a majority behind them. The filibuster was never meant to swing the power into the hands of the minority like it has.

And I'll tell you this: I won't agree with it, because I'm an honest person, but you better believe the Obstructionist tactic will bite Republicans in the ass if they take the Senate back (which they won't). Don't think for a SECOND Democrats will hesitate to filibuster any bill that hits that Republicans propose.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Just wondering who or what you think is going to pay for all those "tax credits"? Is Obama going to print a little more?

Oh, that's an easy one if you know how to read and understand how the ACA works. The tax credits are paid for by the new taxes levied on the Health Insurance companies as part of compensating the government for hand delivering millions of new, paying customers to them. Hence why there has been no major outcry from the health insurance companies.





That and the tax put on those making 250k and more a year as a household. You conservatives are going to have to reconcile yourselves with the facts that true Liberals don't give a fuck if you shit all over taxes. Some of us are adults and realize that taxes are a necessary way to ensure we have roads, clean drinking water and other necessary infrastructure to operate. If it were up to Conservatives, every road would either be dirt or owned by a mega-corporation that charged you way more than they needed to cover their operation costs so they could maximize profit.

Tell that to the 50% who are fucking leeches in America and then you'll have a point.

You're an idiot, and have no idea how taxes work. Care to tell me WHY 50% of Americans don't pay taxes, WillowTheWonderTwat?

 

[Papageorgio]

So you're saying no one pays payroll taxes, then? Is that what you're claiming when you say they don't put money in in the first place? I think that's what you're saying. Are you saying that?

When you pay $1000 a year in federal income taxes, but get $4000 back on your return refund, you are getting back more than you paid in. In other words, YOU PAID NO TAXES AND RECEIVED WELFARE.

So you never get a tax refund then?

OMG! Are you really claiming to be this dumb?

There are people that pay into taxes, federal, SSI, Medicaid and with tax credits get back more than they paid into all of them combined! It isn't uncommon for some that pay a couple thousand in all taxes combined, to get $6000 or $7000 back.

 

[bripat9643]

Jesus!

Where were you anti-tax heroes when they passed the referendums to arbitrarily add taxes to my smoking habit? You guys were no doubt champing at the bit to stop yet another hit on the low- and middle-class, right?

Or, were you convinced that you would be paying for my medical costs at some point so a tax sounded like a good idea at the time? Maybe it just didn't apply to you, so why bother getting involved?

And now that the Government actually treated you to the same dose of penalty taxation as they seem to hit me with every year and under both parties, you start screaming? Makes a load of sense to me.

I oppose all tax increases, including that one. Dims were the ones pushing the tax on tobacco.

 

[francoHFW]

The dupes are just fear mongered ignorami at this point...

Again, Romneycare is a great success, ACA is better. Health care is killing the country, and dupes are on the side of greedy corporations and wealthy.

The UK isn't spending enough on health care, thanks to their Pubs, the tories, about 8%. But we're at about 18% of GDP, absolute idiocy. Change the channel, morons, and relax, you are duped.

 

[The T]

Jesus!

Where were you anti-tax heroes when they passed the referendums to arbitrarily add taxes to my smoking habit? You guys were no doubt champing at the bit to stop yet another hit on the low- and middle-class, right?

Or, were you convinced that you would be paying for my medical costs at some point so a tax sounded like a good idea at the time? Maybe it just didn't apply to you, so why bother getting involved?

And now that the Government actually treated you to the same dose of penalty taxation as they seem to hit me with every year and under both parties, you start screaming? Makes a load of sense to me.

I oppose all tax increases, including that one. Dims were the ones pushing the tax on tobacco.

While banning smoking and expecting the TAX none the less. When that is gone? Look out foodstuffs...

 

[bripat9643]

You're immediately discounted and discredited. Why? Because you have the actual balls to lay all the gridlock at the feet of the Democrats when the Republicans have said from DAY ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S term that their number one priority was ensuring he get only one term.

You're a hack. And the worst kind of hack. The hack who won't admit he's a hack.

Who's opposed to gridlock? It's sure better than the shit that came out of the fillibuster proof Democrat majority.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

When you pay $1000 a year in federal income taxes, but get $4000 back on your return refund, you are getting back more than you paid in. In other words, YOU PAID NO TAXES AND RECEIVED WELFARE.

So you never get a tax refund then?

OMG! Are you really claiming to be this dumb?

There are people that pay into taxes, federal, SSI, Medicaid and with tax credits get back more than they paid into all of them combined! It isn't uncommon for some that pay a couple thousand in all taxes combined, to get $6000 or $7000 back.

SSI and Medicaid don't effect your tax refund, you know that right?

The whole reason you get money back is that you supposedly paid more than enough in. And that goes for everyone. It's another reason that the "half the country doesn't pay taxes" meme is bullshit.

But thanks for helping me prove MY point, dinkus.

 

[Papageorgio]

You're immediately discounted and discredited. Why? Because you have the actual balls to lay all the gridlock at the feet of the Democrats when the Republicans have said from DAY ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S term that their number one priority was ensuring he get only one term.

You're a hack. And the worst kind of hack. The hack who won't admit he's a hack.

Who's opposed to gridlock? It's sure better than the shit that came out of the fillibuster proof Democrat majority.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[francoHFW]

When you pay $1000 a year in federal income taxes, but get $4000 back on your return refund, you are getting back more than you paid in. In other words, YOU PAID NO TAXES AND RECEIVED WELFARE.

So you never get a tax refund then?

OMG! Are you really claiming to be this dumb?

There are people that pay into taxes, federal, SSI, Medicaid and with tax credits get back more than they paid into all of them combined! It isn't uncommon for some that pay a couple thousand in all taxes combined, to get $6000 or $7000 back.

OMG! Maybe Pubs should allow a living wage (10.50) and stop screwing the nonrich. If you count all fees and taxes, the poor actually pay as much %wise as the richest...You're a total dupe/hater/racist(?).

So what % do think corporations pay here, stupid?

 

[The T]

You're immediately discounted and discredited. Why? Because you have the actual balls to lay all the gridlock at the feet of the Democrats when the Republicans have said from DAY ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S term that their number one priority was ensuring he get only one term.

You're a hack. And the worst kind of hack. The hack who won't admit he's a hack.

Who's opposed to gridlock? It's sure better than the shit that came out of the fillibuster proof Democrat majority.

And the scads of House Bills languishing on Dingy Harry Reid's desk.

 

[Vel]

So now that you've read the Roger Ailes Opinion on it, here's the truth.

Just wondering who or what you think is going to pay for all those "tax credits"? Is Obama going to print a little more?

Oh, that's an easy one if you know how to read and understand how the ACA works. The tax credits are paid for by the new taxes levied on the Health Insurance companies as part of compensating the government for hand delivering millions of new, paying customers to them. Hence why there has been no major outcry from the health insurance companies.

That and the tax put on those making 250k and more a year as a household. You conservatives are going to have to reconcile yourselves with the facts that true Liberals don't give a fuck if you shit all over taxes. Some of us are adults and realize that taxes are a necessary way to ensure we have roads, clean drinking water and other necessary infrastructure to operate. If it were up to Conservatives, every road would either be dirt or owned by a mega-corporation that charged you way more than they needed to cover their operation costs so they could maximize profit.

When you levy new taxes on ANY business, those costs WILL be passed DIRECTLY to consumers. Any benefit to the health insurance companies by having new customers will quickly be eaten away by the new mandatory "free" services that ObamaTax demands. In addition, all the "new" customers will be utilize far more medical services when covered, whether they truly need them or not, because it will SEEM cheap and easy to them. Right now many people are not going to the Dr. for a cold. Under Obamatax, they will.

The insurance industry will simply pass costs on to consumers and now they know that there will be no increased competition like would occur if you could buy insurance across state lines.