First Amendment.

[colfax_m]

The Whitehouse is telling Facebook and Twitter which posts it deemed as harmful to the American people...and Facebook agreed and banned those people...and erased those posts.

I don’t know if you know this but basically every social media platform (including a forum like this) has means to report content.

 

[JohnDB]

I don’t know if you know this but basically every social media platform (including a forum like this) has means to report content.

Yes, because there are such things as community standards of decency that need to be adhered to...and some people aren't decent human beings. There's no nation on the planet that allows the public sexualization of children...and some people would post child pornography.
There's more than just this and it's different for every country...but it's supposed to be just keeping the most obvious community standards for the region intact.

No one even said or did a thing about the Burma revolution....but Facebook was instrumental in making that happen. Basically openly endorsing the murder of public officials (completely against community standards in every country)

But one word about the failure of the current administration or questioning the vaccines and now you get incarcerated? Too far!

 

[colfax_m]

Yes, because there are such things as community standards of decency that need to be adhered to...and some people aren't decent human beings. There's no nation on the planet that allows the public sexualization of children...and some people would post child pornography.
There's more than just this and it's different for every country...but it's supposed to be just keeping the most obvious community standards for the region intact.

No one even said or did a thing about the Burma revolution....but Facebook was instrumental in making that happen. Basically openly endorsing the murder of public officials (completely against community standards in every country)

But one word about the failure of the current administration or questioning the vaccines and now you get incarcerated? Too far!

I have no problem with complaining about the poor consistency of moderation.

But that’s not really a constitutional argument anymore. Just complaining about corporate policy.

 

[JohnDB]

I have no problem with complaining about the poor consistency of moderation.

But that’s not really a constitutional argument anymore. Just complaining about corporate policy.

Ok...
Moderation is one thing...it's been highly inconsistent...not illegal but related.

The illegal part is the refusal to allow freedom of political speech and directing and authorizing Facebook to remove any political speech from appearing on the public platform. And this in the face of a SCOTUS decision that specifically said for this specifically not to happen.

 

[colfax_m]

Ok...
Moderation is one thing...it's been highly inconsistent...not illegal but related.

The illegal part is the refusal to allow freedom of political speech and directing and authorizing Facebook to remove any political speech from appearing on the public platform. And this in the face of a SCOTUS decision that specifically said for this specifically not to happen.

Facebook does not need authorization to remove anything. It’s their website.

The government is not directing them to do anything any more than I am directing them by reporting content which I think is in violation.

 

[Blues Man]

So where I'm kinda shocked....my chin hit the floor.

The Whitehouse is telling Facebook and Twitter which posts it deemed as harmful to the American people...and Facebook agreed and banned those people...and erased those posts.

Erasing first amendment rights.

Look, I don't care if you think that taking a vaccine is a statement that you love Satan and kill kittens or club baby seals.... you have a right to say it on a public platform.

Coming from a president that has a 20% approval rating....

Time to toss him out!

You have no First Amendment rights on Facebook.

It's a private platform and all posts are subject to the discretion of the company.

 

[Baron]

So where I'm kinda shocked....my chin hit the floor.

The Whitehouse is telling Facebook and Twitter which posts it deemed as harmful to the American people...and Facebook agreed and banned those people...and erased those posts.

Erasing first amendment rights.

Look, I don't care if you think that taking a vaccine is a statement that you love Satan and kill kittens or club baby seals.... you have a right to say it on a public platform.

Coming from a president that has a 20% approval rating....

Time to toss him out!

LOL

Wake up, the entirely West live now in the Corona Tyranny, all our freedoms are gone.
It will be never free elections or freedoms because inoculated idiots will start to die in 1 or 2 years.
Just read the Deagel Report 2025
Whom are prepared those concentration camps for?
All corona dissents and deniers will be murdered by Biden, Putin, Gates and another Corona gangsters.
The population of Earth is too high.
They want to reduce it by 95%

 

[JohnDB]

Facebook does not need authorization to remove anything. It’s their website.

The government is not directing them to do anything any more than I am directing them by reporting content which I think is in violation.

Yes they did...the video clip of Biden's press secretary is directly in opposition to your claim.

 

[colfax_m]

Yes they did...the video clip of Biden's press secretary is directly in opposition to your claim.

The clip you provided has about 10 seconds of Psaki and then like 6 minutes of some talking heads spewing nonsense.

At no point in time does anyone indicate they’re ordering Facebook to do anything. Flagging content is what we all do when we report it.

 

[JohnDB]

The clip you provided has about 10 seconds of Psaki and then like 6 minutes of some talking heads spewing nonsense.

At no point in time does anyone indicate they’re ordering Facebook to do anything. Flagging content is what we all do when we report it.

Its termed "deputizing"...
It's the restricting of free speech.
It's specifically prohibited by the constitution. Watch it carefully again. Ignore the fact that it's discussing a topic you agree with the Biden Admin point of view. That's not the relevant part. It's that they are doing it at all is the relevant part.

It's a complete disregard for SCOTUS and the constitution.

 

[colfax_m]

Its termed "deputizing"...
It's the restricting of free speech.
It's specifically prohibited by the constitution. Watch it carefully again. Ignore the fact that it's discussing a topic you agree with the Biden Admin point of view. That's not the relevant part. It's that they are doing it at all is the relevant part.

It's a complete disregard for SCOTUS and the constitution.

The term deputized has applicability here unless you’re a Trump hack.

You need to demonstrate that government has control over Facebook with regards to these decisions and so far that’s completely lacking.

The hyperventilating talking heads ignored it.

 

[JohnDB]

The term deputized has applicability here unless you’re a Trump hack.

You need to demonstrate that government has control over Facebook with regards to these decisions and so far that’s completely lacking.

The hyperventilating talking heads ignored it.

Again not relevant.

Why are you being deliberately obtuse?

What if Trump said to Facebook for them to silence BLM and Antifa because they are starting riots? And they complied?

Same reason he didn't was because of the mandates of SCOTUS. He might have wanted to do so....but it's illegal to do it. The Whitehouse cannot direct anyone to limit free speech especially of a political nature. And Antifa and BLM were acting in a seditious fashion with seditious statements. (By all legal definitions)

 

[Lastamender]

Government involvement is certainly a breach of 1st Amendment protections under the guise of private actions, don't you agree?

The police can't get some civilian to go break into a house and gather evidence. Surely the same concept applies here, no?

That is called fascism. Business and government working together to oppress and silence citizens.

 

[Lastamender]

I don’t know if you know this but basically every social media platform (including a forum like this) has means to report content.

And move that content where they think it belongs. They should not have any say in what is the real truth and what is not. It is called bias.

 

[colfax_m]

Again not relevant.

Why are you being deliberately obtuse?

What if Trump said to Facebook for them to silence BLM and Antifa because they are starting riots? And they complied?

Same reason he didn't was because of the mandates of SCOTUS. He might have wanted to do so....but it's illegal to do it. The Whitehouse cannot direct anyone to limit free speech especially of a political nature. And Antifa and BLM were acting in a seditious fashion with seditious statements. (By all legal definitions)

It’s extremely relevant.

Facebook cannot be “deputized” if they aren’t acting under the command of the government. If the administration is flagging content and Facebook is taking it down because they believe that it violates their own policies (they have rules against COVID misinformation) then they aren’t acting as part of government. The government isn’t limiting free speech. It’s flagging for review for the owners of the site.

Trump’s argument in his lawsuit is baseless.

 

[colfax_m]

And move that content where they think it belongs. They should not have any say in what is the real truth and what is not. It is called bias.

Mods can and do remove posts on this website.

That’s called ownership rights.

 

[Lastamender]

Mods can and do remove posts on this website.

That’s called ownership rights.

I said "move". It is called bias too.

 

[colfax_m]

I said "move". It is called bias too.

Don’t care. Bias has nothing to do with this topic.

 

[Lastamender]

Don’t care. Bias has nothing to do with this topic.

Bias has everything to do with it. Start thinking and come back.

 

[colfax_m]

Bias has everything to do with it. Start thinking and come back.

Nope. Bias is constitutionally protected, obviously.

Try to rephrase your intended point.