FINALLY - Employers hit with $28K fines and prison time for hiring illegal workers

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No.

Still haven't taken that remedial reading comprehension course eh?

You only act rude when you are caught out. Do your research.

 

[Foxfyre]

You only act rude when you are caught out. Do your research.

I did. Take your own advice please.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I did. Take your own advice please.

Then you don't understand it.

 

[Foxfyre]

Then you don't understand it.

Sorry but I don't think you even know what you're arguing now. Do have a pleasant evening.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Sorry but I don't think you even know what you're arguing now. Do have a pleasant evening.

You are describing your own inadequacy. Sad that it is you.

 

[candycorn]

Because its not their responsibility to research the history of those they contract out with.
Paying people for work done is inherently legal, and it is ICE who is in violation of basic principles of a republic.

Not even remotely true.

Its the responsibility of the employer to make sure they aren't hiring kids, they aren't hiring someone who has communicable diseases, someone who isn't addicted to drugs, etc... The laws vary by the state so save the "prove it" retort.

ICE is enforcing the laws of the United States. What ICE isn't doing is performing the standard and customary acts of a police force to where they issue the Miranda Warning, identify themselves, etc... Its the typical chaos that follow the blob around like a dark cloud.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If the illegals can't get jobs most will leave . And if we also stop giving them freebies like welfare and free healthcare and free k-12, then ALL will leave. Getting these people to self-deport is easy. Take away the jobs and freebies.

Employers hit with $28K fines and prison time for hiring illegal workers under federal crackdown

The border isn’t the only front. The real shift is happening behind storefronts and inside payroll departments. For decades, immigration enforcement focused on the worker. The guy with the shovel. The woman behind the counter. But now, the spotlight is swinging toward the people signing

citizenwatchreport.com

The laws make it very hard to prove an illegal is illegal. They usually have documents "proving" their identity:

Determining whether an employee is legally authorized to work in the U.S. is the employer's responsibility and can present a degree of difficulty.
1. Verification Procedures:

• Form I-9: Employers are mandated to complete a Form I-9 for each new hire to verify identity and employment authorization. Employees attest to their work authorization and present acceptable documents (like a U.S. passport or green card) to prove their identity and authorization.
• E-Verify: This voluntary, web-based system electronically compares Form I-9 information to government databases (DHS and SSA) to confirm employment eligibility. It's currently considered the best way to electronically verify work authorization, though some employers may choose private verification providers for more extensive services.
• Document Inspection: Employers must examine documents provided by the employee to ensure they appear genuine and relate to the individual.

2. Challenges and Limitations:

• Document Fraud: Fake or stolen documents can make it challenging to verify the authenticity of an employee's work authorization. Some sources suggest that with sophisticated technology, forged documents can be highly convincing.
• Difficulty in Detection: Unless a new hire submits obviously fake documents during the initial I-9 process, their unauthorized status might not be uncovered easily, especially for long-term employees who may even be unaware of their status.
• Employer Liability: Employers can face significant penalties for knowingly hiring or continuing to employ unauthorized workers, including civil fines and even criminal prosecution.
• Anti-Discrimination Laws: Employers must be careful not to ask for specific documents or discriminate based on national origin, ethnicity, or citizenship status during the verification process.

3. Factors that can increase the difficulty:

• Scale of Operations: Large companies with a high volume of hires may find it more challenging to thoroughly verify each individual's status.
• Employer Awareness and Diligence: Employers who fail to diligently follow I-9 procedures, including addressing "no-match" letters or discrepancies, increase their risk of employing unauthorized workers.
• Organized Identity Theft: Stolen identities and sophisticated document forgery operations can make it harder for employers to detect unauthorized workers.

 

[el midgetron]

Wrong.
To compete with China, we need far more workers that can take advantage of economy of scale.

That sounds like a pseudo academic way of saying, you need illegals to wipe your ass.

 

[el midgetron]

More than a quarter million are gone.

Stop being a pessimist, Slow-Horses. Don’t look at the cup as being half empty, think of it as we still have something like 13M illegals here to pick cotton for you.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Stop being a pessimist, Slow-Horses. Don’t look at the cup as being half empty, think of it as we still have something like 13M illegals here to pick cotton for you.

It's maybe 10 to 11 million. Trump may get 4 million.

 

[TimFitz]

Illegals cost taxpayers a staggering amount each year.

How do they do that?

Illegals have taxes and FICA and FUTA deducted from their pay.

They never file tax returns, so that money all goes to the government.

 

[TimFitz]

Stop being a pessimist, Slow-Horses. Don’t look at the cup as being half empty, think of it as we still have something like 13M illegals here to pick cotton for you.

So, do they get amnesty and the right to remain?

 

[TimFitz]

Bill Clinton enforced these laws. He charged and got Court Orders on over 1000 employers when he was in office.

Barack Obama enforced these laws. He got over 400 Orders in his first term, alone.

Employers escape sanctions, while the undocumented risk lives and prosecution

Over a 12-month period ending in March, only 11 individuals were prosecuted for hiring undocumented workers and only three received any jail time, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse. Companies prosecuted for undocumented employees: zero. Compare those...

publicintegrity.org

The US’s Immigration Crackdown Began Decades Ago Under Clinton

To stop Trump’s crackdown, we must repeal immigration laws from 1996.

truthout.org

George W. Bush prosecuted employers:

Just the Facts: The Bush Administration's Strong Worksite Enforcement Efforts | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

From your link:



Trump prosecuted 11 employers in his first administration.

Trump’s Crackdown on Illegal Immigration: 11 Employers Prosecuted in the Past Year (Published 2019)

A total of 11 employers have been prosecuted for hiring undocumented workers over the past 12 months.

www.nytimes.com

News from TRAC

So really the only President who has refused to prosecute employers up until now is Donald Trump.

B.S,

This is a one off.

Trump panders to employer’s interests.

The chicken industry lobbied (bribed) Trump’s Agricultore Secretary to weaken Covid guidelines in meat processing plants so they could force workers to work in unsafe conditions. Predictably, Covid spread, and gradually turned the rural communities that these plants were located in innto Covid hot spots.

Employers have been quick to run to Trump for relief from ICE raids.

 

[TimFitz]

Democrats who hire and exploit illegal immigrants need the book thrown at them.

Know a democrat with an illegal immigrant housekeeper or land scaper? Report them.

Report slave masters!!!

Is there some reason why you ink that enforcing laws against this widespread practice shoul be limited to Democrats alone?

 

[dblack]

Democrats who hire and exploit illegal immigrants need the book thrown at them.

Know a democrat with an illegal immigrant housekeeper or land scaper? Report them.

Report slave masters!!!

It's hard to enforce the law when there are so many people out there sympathizing and supporting the enemy.

They had similar problems in Germany back in the day. Reporting them is the only way!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Because its not their responsibility to research the history of those they contract out with.
Paying people for work done is inherently legal, and it is ICE who is in violation of basic principles of a republic.

"Research"? No.

Verify employment eligibility to work in this country? Yes.

WW

 

[dblack]

Because its not their responsibility to research the history of those they contract out with.

That's exactly it. This is another attempt to enlist employers as agents of the government.

If I stop at a taco truck, am I responsible for vetting all the people inside before I buy a taco? Same principle, right?

 

[WorldWatcher]

That's exactly it. This is another attempt to enlist employers as agents of the government.

If I stop at a taco truck, am I responsible for vetting all the people inside before I buy a taco? Same principle, right?

No, taco sales are not covered by employment law. Hiring employees is.

If you stop at a taco truck, you would be advised (as with any eating establishment) that they have a posted business license and health certificate.

Employment Law =/= Food Prep

WW

 

[Dragonlady]

If the illegals can't get jobs most will leave . And if we also stop giving them freebies like welfare and free healthcare and free k-12, then ALL will leave. Getting these people to self-deport is easy. Take away the jobs and freebies.

Employers hit with $28K fines and prison time for hiring illegal workers under federal crackdown

The border isn’t the only front. The real shift is happening behind storefronts and inside payroll departments. For decades, immigration enforcement focused on the worker. The guy with the shovel. The woman behind the counter. But now, the spotlight is swinging toward the people signing

citizenwatchreport.com

The idiocy of the MAGA hater in full display.

If ALL leave, your economy shrinks by MASSIVE numbers. I've seen estimates ranging from

"Reasonable estimates for the total cost of mass deportations vary, but the most common estimate is between $162 billion and $315 billion per year. For context, $162 billion is almost as much as the federal government spent on all its agencies in 2024. . . . .

In Texas alone, the Texas government estimated that illegal immigrants in Texas added around $18 billion to the GDP of the state and $1.5 billion in total revenue while only costing the state less than $1.16 billion in services provided."

What Would It Cost to Deport 13 Million Undocumented Immigrants?

It will cost hundreds of billions of Dollars to deport every undocumented migrant in the United States and destroy the U.S. economy.

247wallst.com

"Estimates suggest that mass deportations could reduce the gross domestic product (GDP) by 2.6% to 6.2% over the next decade."

Social and Economic Effects of Expanded Deportation Measures | Baker Institute

Mass deportations have wide-ranging economic and social implications. The latest brief from the Center for the U.S. and Mexico examines how potential labor shortages and economic disruptions could affect U.S. communities.

www.bakerinstitute.org

 

[Meathead]

The idiocy of the MAGA hater in full display.

If ALL leave, your economy shrinks by MASSIVE numbers. I've seen estimates ranging from

"Reasonable estimates for the total cost of mass deportations vary, but the most common estimate is between $162 billion and $315 billion per year. For context, $162 billion is almost as much as the federal government spent on all its agencies in 2024. . . . .

In Texas alone, the Texas government estimated that illegal immigrants in Texas added around $18 billion to the GDP of the state and $1.5 billion in total revenue while only costing the state less than $1.16 billion in services provided."

What Would It Cost to Deport 13 Million Undocumented Immigrants?

It will cost hundreds of billions of Dollars to deport every undocumented migrant in the United States and destroy the U.S. economy.

247wallst.com

"Estimates suggest that mass deportations could reduce the gross domestic product (GDP) by 2.6% to 6.2% over the next decade."

Social and Economic Effects of Expanded Deportation Measures | Baker Institute

Mass deportations have wide-ranging economic and social implications. The latest brief from the Center for the U.S. and Mexico examines how potential labor shortages and economic disruptions could affect U.S. communities.

www.bakerinstitute.org

Money well spent.