Ferguson: Decision thread; Chaos is about to set loose

[Carla_Danger]

That's what a person tried by a mob and sentenced to death would do.

He may not even have to stand trial.

 

[Carla_Danger]

So, they're all racist.

Surely you don't deny that racism is rampant in those parts.

Because you say so? Surely you can develop a better criteria or any criteria for evaluation.

No, not because I say so. Because of stories that have come out since the Brown shooting, like the black man beaten while in handcuffs, then fined for bleeding on their uniforms. The man was a 52 yr old welder brought in on bogus charges.

After you hear repeated stories, with the same theme, you begin to put the puzzle together...that is, unless you're in denial.

For an incident that happened in 2009. A change of police chiefs brought a change in how complaints are handled in 2010. Or does that not work with your narrative?

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

 

[Katzndogz]

When Danielle Watts was arrested for having sexual intercourse in public she made allegations of misconduct against the police officer. Her allegations were quickly proved to be false because of the dash cam and body cam. An internal affairs investigation recommended disciplinary action for filming the woman.

 

[Jackson]

I think the Grand Jury is done. The prosecutor and Police Chief are just waiting for a good time to release the information. Think it will come Thursday morning when people have Thanksgiving plans.

 

[Katzndogz]

Because you say so? Surely you can develop a better criteria or any criteria for evaluation.

No, not because I say so. Because of stories that have come out since the Brown shooting, like the black man beaten while in handcuffs, then fined for bleeding on their uniforms. The man was a 52 yr old welder brought in on bogus charges.

After you hear repeated stories, with the same theme, you begin to put the puzzle together...that is, unless you're in denial.

For an incident that happened in 2009. A change of police chiefs brought a change in how complaints are handled in 2010. Or does that not work with your narrative?

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

 

[Katzndogz]

I think the Grand Jury is done. The prosecutor and Police Chief are just waiting for a good time to release the information. Think it will come Thursday morning when people have Thanksgiving plans.

I heard earlier today that the police has been started to put up roadblocks.

 

[Carla_Danger]

No, not because I say so. Because of stories that have come out since the Brown shooting, like the black man beaten while in handcuffs, then fined for bleeding on their uniforms. The man was a 52 yr old welder brought in on bogus charges.

After you hear repeated stories, with the same theme, you begin to put the puzzle together...that is, unless you're in denial.

For an incident that happened in 2009. A change of police chiefs brought a change in how complaints are handled in 2010. Or does that not work with your narrative?

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

 

[Disir]

Fact: The Ferguson police department contradicted themselves on several occasions after the shooting.
Try again.
Fact: Darren Wilson has been in hiding since the incident, whereas most police who act in accordance with the law don't have to hide.
Speculation. Not wanting to be involved in a three ring circus while being investigated and not dealing with death threats would indicate that he is making the right move and does not indicate guilt.
Fact: Leaks have been coming out from the grand jury for the last month, when all proceedings are supposed to be in complete secrecy.
You have a hacker. Try again.
Investigation finds no Ferguson grand jury leak but finds a apos hack apos - LA Times
Fact: Multiple witnesses immediately after the shooting had corroborating testimony, which was also confirmed by the construction workers who were video-taped without their knowledge, all saying Brown had his hands up.
No. Try again. How up was up?

Fact: You don't know the facts.
You don't have any facts but get back to me when you do.

 

[skookerasbil]

The whole force should leave town and let the mofu's burn it down. They can freeze their balls off for a few days and then go back home.............let them live off the land for a few months ftw.

 

[Katzndogz]

For an incident that happened in 2009. A change of police chiefs brought a change in how complaints are handled in 2010. Or does that not work with your narrative?

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

Which also has nothing to do with the thug's death.

 

[Disir]

For an incident that happened in 2009. A change of police chiefs brought a change in how complaints are handled in 2010. Or does that not work with your narrative?

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

Obviously they made changes in 2010 and you have a case on appeal. You have nothing.

 

[Carla_Danger]

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

Obviously they made changes in 2010 and you have a case on appeal. You have nothing.

You keep telling yourself that.

 

[Publius1787]

Im seeing that a decision is imminent. Either today or Monday? Id be shocked if they do it near Thanksgiving. But maybe thats the strategy. Do it Wednsday afternoon and hope the family events of thanksgiving trumps the desire of the hooligans to riot and run rampant.

If he IS indicted. ..will cops retaliate by just not doing shit and letting criminals run wild for months? I would. If defending yourself vs a thug means being charged for the sake of political and racial correctness. ..fuck it. I wouldnt do shit.

If he is not charged...how bad will the animalistic hooligans react? LA riot level? Katrina style lawlessness? Or just some typical Seattle style protests?

Place your bets here Will There be Riots After the Furgason Grand Jury fails to Indict Wilson US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[HenryBHough]

Think of it as a prototype for America when enough folks figure out the whole Emperor thing.

 

[Katzndogz]

We don’t apply collective punishment in this country. If we did we could prosecute black people based on the fact that all his neighbors are criminals.

 

[Disir]

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

Obviously they made changes in 2010 and you have a case on appeal. You have nothing.

You keep telling yourself that.

The businesses in Ferguson have boarded up their windows. The businesses and the schools had asked for a 48 hour notice prior to the decision so that they could prepare. It was denied. You have a business owner that begged the protestors not to torch her shop. Some of the schools shut down Thursday/Friday so that the kids wouldn't be in danger. The citizens of Ferguson are frightened.

Your inability to analyze information is harming others. I hope you can live with that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Ferguson: Decision thread; Chaos is about to set loose"

Nonsense.

The only thing 'set loose' is the fear-mongering and demagoguery by most on the right.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

Obviously they made changes in 2010 and you have a case on appeal. You have nothing.

You keep telling yourself that.

The businesses in Ferguson have boarded up their windows. The businesses and the schools had asked for a 48 hour notice prior to the decision so that they could prepare. It was denied. You have a business owner that begged the protestors not to torch her shop. Some of the schools shut down Thursday/Friday so that the kids wouldn't be in danger. The citizens of Ferguson are frightened.

Your inability to analyze information is harming others. I hope you can live with that.

Ferguson Protesters Guard Stores From Looters

 

[Disir]

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Obviously they have a racial discrimination problem.

Obviously they made changes in 2010 and you have a case on appeal. You have nothing.

You keep telling yourself that.

The businesses in Ferguson have boarded up their windows. The businesses and the schools had asked for a 48 hour notice prior to the decision so that they could prepare. It was denied. You have a business owner that begged the protestors not to torch her shop. Some of the schools shut down Thursday/Friday so that the kids wouldn't be in danger. The citizens of Ferguson are frightened.

Your inability to analyze information is harming others. I hope you can live with that.

Ferguson Protesters Guard Stores From Looters

On the streets, the tension is not always visible, but it can be heard in the voices of those who live and work in this small city of 22,000.

Natatlie DuBose, owner of Natalie Cakes and More in Ferguson, is seeing fewer customers in anticipation of the grand jury decision.

"If I can't open my doors every morning, I can't feed my kids in the evening," the mother of two tells CNN. She hopes her store will not become a target during protests.

"Just don't burn my shop down, don't destroy it."

In the days after Wilson, a white Ferguson police officer, shot and killed Brown, who was black, protesters filled the streets. Some clashes with police turned violent. Stores were looted and vandalized.
Ferguson waits No decision this weekend - CNN.com

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No, not because I say so. Because of stories that have come out since the Brown shooting, like the black man beaten while in handcuffs, then fined for bleeding on their uniforms. The man was a 52 yr old welder brought in on bogus charges.

After you hear repeated stories, with the same theme, you begin to put the puzzle together...that is, unless you're in denial.

For an incident that happened in 2009. A change of police chiefs brought a change in how complaints are handled in 2010. Or does that not work with your narrative?

That's not enough.

That case is being appealed with a hearing in December. So, really, you don't have shit.

Washington Post:

In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson’s have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally-ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers’ clothes.

One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs’ lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people’s civil rights.

Totally meaningless and has no bearing on the Brown thug's righteous shooting.

Guilty until proven innocent, the contempt for the rule of law exhibited by most on the right.