Female secret service agents.... is this a good match?

[justoffal]

Some may call this misogyny I call it simply observing the obvious. There are some venues where men are just more appropriate than women. This is no comment on the abilities of women particularly.... However this video more or less speaks for itself.

 

[Yarddog]

If a woman is sharp enough to make the cut, great. But to demand a 30% number is just stupid. It lends itself to incompetant people being passed through to reach the quota.

 

[justoffal]

If a woman is sharp enough to make the cut, great. But to demand a 30% number is just stupid. It lends itself to incompetant people being passed through to reach the quota.

Did you see that video? That was not encouraging at all.

 

[wamose]

Some may call this misogyny I call it simply observing the obvious. There are some venues where men are just more appropriate than women. This is no comment on the abilities of women particularly.... However this video more or less speaks for itself.

I noticed that too. And on top of their indecisive confusion, there was one who surrounded the President that was so short that a shooter would have had a full head shot. They need to stop with this idiotic DEI bullshit.

 

[1srelluc]

Well the thicc ones make for a great bullet sponge.

 

[Concerned American]

Some may call this misogyny I call it simply observing the obvious. There are some venues where men are just more appropriate than women. This is no comment on the abilities of women particularly.... However this video more or less speaks for itself.

Seems the detail should be limited to people who are at least as tall as those they are trying to shield.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

Some may call this misogyny I call it simply observing the obvious. There are some venues where men are just more appropriate than women. This is no comment on the abilities of women particularly.... However this video more or less speaks for itself.

If you think you can do better than the women on the Secret Service team, go for it! They're hiring.

Training requirements:

Fitness standards: TLE

Fitness Standards Physical Fitness Evaluation The below training fitness standards are different from the Applicant Physical Abilities Test (APAT) fitness standards.

www.secretservice.gov

 

[justoffal]

If you think you can do better than the women on the Secret Service team, go for it! They're hiring.

Training requirements:

Fitness standards: TLE

Fitness Standards Physical Fitness Evaluation The below training fitness standards are different from the Applicant Physical Abilities Test (APAT) fitness standards.

www.secretservice.gov

You completely miss the point. I don't need to do better. They are the ones that need to do better.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

You completely miss the point.

No, I didn't. You are clearly trying to say that the female secret service members shown on the videos weren't "good enough". Did you think the same thing of the male secret service members that were shown, some of them surrounding Trump as well? What makes one good enough and the other not?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Discussion about this is a couple other threads.
It is irresponsible.
Trump is 6'3" tall, he is not a small target.
The inner-most circle of protection officers, a significant part of their job is to use their own bodies to cover the target.
A 5' 6" female doesn't cut it for that application.
Did you also notice that one of the females is overweight, and looked to be in her 50s. There are several close up photos of her - she looks absolutely terrified and edgy.
All of the others looked intense and alert.
What is this woman doing there??? SHE is one of the elite inner-circle?????

 

[justoffal]

No, I didn't. You are clearly trying to say that the female secret service members shown on the videos weren't "good enough". Did you think the same thing of the male secret service members that were shown, some of them surrounding Trump as well? What makes one good enough and the other not?

You can see in the video that they are plainly lost, Confused and directionless. This is more of a comment on the DEI policy than it is on women. Having said that equality is not available in everything nor should it be.

 

[theHawk]

If you think you can do better than the women on the Secret Service team, go for it! They're hiring.

Training requirements:

Fitness standards: TLE

Fitness Standards Physical Fitness Evaluation The below training fitness standards are different from the Applicant Physical Abilities Test (APAT) fitness standards.

www.secretservice.gov

Why bother? If they are only going to do diversity hires then they won’t select capable men.

 

[Foxfyre]

Some may call this misogyny I call it simply observing the obvious. There are some venues where men are just more appropriate than women. This is no comment on the abilities of women particularly.... However this video more or less speaks for itself.

Maybe it is misogyny to think as I do--I don't know if those lady Secret Service personnel were actually doing their jobs or not--can't really tell from that video clip--but because they are going to generally be smaller and less 'intimidating' than the guys, I suspect the vast majority of people don't take them as seriously nor would they be as good in a situation that requires bulk and strength. If I have a security detail, I want it to be big, mean looking guys who are heavily armed and obviously trained to use the weapons.

I am all for women's rights, opportunity, equal treatment under the law and all that, but I am not one who thinks most women are going to be as good as guys at some jobs. Any more than most guys are not going to be as good as women at some jobs. That is simply a biological fact.

 

[Donald H]

Did you see that video? That was not encouraging at all.

To your point:
This is the first solid evidence of government complicity in the crime. And it's the question that is going to outlive all the rest of shit that Trump can and will use to his advantage.

One of my previous threads already raised the main issue.

What can we add for a Trump talking point? How about: Was Biden aware of the inadequate security?

 

[mamooth]

This is the first solid evidence of government complicity in the crime

You're a loony.

The shooter being a Republican gun nut has removed what little sanity the Trump cultists had left.

 

[Concerned American]

I am all for women's rights, opportunity, equal treatment under the law and all that, but I am not one who thinks most women are going to be as good as guys at some jobs. Any more than most guys are not going to be as good as women at some jobs. That is simply a biological fact.

Agreed. I believe there are women that are as capable as men in pretty much any occupation, but as you wouldn't hire a 300 lb hulk to be, say, a tunnel rat in Vietnam--a petite 5'-0" , 98 pounder shouldn't be thought of as a suitable shield for someone 6'-3 and pushing 300 lbs. Male or female

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

DEI Policy: Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Accessibility Program.

Women are 24% of the SS workforce, which includes those at desk jobs and technical jobs: Women at the Secret Service

 

[braalian]

If you think you can do better than the women on the Secret Service team, go for it! They're hiring.

Training requirements:

Fitness standards: TLE

Fitness Standards Physical Fitness Evaluation The below training fitness standards are different from the Applicant Physical Abilities Test (APAT) fitness standards.

www.secretservice.gov

And if you click on that link to the fitness standards, you will see that they have two separate training requirements for number of push-ups, chin-ups etc for men and women

That’s the problem

 

[iamwhatiseem]

DEI Policy: Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Accessibility Program.

Women are 24% of the SS workforce, which includes those at desk jobs and technical jobs: Women at the Secret Service

A 5' 6" man does not belong in the inner circle to protect a 6' 3" 280 lb. man.
When the officers were using their bodies as shield, the one female left a very large gaping hole of protection of the Presidents head and upper body. She also clearly struggled, and almost lost her footing while assisting him down the stairs which could have cost the entire detail to fall on top of him on those same stairs.

 

[Foxfyre]

Agreed. I believe there are women that are as capable as men in pretty much any occupation, but as you wouldn't hire a 300 lb hulk to be, say, a tunnel rat in Vietnam--a petite 5'-0" , 98 pounder shouldn't be thought of as a suitable shield for someone 6'-3 and pushing 300 lbs. Male or female

However, I do think there are roles that female agents are not only appropriate but necessary such as those assigned to women and can go with them into women's locker rooms, public restrooms and such.