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So protesting racism justifies murder? You aren't sounding any better.Blame then for what exactly?
A violent racist March where one of them killed a person while trying to kill many others?
Did that happen before or after they were confronted and attacked by the left? Sometimes the best course of action is taking no action at all, if the left had stayed home there would have been no violence, and if there was there would have been no question who was responsible.
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Violent confrontation can cause people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do, the left came armored and armed, they weren't there to just protest. That is fact, you can deny it all you want, it won't change reality.
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So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
When was the trial?So protesting racism justifies murder? You aren't sounding any better.Blame then for what exactly?
A violent racist March where one of them killed a person while trying to kill many others?
Did that happen before or after they were confronted and attacked by the left? Sometimes the best course of action is taking no action at all, if the left had stayed home there would have been no violence, and if there was there would have been no question who was responsible.
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Violent confrontation can cause people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do, the left came armored and armed, they weren't there to just protest. That is fact, you can deny it all you want, it won't change reality.
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So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
So protesting racism justifies murder? You aren't sounding any better.A violent racist March where one of them killed a person while trying to kill many others?
Did that happen before or after they were confronted and attacked by the left? Sometimes the best course of action is taking no action at all, if the left had stayed home there would have been no violence, and if there was there would have been no question who was responsible.
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Violent confrontation can cause people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do, the left came armored and armed, they weren't there to just protest. That is fact, you can deny it all you want, it won't change reality.
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So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Wow, well written and a similar opinion that many of us have. Please click the link and click again, Mr. Goldberg deserves some hits on this article as it is so accurate and something far too many; particularly on the left, are not confronting.
To hell with Communists and supremists. Neither of them are good for America or liberty. History has shown this as this article explains.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/17/fighting-nazis-doesnt-make-antifa-the-good-guys/
Fighting Nazis is a good thing, but fighting Nazis doesn’t necessarily make you or your cause good. By my lights this is simply an obvious fact.
The greatest Nazi-killer of the 20th century was Josef Stalin. He also killed millions of his own people and terrorized, oppressed, enslaved or brutalized tens of millions more.
Nazism was evil. Soviet Communism was evil. It’s fine to believe that Nazism was more evil than Communism. That doesn’t make Communism good.
Yet confusion on this point poisoned politics in America and abroad for generations.
Part of the problem is psychological. There’s a natural tendency to think that when people, or movements, hate each other, it must be because they’re opposites. This assumption overlooks the fact that many — indeed, most — of the great conflicts and hatreds in human history are derived from what Sigmund Freud called the “narcissism of minor differences.”
Most tribal hatreds are between very similar groups. The European wars of religion were between peoples who often shared the same language and culture but differed on the correct way to practice the Christian faith. The Sunni-Shia split in the Muslim world is the source of great animosity between very similar peoples.
The young Communists and fascists fighting for power in the streets of 1920s Germany had far more in common with each other than they had with decent liberals or conservatives, as we understand those terms today.
The second part of the problem wasn’t innocent confusion, but sinister propaganda. As Hitler solidified power and effectively outlawed the Communist Party of Germany, the Communist International abandoned its position that socialist and progressive groups that were disloyal to Moscow were “fascist” and instead encouraged Communists everywhere to build “popular fronts” against the common enemy of Nazism.
These alliances of convenience were a great propaganda victory for Communists around the world because they bolstered the myth that Communists were just members of the left coalition in the fight against Hitler, bigotry, fascism, etc.
This obscured the fact that whenever the Communists had a chance to seize power, they did. Often, the first people they killed, jailed or exiled were former allies. That’s what happened in Eastern Europe, Cuba and other places of Communist success.
This history is relevant today because of the depressingly idiotic argument about whether it’s OK to equate “antifa” — left-wing radicals — with the neo-Nazi and white supremacist rabble that recently descended on Charlottesville, Va. The president claims there were “very fine people” on both sides of the protest and that the “anti-fascist” radicals are equally blameworthy. He borrowed from Fox News’ Sean Hannity the bogus term “alt-left” to describe the antifa radicals.
The term is bogus because, unlike the alt-right, nobody calls themselves “the alt-left.” That’s too bad. One of the only nice things about the alt-right is that its leaders are honest about the fact that they want nothing to do with traditional American conservatism. Like the original Nazis, they seek to replace the traditional right with their racial hogwash.
The antifa crowd has a very similar agenda with regard to American liberalism. These goons and thugs oppose free speech, celebrate violence, despise dissent and have little use for anything else in the American political tradition. But many liberals, particularly in the media, are victims of the same kind of confusion that vexed so much of American liberalism in the 20th century. Because antifa suddenly has the (alt-)right enemies, they must be the good guys.
They’re not. And that’s why this debate is so toxically stupid. Fine, antifa isn’t as bad as the KKK. Who cares? Since when is being less bad than the Klan a major moral accomplishment?
In these tribal times, the impulse to support anyone who shares your enemies is powerful. But it’s a morally stunted reflex. This is America. You’re free to denounce totalitarians wherever you find them — even if they might hate the right people.
So protesting racism justifies murder? You aren't sounding any better.Did that happen before or after they were confronted and attacked by the left? Sometimes the best course of action is taking no action at all, if the left had stayed home there would have been no violence, and if there was there would have been no question who was responsible.
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Violent confrontation can cause people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do, the left came armored and armed, they weren't there to just protest. That is fact, you can deny it all you want, it won't change reality.
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So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Yes you are. You are saying the protestors were mean so mass murder is acceptable.
I'm not defending anyone. You however find it very important to take blame away from racist scum who killed a woman. That does not make you look good.So protesting racism justifies murder? You aren't sounding any better.
Violent confrontation can cause people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do, the left came armored and armed, they weren't there to just protest. That is fact, you can deny it all you want, it won't change reality.
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So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Yes you are. You are saying the protestors were mean so mass murder is acceptable.
I'm saying Anitfa came armed with clubs, bats, pepper spray and improvised flame throwers, they pushed a weak minded individual over the edge. Had they been absent from the event no violence would likely have occurred.
Here's another example of the people you are defending, they effectively canceled a long held parade with threats of violence, just because the county republicans were scheduled to have a spot in it.
Portland Rose Parade Cancelled Amid Violent Threats From Anti-Fa: "You've Seen How Much Power We Have... Police Can't Stop Us" | Zero Hedge
Is that really the America you want to live in?
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A small group of racists legally marching, exercising their constitutional rights to assemble and a free speech, to voice they're disgusting opinions and ideology is still far less dangerous to our democracy then the left has proven to be by admittedly engaging in violence in order to strip Americans of those Constitutional Rights.
This certainly does NOT make them 'the good guys'.
What we are seeing from the MINORITY Left is the militarization of and violent enforcement of political correctness by enemies of the state who are willing to and who have violated both Constitution and law in order to enforce both political correctness and their agenda.
The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
You need a conviction to know that? Seriously?
I don't think he has any liberty at this point.The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
You need a conviction to know that? Seriously?
DUE PROCESS. IF it was he, at this time, he retains the liberty to defend himself.
I don't think he has any liberty at this point.The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
You need a conviction to know that? Seriously?
DUE PROCESS. IF it was he, at this time, he retains the liberty to defend himself.
I'm not defending anyone. You however find it very important to take blame away from racist scum who killed a woman. That does not make you look good.Violent confrontation can cause people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do, the left came armored and armed, they weren't there to just protest. That is fact, you can deny it all you want, it won't change reality.
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So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Yes you are. You are saying the protestors were mean so mass murder is acceptable.
I'm saying Anitfa came armed with clubs, bats, pepper spray and improvised flame throwers, they pushed a weak minded individual over the edge. Had they been absent from the event no violence would likely have occurred.
Here's another example of the people you are defending, they effectively canceled a long held parade with threats of violence, just because the county republicans were scheduled to have a spot in it.
Portland Rose Parade Cancelled Amid Violent Threats From Anti-Fa: "You've Seen How Much Power We Have... Police Can't Stop Us" | Zero Hedge
Is that really the America you want to live in?
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Well, due process is not liberty. The only liberty interest he has is if he can make bail and if bail is even granted. The state court get's to tee him up for murder, and the feds can also tee him up for federal charges.I don't think he has any liberty at this point.The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
You need a conviction to know that? Seriously?
DUE PROCESS. IF it was he, at this time, he retains the liberty to defend himself.
He has the liberty of due process.
the LEFT forced the Klan to march in Charlotesville. It's SOOOOO UNFAIRI'm not defending anyone. You however find it very important to take blame away from racist scum who killed a woman. That does not make you look good.So again you are justifying a racist murdering a person and trying to kill many.
No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Yes you are. You are saying the protestors were mean so mass murder is acceptable.
I'm saying Anitfa came armed with clubs, bats, pepper spray and improvised flame throwers, they pushed a weak minded individual over the edge. Had they been absent from the event no violence would likely have occurred.
Here's another example of the people you are defending, they effectively canceled a long held parade with threats of violence, just because the county republicans were scheduled to have a spot in it.
Portland Rose Parade Cancelled Amid Violent Threats From Anti-Fa: "You've Seen How Much Power We Have... Police Can't Stop Us" | Zero Hedge
Is that really the America you want to live in?
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I don't care how you think I look, the guy that killed the woman will get what he deserves, unfortunately the leftist assholes that caused the violence will likely walk away free, when they share responsibility. Your unwillingness to admit that fact just helps embolden them the next time they chose to deny other Americans their rights.
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I completely agree however the fact Still Remains he never had either the 'liberty' or the right to drive into a crowd of people.The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
You need a conviction to know that? Seriously?
DUE PROCESS. IF it was he, at this time, he retains the liberty to defend himself.
the LEFT forced the Klan to march in Charlotesville. It's SOOOOO UNFAIRI'm not defending anyone. You however find it very important to take blame away from racist scum who killed a woman. That does not make you look good.No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Yes you are. You are saying the protestors were mean so mass murder is acceptable.
I'm saying Anitfa came armed with clubs, bats, pepper spray and improvised flame throwers, they pushed a weak minded individual over the edge. Had they been absent from the event no violence would likely have occurred.
Here's another example of the people you are defending, they effectively canceled a long held parade with threats of violence, just because the county republicans were scheduled to have a spot in it.
Portland Rose Parade Cancelled Amid Violent Threats From Anti-Fa: "You've Seen How Much Power We Have... Police Can't Stop Us" | Zero Hedge
Is that really the America you want to live in?
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I don't care how you think I look, the guy that killed the woman will get what he deserves, unfortunately the leftist assholes that caused the violence will likely walk away free, when they share responsibility. Your unwillingness to admit that fact just helps embolden them the next time they chose to deny other Americans their rights.
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I completely agree however the fact Still Remains he never had either the 'liberty' or the right to drive into a crowd of people.The KKK and NeoNazis have the liberty to march(.) But if convicted, we will know James Alex Fields had no liberty to drive a vehicle into humans(.)
You need a conviction to know that? Seriously?
DUE PROCESS. IF it was he, at this time, he retains the liberty to defend himself.
the LEFT forced the Klan to march in Charlotesville. It's SOOOOO UNFAIRI'm not defending anyone. You however find it very important to take blame away from racist scum who killed a woman. That does not make you look good.No I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out cause and effect. The left showed up to prevent the supremacists from exercising constitutionally protected rights. I don't agree with their message, but they have every right to say their peace unmolested. You are the one trying to excuse the un-American actions of the left and trying to absolve them of any responsibility for the violence that ensued. This is just the latest example of the left thinking they can violently impose their view on others. Antifa and the nazis are different sides of the same coin.
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Yes you are. You are saying the protestors were mean so mass murder is acceptable.
I'm saying Anitfa came armed with clubs, bats, pepper spray and improvised flame throwers, they pushed a weak minded individual over the edge. Had they been absent from the event no violence would likely have occurred.
Here's another example of the people you are defending, they effectively canceled a long held parade with threats of violence, just because the county republicans were scheduled to have a spot in it.
Portland Rose Parade Cancelled Amid Violent Threats From Anti-Fa: "You've Seen How Much Power We Have... Police Can't Stop Us" | Zero Hedge
Is that really the America you want to live in?
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I don't care how you think I look, the guy that killed the woman will get what he deserves, unfortunately the leftist assholes that caused the violence will likely walk away free, when they share responsibility. Your unwillingness to admit that fact just helps embolden them the next time they chose to deny other Americans their rights.
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