First Grader Gives Teacher Fourth Black Eye and A Concussion

[toobfreak]

Grade School?
Are you the idiot that posted years ago that 1-12 were ALL called grade schools.
Because, you know.....12th Grade.
What a moron.

Wow. You are pathetic. No wonderful accomplishments, no superior IQ, emotionally or otherwise. Not even a great net worth.

 

[boevans]

Wow. You are pathetic. No wonderful accomplishments, no superior IQ, emotionally or otherwise. Not even a great net worth.

toob, you don't know what you are talking about. Sit down, shut up, listen, read, and then think.

 

[Winco]

HIGH SCHOOL:

• 9th GRADE
• 10th GRADE
• 11th GRADE
• 12th GRADE.

It's fucking grade school. Another mental challenged Derp. But according to you, grades 7-8 aren't grade school, thery're not high school, they're just out in LIMBO I guess!

I bet that's the same one that says that high school is not grade school neither despite it being grades 9-12.

Yes, that was YOU.

Appreciation

Which means you brought it up. Thanks for admitting it. I brought what up? Out of hundreds of old threads, YOU were so obsessed with the one about policing that after years, YOU brought it up and proved it by falling back on your old, tired, salty gimmick, moron. And just one look at how...

www.usmessageboard.com

JFC, Grade School is defined by this......

There you go running away again, deflecting. Guess those accomplishments weren't so wonderful.

Maybe you SHOULD be sitting at home on your ass collecting welfare!

Wow. You are pathetic. No wonderful accomplishments, no superior IQ, emotionally or otherwise. Not even a great net worth.

 

[Winco]

Wow. You are pathetic. No wonderful accomplishments, no superior IQ, emotionally or otherwise. Not even a great net worth.

Go on.......
Yet you won't say......you just project.
Sign of a Coward.

 

[para bellum]

It was not the first time this student had disrupted the classroom...

 

[toobfreak]

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Thank you Winny for answering a question nobody ever asked, to EVADE answering ANY of the roughly DOZEN I HAVE asked you!

By the way, semantics, Grades 1-12 are all grades of education as informal nouns, but as PROPER nouns, there are also the terms used to break up school levels into

• Elementary School, a subset of
• Grade School, and
• High School.

But that wasn't what I was talking about. You obviously didn't teach English neither.

JUST WHAT DID YOU TEACH?

 

[Winco]

Wow. You are pathetic. No wonderful accomplishments, no superior IQ, emotionally or otherwise. Not even a great net worth.

I see you "Checked Out" and can't respond.

But that wasn't what I was talking about. You obviously didn't teach English neither.

It's "Either" not "Neither"

But......you will SPIN it somehow.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The same way I would prevent a chihuahua from biting me.

So, you would avoid its questions?

 

[toobfreak]

Go on.......
Yet you won't say......

No, YOU will not say.
You just play your silly child games. If you were a school teacher, I can tell YOU SUCKED and your students were the worse for it.
FWIW, my GPA was the highest possible, a perfect 4.0. I got nearly straight As in nearly ever class every test.
And I tested in the 99th percentile. 99.x.
I was offered a college scholarship based on academic achievement.

I only tell you that because having done so, I'd bet my life you STILL won't tell us yours, nor answer any of the other questions.
I've yet to meet a Lefty on this board worth spit when it comes to backing up anything they ever claim.
Now run away little boy.

 

[toobfreak]

It's "Either" not "Neither"

No stupid. When using a negative connotation (in this case, obviously DIDN'T), you say neither. You NEVER say you obviously didn't EITHER. Either is inclusive, neither is exclusive.

Neither or Either - What's the Difference?

Neither and either are two words in the English language that will put your language skills to the test. Not only can their definition and use be challenging to native English speakers, but they can

grammarist.com

Hope you weren't teaching grammar.

 

[Winco]

You just play your silly child games. If you were a school teacher, I can tell YOU SUCKED and your students were the worse for it.

Does this comment make you feel better?
Lil man.
My Students LOVED me, and still do.
But you keep living your feeble life, and I'll check in again.



I'm NOT playing your fruitless game.
You had a 4.00 GPA, Great....... then I ask, WTF are you doing wasting time on this message board.
You have 79,657 Posts in 7.5 years, I have 21,900 Posts in 5 years.
Who's wasting their time.......you pal.
You have 10,621 posts per year, or 29.1 per day.
I have 4,380 posts per year, or 12.0 per day.

You are posting here 2.425 times for every 1 post of mine.

 

[toobfreak]

then I ask, WTF are you doing wasting time on this message board.

I like some of the people here, interesting discussions, learn stuff, a place to pass the time as I'm retired, and to beat on arrogant dumbasses like you.

You are posting here 2.425 times for every 1 post of mine.

Guess I just have a far more fertile mind than you and I type faster. And I'm doing other stuff while on here too.
And unlike you, my posts aren't lame-ass tripe, I don't play word games--- a lot of my posts, I invest real time and work into them.

And you STILL have not answered a word asked of you.
My record still holds: 100-0.

Bye, lame ass.

 

[Winco]

Bye, lame ass.

See Ya.


But you can't resist, and will respond again.......because......you have NO LIFE outside of USMB.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Please do, because this is unsustainable. I understand not invoking issues. OTOH unfair to ask teachers to do this if they are unsupported with 24+ children in their classroom.

Actually, I'll talk about it here. I just watched the video in your OP and it really shows the problem.

I watched those parents who stood up and said that "The PBIS you're using isn't working," and who are dismayed that the school isn't changing what it is doing, since what it is doing is clearly a failure.

There's a reason for that. The school district isn't doing what it thinks its best, it is following all the applicable regulations, and court cases. Those don't change, so they keep doing the same thing. They are not insane, so they don't think they can do the same thing and have different results. By now, they know exactly what the results will be, but they do it anyway.

Why do they keep doing what doesn't work, you ask? Because of the lawyers.

In my area, we have an organization called "GCASE," Gulf Coast Administrators of Special Education. Every year, our district leadership invites the campus Sped Department Chairs to attend a conference at the Galleria, Houston's posh business venue.

Do they tell us the latest research in how to teach children with disabilities, and how to prevent children with disabilities from disrupting the educations of their non-disabled peers? Nope. Not a single educator speaks, unless they also happen to be a lawyer. Every speaker is a lawyer except the head of GCASE, who MC's and introduces the lawyers.

We hear about cases in which districts were successfully sued for things like taking a violent kid out of general education, you know, due to their violence. The district gets sued, that kid goes right back to having "access to their peers," and another reason is established of principals to fear common sense.

"Access to their peers," is the legal terminology. The irony that it is those peers they have been beating up that the courts are forcing districts to provide them "access to" is lost on the legal system.

Districts fear lawsuits, and Office of Civil Rights complaints. "Compliance" is always a hotter topic than education. Our leadership when they do tell us about methods of teaching often use research that is outdated by a decade or more, but that was the last time they really cared about kids learning better.

It's a systemic problem in special ed. Special Ed teachers with common sense typically leave the profession in an average of five years. I honestly think it is only because certain aspects of our personalities over-ride common sense that Mrs. Flops and I have stuck with it for twenty years.

In my training in special ed, I was not taught how to educate special needs kids, I was taught to advocate for them. In that mentality, taking a kid out of class because his emotional disturbance makes him a danger to his classmates and teacher is exactly the same morally as taking out all the black kids.

I admire parent for speaking out, but the administrators are not listening to them if what they say does not fit in with their goal of avoiding lawsuits. Those parent have to start suing themselves, every time a kid who is not mentally or emotionally ready for the gen ed class becomes violent and harms someone, but also if their kids are losing their educations due to the disruptions.

A poster above talked about controlling 44 students in Geometry class. I'm sure he's telling the truth. Those higher level math kids are not likely to be emotionally unstable, and certainly not have learning disabilities. I can controls uch student and successfully teach them in small groups.

The problem arrises when those disabled student are pushed in with non-disabled peers in a class full of average, lightly interested, students. Teacher focus on controlling behavior, so there is far less learning.

Those Asian countries that are kicking our asses in standardized testing in Math and Science, are not letting disabled kids take education from typical students, I am sure of that.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Was he uncontrollable before his father died?

Yes.

God bless you and the boy and the remaining members of his family always!!!

Holly

P.S. The awful thing is that both his mom and dad were killed because it was a fire in their house that took them. The three kids were the only ones who survived, and it was because of the oldest of the three. He was able to get himself and the other two out safely, but after that, he wasn't able to get back into the house to get his parents out. Anyway, the youngest should be around eight years old now and because of both his parents being gone, I don't know what was done with him due to his own mental issues.

 

[SweetSue92]

Teachers could attack back I would have sliced their gullet open if any did that.

While you say teachers can't touch students, plenty of pervert teachers do. Why pervert are tolerated is anyone's guess. Especially known perves who have a pandering internet presence showcasing their preversion.

You realize that once caught, those perverts are prosecuted and often jailed. Right?

Like no one goes around school saying "oh yeah, pay no mind to Mr. Smith, he's a kiddie diddler, we all know it and don't care."

 

[SweetSue92]

Actually, I'll talk about it here. I just watched the video in your OP and it really shows the problem.

I watched those parents who stood up and said that "The PBIS you're using isn't working," and who are dismayed that the school isn't changing what it is doing, since what it is doing is clearly a failure.

There's a reason for that. The school district isn't doing what it thinks its best, it is following all the applicable regulations, and court cases. Those don't change, so they keep doing the same thing. They are not insane, so they don't think they can do the same thing and have different results. By now, they know exactly what the results will be, but they do it anyway.

Why do they keep doing what doesn't work, you ask? Because of the lawyers.

In my area, we have an organization called "GCASE," Gulf Coast Administrators of Special Education. Every year, our district leadership invites the campus Sped Department Chairs to attend a conference at the Galleria, Houston's posh business venue.

Do they tell us the latest research in how to teach children with disabilities, and how to prevent children with disabilities from disrupting the educations of their non-disabled peers? Nope. Not a single educator speaks, unless they also happen to be a lawyer. Every speaker is a lawyer except the head of GCASE, who MC's and introduces the lawyers.

We hear about cases in which districts were successfully sued for things like taking a violent kid out of general education, you know, due to their violence. The district gets sued, that kid goes right back to having "access to their peers," and another reason is established of principals to fear common sense.

"Access to their peers," is the legal terminology. The irony that it is those peers they have been beating up that the courts are forcing districts to provide them "access to" is lost on the legal system.

Districts fear lawsuits, and Office of Civil Rights complaints. "Compliance" is always a hotter topic than education. Our leadership when they do tell us about methods of teaching often use research that is outdated by a decade or more, but that was the last time they really cared about kids learning better.

It's a systemic problem in special ed. Special Ed teachers with common sense typically leave the profession in an average of five years. I honestly think it is only because certain aspects of our personalities over-ride common sense that Mrs. Flops and I have stuck with it for twenty years.

In my training in special ed, I was not taught how to educate special needs kids, I was taught to advocate for them. In that mentality, taking a kid out of class because his emotional disturbance makes him a danger to his classmates and teacher is exactly the same morally as taking out all the black kids.

I admire parent for speaking out, but the administrators are not listening to them if what they say does not fit in with their goal of avoiding lawsuits. Those parent have to start suing themselves, every time a kid who is not mentally or emotionally ready for the gen ed class becomes violent and harms someone, but also if their kids are losing their educations due to the disruptions.

A poster above talked about controlling 44 students in Geometry class. I'm sure he's telling the truth. Those higher level math kids are not likely to be emotionally unstable, and certainly not have learning disabilities. I can controls uch student and successfully teach them in small groups.

The problem arrises when those disabled student are pushed in with non-disabled peers in a class full of average, lightly interested, students. Teacher focus on controlling behavior, so there is far less learning.

Those Asian countries that are kicking our asses in standardized testing in Math and Science, are not letting disabled kids take education from typical students, I am sure of that.

Please write this in a book.

Print it on the back of menus.

Put it on a banner and fly it over the superbowl.

All of it, all of this, every word.

 

[SweetSue92]

I like some of the people here, interesting discussions, learn stuff, a place to pass the time as I'm retired, and to beat on arrogant dumbasses like you.


Guess I just have a far more fertile mind than you and I type faster. And I'm doing other stuff while on here too.
And unlike you, my posts aren't lame-ass tripe, I don't play word games--- a lot of my posts, I invest real time and work into them.

And you STILL have not answered a word asked of you.
My record still holds: 100-0.

Bye, lame ass.

Definitely one of the best posters here fwiw coming from me haha

 

[Unkotare]

I have to watch myself. I'm a real big guy and trained in martial arts. If I start beating up 1st graders, I'll have a dead kid on my hands and no one wants that, so I don't think I'll be doing any stone cold stunners on them.

 

[Unkotare]

Meh....I've seen some kids that fit the bill.

6, 7 years old? Really?