FINALLY - Employers hit with $28K fines and prison time for hiring illegal workers

[StatesRightsForever]

$28K? Not even few months living costs for one paid non working Mexican single mother with 4 kids. Fact. Multiply by tens of millions.

Yes - we need to throw the book at anyone who hires an illegal or rents them housing. Years of prison time for a few would make everyone stop.

 

[Rigby5]

If the illegals can't get jobs most will leave . And if we also stop giving them freebies like welfare and free healthcare and free k-12, then ALL will leave. Getting these people to self-deport is easy. Take away the jobs and freebies.

Employers hit with $28K fines and prison time for hiring illegal workers under federal crackdown

The border isn’t the only front. The real shift is happening behind storefronts and inside payroll departments. For decades, immigration enforcement focused on the worker. The guy with the shovel. The woman behind the counter. But now, the spotlight is swinging toward the people signing

citizenwatchreport.com

It is against the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo to prevent natives from being able to work in the US.
In fact, it is obvious illegal discrimination to even consider the descendants of European invaders as being legal here at all, and even worse to try to block or deport the descendants of natives who actually do have the inherent right to be here.

There is absolutely no legal basis for being able to fine or arrest anyone for hiring anyone.
The ability to work is primary in the Declaration of Independence.
There can never be any basis for violating those basic rights.

 

[Rigby5]

Illegals cost taxpayers a staggering amount each year.

Illegals not only cost us nothing, but are essential for us to pay down the national debt, prevent Social Security default, etc.
We can't compete with China without lots more immigrants.
The success of the US in the 1800s was entirely due to mass immigration.
The decline of the US has been due to anti immigration laws after 1920.

 

[Rigby5]

There are probably 15 million illegal kids in our k-12. At $20,000 per kid per year that is $300 Billion right there.

Ha!
That much spending would mean you were giving each kid their own individual tutor.
The reality is that illegal immigrant kids cost nothing to educate, since class size is shrinking and is lower than the optimum.
So adding more kids to classes costs nothing.

 

[Rigby5]

Great this needs to happen. illegal aliens and their supporters always complain they are been deport even when they don't have a criminal record. all illegal aliens must be made to understand that all illegal aliens will lawfully be deported whether they have a criminal record or not and it does not matter how long they have been living illegally in the USA.

Wrong.
If you look at the actual law, like the Declaration of Independence, the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo, etc., it is we who are the descendants of the European invaders who are here illegally, and those from south of the border are the natives who have a right to be here.

 

[Rigby5]

Hopefully liberals will need to start wiping their own asses.

Wrong.
To compete with China, we need far more workers that can take advantage of economy of scale.

 

[Rigby5]

Not saying that they shouldn't be but wake me when a plant/site manager and who's doing the hiring is arrested.

Disingenuous thread title....Who has been arrested for hiring illegals? Nobody according to the article. Maybe it's a secret.

It is not legal to arrest those hiring.
If someone shows a Social Security card, there is no way for employers to be able to check if someone else is using the same card.

 

[Rigby5]

we could do plenty with 300B, maybe put that into SS so it does not drain to nothing in the future

School enrollment is dropping, so the buildings, teachers, classes, etc., already exist, and more students cost us nothing at all.

 

[dblack]

Great. Now employers will be quasi law-enforcement agents. Facists gonna fascist.

 

[Rigby5]

From a month ago -

“CCS Denver, Inc. was fined $6.2 million for hiring at least 87 unauthorized workers. When contacted by phone, they refused to make anyone available for comment.


PSC Commercial Cleaning Services, Inc. was fined $1.6 million for employing at least 12 unauthorized workers, according to ICE. CPR News could not find a business under that name registered in Colorado. Calls to companies with similar sounding names were not returned or disconnected numbers.


Green Management Denver: fined $270,195 for employing 44 unauthorized employees. A company matching that name was registered to do business in Colorado in 2014, but is listed as delinquent since 2022, and no phone number or contact information could be located.”

Colorado janitorial companies fined by ICE for hiring at least 143 unauthorized workers

Three janitorial companies were hit with more than $8 million in proposed fines from federal immigration authorities for employing at least 143 unauthorized workers.

www.cpr.org

ICE leveling fines is just corruption.
Why should ICE be able to charge money for hiring people to do work that harms no one.
ICE clearly is the problem, is incompatible with a republic, and has to be done away with.

 

[Rigby5]

This should have been enforced long ago!

"Business owners who knowingly hire undocumented workers face up to 10 years in prison and $250,000 in fines."

Since laws can only be legal when they defend the rights of others, clearly immigration laws are inherently illegal.
Its not like we are not all immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

 

[Rigby5]

If corporations are people...shouldn't they be put in prison if they have illegals working for them?

Because its not their responsibility to research the history of those they contract out with.
Paying people for work done is inherently legal, and it is ICE who is in violation of basic principles of a republic.

 

[Rigby5]

1.5 m plus a few if we include you , DeCrappy , bugger86 and Mucky Bum .
Other Un-Americans available .

Those south of the border actually are native Americans, and it is those in the US who are actually descendants of European invaders and are not native.

 

[Rigby5]

well you specifically YOU need to learn how to wipe your ass. lay off that illegal alien you hired to wipe your ass and do it yourself. it ain't that hard. it is not rocket science.

To compete against China, India, etc., we need more immigrants.
To pay off the huge national debt, we need more immigrants.
To prevent Social Security default, we need more immigrants.

The past success of the US has always been due to immigrants.

 

[Rigby5]

Democrats who hire and exploit illegal immigrants need the book thrown at them.

Know a democrat with an illegal immigrant housekeeper or land scaper? Report them.

Report slave masters!!!

Wrong.
Slavery is where you prevent them from earning a living, like what ICE does.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Those south of the border actually are native Americans, and it is those in the US who are actually descendants of European invaders and are not native.

WRONG


They are not native americans and are as much descendants of immigrants as the average white american

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Slavery is where you prevent them from earning a living, like what ICE does.

Wrong

Slavery is marxism

 

[Soupnazi630]

To compete against China, India, etc., we need more immigrants.
To pay off the huge national debt, we need more immigrants.
To prevent Social Security default, we need more immigrants.

The past success of the US has always been due to immigrants.

We do not need immigrants

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is against the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo to prevent natives from being able to work in the US.
In fact, it is obvious illegal discrimination to even consider the descendants of European invaders as being legal here at all, and even worse to try to block or deport the descendants of natives who actually do have the inherent right to be here.

There is absolutely no legal basis for being able to fine or arrest anyone for hiring anyone.
The ability to work is primary in the Declaration of Independence.
There can never be any basis for violating those basic rights.

wrong

It is against no treaty and they are not natives

We have every inherent right to be here and control the border

The DOI makes no mention of the right to work

 

[dblack]

So, for those of you supporting this - should employers be punish for hiring any criminals? Or just illegal immigrants?