Finland: Government Collapses Over Universal Health Care Costs

[Weatherman2020]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

 

[Confounding]

And for some crazy reason after they sort it out they'll still be using universal healthcare.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And for some crazy reason after they sort it out they'll still be using universal healthcare.

By letting undesirables die on the table.

 

[Confounding]

And for some crazy reason after they sort it out they'll still be using universal healthcare.

By letting undesirables die on the table.

I doubt it.

 

[skye]

I don't feel sorry for them

next.....Sweden will collapse too!

Idiotic... globalist nations must collapse....sooner or later!

so be it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

This had almost nothing to do with their health care. It's a political move so that they can consolidate with other groups and stay in power. If they are in power, they have to go it alone and the other side has more than an even chance of defeating them. By resigning, they can align with other groups and have a much better standing.

This is made up news about the health care being the main reason. It was an excuse to resign, nothing more. It just looked better to the public.

 

[Confounding]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

This had almost nothing to do with their health care. It's a political move so that they can consolidate with other groups and stay in power. If they are in power, they have to go it alone and the other side has more than an even chance of defeating them. By resigning, they can align with other groups and have a much better standing.

This is made up news about the health care being the main reason. It was an excuse to resign, nothing more. It just looked better to the public.

You mean to tell me the Free Beacon is pushing a narrative?

Well, I never!

 

[MarathonMike]

And for some crazy reason after they sort it out they'll still be using universal healthcare.

By letting undesirables die on the table.

The soon to be most used phrased by Finnish doctors: "Well you've had a good long life but......"

 

[skye]

Scandinavian countries..sadly ... have absorbed globalism so deeply ....

I wonder if its in their genes to like to be fucked by other cultures

Are they really such imbeciles???

and ...

if they are

they deserve everything they get.

Everything to the last drop of suffering.

 

[bullwinkle]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

Hey weather...Try this one: Finland’s Government Resigns After Failure of Flagship Health and Social Care Reforms

This article said something completely different than the Washington Beacon. They say first that the government is NOT collapsing, and second that the reason for the anger against the government is because the resigning party wanted to REFORM the current healthcare system, mainly because the population is aging and trouble will hit in about 2030.

Same incident, opposing rationalizations.

 

[Shrimpbox]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

This had almost nothing to do with their health care. It's a political move so that they can consolidate with other groups and stay in power. If they are in power, they have to go it alone and the other side has more than an even chance of defeating them. By resigning, they can align with other groups and have a much better standing.

This is made up news about the health care being the main reason. It was an excuse to resign, nothing more. It just looked better to the public.

Yeah right, it can never be the cost of universal health care that is the problem. Never. That would mean socialists and liberals would have to admit they were wrong, and as this forum shows, they are incapable of that.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

This had almost nothing to do with their health care. It's a political move so that they can consolidate with other groups and stay in power. If they are in power, they have to go it alone and the other side has more than an even chance of defeating them. By resigning, they can align with other groups and have a much better standing.

This is made up news about the health care being the main reason. It was an excuse to resign, nothing more. It just looked better to the public.

You mean to tell me the Free Beacon is pushing a narrative?

Well, I never!

you just instantly dismissed it because of your bigotry and personal bias

the free becon is siting three sources and interesting poll ..their writers write with libertarian and right wing POVs ...IM OUTRAGED derp Ill just dismiss it cause im an open minded well educated derp well read leftist .....derp

See i can read the new york times or the world socialist website because i'm not a brain washed moron under 30 .I wont blast it until ive actually read through it or at the least scanned it



'Prime Minister Juha Sipila and the rest of the cabinet resigned after the governing coalition failed to pass reforms in parliament to the country's regional government and health services, the Wall Street Journal reports. Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens expected to be over 65 by the year 2030, an increase of 5 percent from today.'

if you like Uniparty globalist rino neo-con I have a paid subscription to the WSJ if anyone wants to read the link in the free becon

Reuters MINISTRY OF TRUTH APPROVED reports that soaring treatment costs and longer life spans have particularly affected Nordic countries.

Finland's aging population is increasing the financial strain on its health care system. From a BBC News report: MINISTRY OF TRUTH APPROVED


The Kaiser Family Foundation found that 58 percent of Americans oppose "Medicare for all" if told it would eliminate private health insurance plans, and 60 percent oppose it if it requires higher taxes.


what America really needs is another OBAMA ACA written by multinational corporations derp

cause ....its socialism what are you so afraid of derp

 

[Andylusion]

And for some crazy reason after they sort it out they'll still be using universal healthcare.

Yeah, maybe. But the point remains that they are still going broke, still having huge budget problems, and still having to try and fix it.

I thought the left-wingers told us that if we had Nordic style health care, that it would be a utopia. Where is it?

and let us also look at the taxes over there.

A person earning just $48,000 a year, pays 21% in income tax, and 16% to 22% depending on what specific municipality you are in.

In short, the middle class pays a minimum tax of 37% in taxes, and as high as 43%.

Keep in mind that doesn't include the 24% sales tax. So what little money you have left over, you get to pay a massive sales tax on everything you buy.

Also keep in mind that high taxes on Finland's employers, results in lower pay to employees. The average Finnish worker earns about 10% less money for the same job, as their US counterparts.

TO THE POINT.....

With all this money collected by the government, shouldn't that have unlimited money to spend on health care?

And yet they don't. Are you getting the picture sparky? Your system doesn't work.

If it did, Finland should not be even having this discussion.

 

[2aguy]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

We told them. Imagine if they actually had to provide for their own national defense, this collapse would have come decades sooner.

If Americans realized that the democrats want to turn our entire healthcare system into the VA for everyone, then people might stop voting for democrats.....

 

[2aguy]

And for some crazy reason after they sort it out they'll still be using universal healthcare.

Yeah, maybe. But the point remains that they are still going broke, still having huge budget problems, and still having to try and fix it.

I thought the left-wingers told us that if we had Nordic style health care, that it would be a utopia. Where is it?

and let us also look at the taxes over there.

A person earning just $48,000 a year, pays 21% in income tax, and 16% to 22% depending on what specific municipality you are in.

In short, the middle class pays a minimum tax of 37% in taxes, and as high as 43%.

Keep in mind that doesn't include the 24% sales tax. So what little money you have left over, you get to pay a massive sales tax on everything you buy.

Also keep in mind that high taxes on Finland's employers, results in lower pay to employees. The average Finnish worker earns about 10% less money for the same job, as their US counterparts.

TO THE POINT.....

With all this money collected by the government, shouldn't that have unlimited money to spend on health care?

And yet they don't. Are you getting the picture sparky? Your system doesn't work.

If it did, Finland should not be even having this discussion.

Government never does anything well......it is only a matter of time till it turns to crap.....

They are paying for healthcare that sucks, they have less money to spend on their families, and if it wasn't for the U.S., they would already be speaking Russian.

 

[The Irish Ram]

What I think is sad, is the fact that this country won't learn from their mistakes...

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

What I think is sad, is the fact that this country won't learn from their mistakes...

it what they do
'they keep pushing the same old failed shit dressed up as something new

YA know a little Medicaid /Medicare reform by the feds and states along with a nation wide deregulation of health insurance could probably drive insurance costs down

it worked with auto insurance

when the ACA kicked in the poor on medi whatever got hammered as doctors wouldn't take it anymore..
instead of a system wide array of health choices ...for say like surgery on a broken arm
you could no longer go to a mt sinai or the sports medicine specialist on the east side ...i forget their name ....some of the best orthopedics in the world

THEY DROPPED some of their poor patients and wouldn't accept new ones

cmon left wing fags tell us how much you really care and how fucking smart you are
MORONS

 

[MarathonMike]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

Hey weather...Try this one: Finland’s Government Resigns After Failure of Flagship Health and Social Care Reforms

This article said something completely different than the Washington Beacon. They say first that the government is NOT collapsing, and second that the reason for the anger against the government is because the resigning party wanted to REFORM the current healthcare system, mainly because the population is aging and trouble will hit in about 2030.

Same incident, opposing rationalizations.

In either case, the root problem is still their healthcare system that is doomed to failure.

 

[WheelieAddict]

“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

Let’s be more like Europe the Left say!

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

fake news

 

[Confounding]

What I think is sad, is the fact that this country won't learn from their mistakes...

I guess they don't think it's a mistake.